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Buellrobot
Posted on Monday, May 25, 2015 - 12:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've been looking into finding/buying an 1125 and know there were some things that EBR provided support for (stator improvment, etc). Can all the obvious/known issues still be readily worked out on an unimproved 1125, without EBR?

What are the most likely points of failure for an 1125 and can a person expect to reasonably work around them in the next 5-15 years without EBR?
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Stirz007
Posted on Monday, May 25, 2015 - 02:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

A low-mileage, maintained 1125 should provide dependable service for a number of years. Stator is non-issue for '08 model. For '09-10 models, stator upgrades are available. Expendables: brake pads, wheel bearings, filters, plugs, etc. are available from other (non HD/EBR) vendors.

Go-fast goodies like race ECU, brake rotors, GP shifters, chain drives will/are becoming scarce. The ultimate fate of EBR hasn't been resolved so that inventory may be available at some point.

I'd say for the next 5 years you're probably good ... 15 years? - hard to say with any bike.
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Froggy
Posted on Monday, May 25, 2015 - 02:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There are 3rd parties other than EBR that provided fixes for the stator and clutch slave issues.

There are also other 3rd party options for race ECMs, brake rotors, GP shifters, and chain drives, so those I can't see being an issue in the long term either.

Things look great for the next 5 years at least, but yea 15 can questionable even for something as widely produced as a KLR650. We won't know what it is like till we get there.
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Buellrobot
Posted on Monday, May 25, 2015 - 04:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks for weighing in – that's really helpful.

If something goes wrong in the transmission or top end, what's the situation like today? Is it basically donor engines or can new rotax parts for the engine still be readily found from dealers or other sources?
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Rogue_biker
Posted on Monday, May 25, 2015 - 05:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well if you were to buy a 2006 Honda RC51, you wouldn't be able to find internal engine parts that easily either.

If you were to try to find parts for a 2001 Suzuki Bandit 1200, it's not that easy either.

OTOH, if you were to look for parts for a 2001 Suzuki Hayabusa, you won't have problems finding parts. That's all because the Hayabusa sold in large numbers (10k units a year) during its reign of domination. It really all depends on the popularity of the bike, and less to do with who made it. I think EBR will eventually find an investor. But I'm optimistic.

Another point to consider is this. The 1125R were made in 2008-2010. There were way more 2008 and 2009 models. These bikes all have a "lifespan" in the market. Right now they're approaching their 7th/8th year. It's still possible to find relatively low mileage examples. When I say "low mileage" I mean overall condition that is the bike is NOT beat to crap! As time passes, the chances of finding one in that condition AND running right will dwindle. Now is the best time to find them. 5 years down the road, you will be lucky to find one in running order. Sadly, most bike owners beat their bikes. And many more neglect their bikes. Finally, a lot of them spend time sitting outside in the sun, wind, and rain. Those factors conspire to kill bikes fast. I mean, you may find one with low miles but isn't running right or has been badly weathered, or all of the above.
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Nikoff90
Posted on Monday, May 25, 2015 - 08:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.visordown.com/motorcycle-news--general- news/suzuki-launches-vintage-parts-programme/24208 .html
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Squish
Posted on Tuesday, May 26, 2015 - 01:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It is good that Suzuki UK did this; they were known for being a relatively poor at having a supply of parts for their vintage bikes. Relative to Honda and Kawasaki. Honda was one of the best - but even Honda has started to go down-hill the more time marches on following the death of Soichiro Honda.
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