| Author | Message | ||
     Ron_luning |
Made you look! If it comes to it, post your local prices here. | ||
| Froggy |
....................../´¯/) ....................,/¯../ .................../..../ ............./´¯/'...'/´¯¯`·¸ ........../'/.../..../......./¨¯\ ........('(...´...´.... ¯~/'...') .........\.................'...../ ..........''...\.......... _.·´ ............\..............( ..............\.............\... Edit- In all seriousness, I guess it is now or never for me to buy a blue SX.  (Message edited by froggy on April 16, 2015) | ||
| Crusty |
I really wish I had the cash to buy a red SX. The demo I rode last September was as sweet a bike as I've ever ridden. | ||
| Hughlysses |
Guess what? The discounts have started. ~$12.5k at a dealer in Virginia: http://www.wherethepoweris.com/s/search/inventory/ brand/Erik%20Buell%20Racing/availability/In%20Stoc k/class/Motorcycles/type/Street%20Bikes?utm_source =EBR%20CLEARANCE&utm_campaign=EBR&utm_medium=email (cross-post from ADVrider) | ||
| Electraglider_1997 |
Too much. Maybe $8K is even too much. | ||
| Hughlysses |
I have been thinking- if EBR completely folds and the bikes are offered for sale, how much would I be willing to pay? I agree, I'd never go $12.5k, but I might do $8k for an SX. | ||
| Dennis_c |
The bad part is how many parts could you get. What you had a bad ECM? | ||
| Hughlysses |
I'll bet it's the same hardware as the 1125. Somebody here could figure out how to make it work. | ||
| Buelliedan |
the ecms are not interchangeable. Even an 1190 RS uses a different ecm than a 1125. | ||
| Hughlysses |
Dan- I'm sure the programs are different, but I thought the actual hardware might be the same. | ||
| Rodrob |
Same. | ||
| Nik |
I was at the dealer a couple of weeks ago. All of the EBRs were in the back because they were in the process of not being a dealer any more. Sales guy said they couldn't move them next to the Ducatis. I've also had friends with super negative experiences with them. I wouldn't take Coleman's EBR sale prices to be anything other than Coleman's EBR sale prices. | ||
| Buelliedan |
yes they are the ecms share the same hardware but it would take a computer genius to make one say for an 1125 work on an 1190 RX. Not sure anybody wants to spend that many hours doing it for a very limited market. | ||
| Hughlysses |
I'll bet there are guys here who could copy the programming from a good 1190 ECM and burn it onto a spare 1125 ECM. Rather than having to do that, I'm hoping somebody will pick up the brand and at least offer support for a while or worst case, somebody will buy whatever spares are at the factory and sell them to keep the bikes running for a few years. | ||
| Rick_fears |
That's easy. Its just soft ware. Dump it and reboot it off a copied one that works correctly. I saw on FB someone posted where a dealer was dropping to 11k on an rx and sub 10k on an sx...... | ||
| Figorvonbuellingham |
Are they required to provide parts for the next seven years? (Message edited by figorvonbuellingham on April 18, 2015) | ||
| Court |
>>>Are they required to provide parts for the next seven years? No. There is no such law. Buell wasn't (other than the vague commitment HD made) and others are not. The "7 year law" is . . .to the best of my knowledge . . . urban legend. | ||
| Ratbuell |
...but...Court...the 7 year law is ON THE INTERNET. It must be fact!  | ||
| Dmhines |
I think they must supply parts for length of warranty. I think anyone of us that bought an EBR should be given a second bike to use for spare parts. | ||
| Sprintst |
The 7 year law, if it even exists, is pointless if a company folds You can't get blood from a turnip. You can't force a defunk company to honor warranties and parts when they are out of business. I had a legally mandated 1 year home warranty that the builder decided to avoid by declaring himself retired. Went to the insurance commission even, no luck. SOL It's also been floated that the EBR vendors that make many of the parts can continue supplying them. Not so fast. There are proprietary agreements, patents and many other factors involved that can prevent them from supplying the parts they've been making for EBR | ||
| 2008xb12scg |
FYI I posted a link to a clearance sale on the quick board. Wishing I wasn't broke | ||
| Court |
>>>You can't get blood from a turnip. You can't force a defunk company to honor warranties and parts when they are out of business. Actually you can. Ion some countries they bond the obligations. . . . company goes, the surety steps in and honors claims We do that in the construction business in America with a trip-party contract. | ||
| Court |
By the way . . . Joe Walsh goes "da funk" and a company goes defunct. | ||
| Ducley |
