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Ganthos
Posted on Monday, May 18, 2015 - 08:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Anyone try to put duel fonts on? Any draw back? Or bad idea?
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Mhlunsford
Posted on Monday, May 18, 2015 - 09:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

they made some on X1 - they were so good at stopping the front that folks were going over the top. I understand it was recalled. I saw a X1 for sale that way.

Rex did the ZTL on a M2, that might be better.
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Ganthos
Posted on Monday, May 18, 2015 - 09:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My m2 front rim has the screw holes for a rotor on the left side and the forks have the mounting tabs for a caliper in the left side too. Maybe x1 forks?
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Screamer
Posted on Tuesday, May 19, 2015 - 12:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

A dual disc kit (41820-94Y) was offered only as an aceesory kit and only for PM systems.
The dual disc kits added unstrung weight and had little functional advantage.over the single disc.

There wasn't a recall, but there were some occasional setup issues impacting performance that led to a few refunds.
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Cupcake_mike
Posted on Tuesday, May 19, 2015 - 09:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

All m2s came with the mount on the left fork leg and the bolt holes on the left side of the front wheel

x1 forks are USDs
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Hootowl
Posted on Tuesday, May 19, 2015 - 02:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Those dual brake left side caliper mounts are very rare. Only a few were made. If you have to have dual disk brakes, you've probably better off replacing the front end with something from a bike that came stock with two front brakes. Plenty of totaled 600s in the scrap heap, lots of times just for having road rash on the expensive plastics.
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Screamer
Posted on Tuesday, May 19, 2015 - 02:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Correcting the auto-correct... unsprung weight - not "unstrung" weight.
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Cupcake_mike
Posted on Wednesday, May 20, 2015 - 08:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hootowl, what do you mean?

A simple google image search for "m2 cyclone" shows me that every bike with a left side view has the mounts????



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Hootowl
Posted on Wednesday, May 20, 2015 - 09:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mike, the mount I'm referring to is the one that the caliper mounts to, which in turn mounts to the fork, thereby allowing attachment of another OEM brake caliper. Hen's teeth.
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Hootowl
Posted on Wednesday, May 20, 2015 - 11:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

See here...

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/cgibin/discus/show .cgi?tpc=47623&post=2121810#POST2121810
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Hootowl
Posted on Wednesday, May 20, 2015 - 11:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

In that thread you'll find a link to an aftermarket kit sold by board sponsor twincycles. The kit doesn't use the stock or OEM Nissin caliper on either side though, so the adapter brackets are likely not compatible with the 6 pot calipers. But for $1200 Euros, you can put dual disk brakes on your M2.
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Cupcake_mike
Posted on Wednesday, May 20, 2015 - 07:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I see what you mean now...I dont know why somebody couldn't just make one...I offered, at one time, to do some up, I have a plasma cutter, but no one (understandably) had one that I could borrow to make a template....
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Screamer
Posted on Wednesday, May 20, 2015 - 09:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The dual PM kit had a left hand caliper that was a mirror image of the right hand caliper. There wasn't really a separate bracket but the mount was part of the caliper - and the caliper bolts directly to the lower left leg.
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Hootowl
Posted on Thursday, May 21, 2015 - 09:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'd love to see a photo of that. All the ones I've seen use a bracket.
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Brother_in_buells
Posted on Thursday, May 21, 2015 - 06:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There was a thread a couple years back with someone making caliper brackets for himself.
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Screamer
Posted on Thursday, May 21, 2015 - 09:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hootowl - sent you a PM.
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Hootowl
Posted on Friday, May 22, 2015 - 01:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Got it and responded, but haven't received the pics, if you've sent them. My spam filter is pretty aggressive. Have you sent them?
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Screamer
Posted on Friday, May 22, 2015 - 06:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hootowl,
I've checked my inbox, trash and junk mail - can't locate a response, could you send it again?
Thanks
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Hootowl
Posted on Friday, May 22, 2015 - 09:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yeah, my fault. I no read good. Replied to you this time : )
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Screamer
Posted on Friday, May 22, 2015 - 11:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hootowl,
No problem. I sent the photos - let me know if they made it.
Thanks - R
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Phelan
Posted on Saturday, May 23, 2015 - 02:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dan (BuellieDan) has the dual PM calipers and rotors on his '96 S2T. Unfortunately this is the best photo I can find at the moment. Can't see the caliper but you can see the mirror image disc.

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Outdoors
Posted on Saturday, May 23, 2015 - 08:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have an aftermarket dual disk set on my M2 that I bought from a Buell/HD dealer when they were selling off parts after the first Buell shut down. It is a Brembo set up with 4 pot calipers so not as strong as the factory Buell dual kit but I really like it. It offers great stopping power and it is really smooth. If I was totally honest though, the main reason I like it is probably looks.
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Hootowl
Posted on Saturday, May 23, 2015 - 05:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here are the photos Screamer sent to me. He's having trouble posting pics lately.


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I have never seen a left side caliper like this, and I've been Buelling for 17 years. (and drooling over a Red Snap S1 for a few years longer than that.) Had no idea such a thing existed. All the ones I've seen are a Buell branded right, and a Nissan branded left, with an adapter bracket. And of course, the 4 pot complete replacement kit. Thanks Screamer!

"Replied to you this time". Seems like in the past all I had to do was hit reply to a PM, and it went to the person who sent the PM (the "reply to" address was the person's real address). Now it goes to badweb. Or maybe I've lost my mind.
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Screamer
Posted on Saturday, May 23, 2015 - 07:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hootowl, thanks for posting the photos - I appreciate it.
R
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Mmcustoms
Posted on Saturday, May 23, 2015 - 07:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have dual pm 6 pot calipers on my 2002 m2 I need a bigger master to match them I have a19mm shindy master cylinder now and it's not enough it stops the bike no problem but I expected a lot more stopping power
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Hootowl
Posted on Saturday, May 23, 2015 - 10:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

And of course I meant Nissin, not Nissan. Pretty I got autocorrected.
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Rex
Posted on Tuesday, May 26, 2015 - 01:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



Braking dual perimeter brakes...
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Rick_a
Posted on Tuesday, May 26, 2015 - 07:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The single disk overheats and glazes over easily in hard use. The life of rotors and pads is not good. Glazed pads and rotors contribute to inconsistent performance, brake noise, and a "wooden" lever feel.

The duals 340's never will.

The positives are a better, more progressive feel at the lever.

Quadruple the mileage of rotors and pads.

The downside is more weight and poor brake performance and feel in wet conditions.

They have every bit the power, of say, a Brembo monoblock set up, just with a little less feel at the lever.

I ran one disk backwards with an arrow so I'd know which is which. A L/R disk is still available from EBC.

(Message edited by Rick_A on May 26, 2015)
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Buellcatiman
Posted on Tuesday, May 26, 2015 - 03:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This is a replacement to the stock set up on my 2000 M2. Twin Brembo disks and calipers. Forks and wheel are Ducati ST2 ( the wheel is almost identical to the Buell ) I fitted a Brembo m/cylinder and ran over fender steel line. I had the calipers rebuilt with new pistons. All sourced off ebay. I used existing trees by having them milled out for the USD forks. Just needed a new 25mm axle spacer. Braking is superb.
left side
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Steveray
Posted on Wednesday, May 27, 2015 - 06:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The Buell Dual Disc Kit was part #Z0800.8.(per the instruction sheets) I have that setup on a 95 S2 and the original owner paid $989.95 plus tax in 1996. The reciept says that the kit was part #41820-94Y. It looks like the install was by the owner or others and not included in that price. It is nice enough looking but Buellcatiman's setup is definately sexier.
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