This is the email sent to me this evening: Hi, You are receiving this automated email because you have expressed interest in a 1190AX. As you probably already know, EBR has closed it's doors. As such we're are discounting the last few we have. One RX at 10999 + fees, one demo SX at 8999 plus fees, and new SX at 9999 plus fees. If you are interested in any of these machines or would like more information about them, please call me at one of the numbers below. Cheers, Harrison Cole Motorcycle Sales Associate, A&S Powersports, A&S BMW Motorcycles, A&S Ducati, A&S Triumph, Vespa Roseville, aspowersports.com 1125 Orlando Ave. Roseville, CA. 95661 Mobile: 916-531-4427 Phone: 916-726-7334 ext.157 Fax: 916-726-3563 Store hours: Tue.-Fri., 9-6, Sat., 9 - 5 Closed Sun., Mon. It's about the ride! (Message edited by Ducley on April 19, 2015) (Message edited by Ducley on April 19, 2015) | ||
| Doz |
Or, if any dealers want to trade. I've got two or three decent bikes to trade for an SX. | ||
| Mke |
I have the strangest feeling that more EBR bikes will be sold in the next two weeks than in the entire first quarter of 2015. Especially if the sub $10k price becomes the market rate. Kind of tragic really. } | ||
| Yankeerl |
Even a bankrupt company has to honor the warranty agreement from the point of sale. It will fall with the receiver of EBR, or back on them if no one bites. If not it's considered breach of warranty, and the plaintiff if due a refund (less any usage fees allowable). the question is how well they choose to honor it. | ||
| Buelliedan |
If there is no company then there is nobody to breach the warranty the way I see it. How could you get a refund if there is no company to pay it out? | ||
| Ak_addict |
What I think most are missing is that having a warranty legally makes you a "creditor" because you are owed something by EBR, I'm sure all original purchasers will be receiving legal paperwork notifying them of this shortly. Does this mean that your SOL seeing EBR filed for protection from creditors? All depends on how things go in receivership but if the company is sold together instead of being split up I would think honoring warranties would be a requirement for court approval of the sale. If the company assets are liquidated you might be looking at a check paying you for all or more likely a portion of what you are "owed". | ||
| Electraglider_1997 |
Hero owns/ed 49% of EBR. What would be their obligation since they have so much skin in the EBR game? Why wouldn't they continue making EBR bikes since they have deep pockets and want to be a seller in the USA? Maybe they would have zero interest in making the RX or SX but certainly they could if Erik gave them the go ahead. Possibly they make the AX in India with super cheap labor and keep the price down. A fella can dream can't he? | ||
| Hughlysses |
Why wouldn't they continue making EBR bikes since they have deep pockets and want to be a seller in the USA? I'm wondering if Hero didn't change their mind on coming to the US, or at least delay it a few years. That would explain why no Hero bikes have yet shown up despite their assurances and it would explain Erik's statement about expected funding for EBR falling through. | ||
| Figorvonbuellingham |
Too bad EBR isnt "too big to fail" and get a govt bailout. | ||
| Tempest766 |
Saw an article today on McNews (yahoo) about the auto manufacturers trying to get the feds to include automobile ECM programming as a violation of the digital millenium copyright law...thus making it illegal to tune your own bike. | ||
| Levi |
The SX for less than ten grand at A&S in Roseville has me in a deep existential crisis. I haven't even tried to discuss this with the Minister of Finance. I'm not sure she would understand. | ||
| Figorvonbuellingham |
Overthrow the minister of finance. | ||
| Hughlysses |
^  | ||
| Levi |
I could like do it in an hour. bam. Done. The Minister of Finance is so soft and lovely though. Actually the real issue is that we're buying our first home right now. Like right now. The banks don't seem to have much of a sense of humor with regard to toy buying I'm told. | ||
| Hughlysses |
Close on the house, THEN rebel against the Minister of Finance.  | ||
| Figorvonbuellingham |
I got $10,000 burning a hole in my pocket so I just waiting for a galactic black rx to pop up. | ||
| Ljm |
I bought the minister of finance her Rx before the sx came out. Remember what Richard Pryor said. | ||
| Natexlh1000 |
>>Remember what Richard Pryor said. "THE BED IS ON MY FOOT!"  | ||
| Sprintst |
$8995 selling price, not opening bid http://www.cycletrader.com/listing/2014-ERIK-BUELL -RACING-1190SX-113061462 | ||
| Figorvonbuellingham |
I already got a CR. I want an RX. (Message edited by figorvonbuellingham on April 24, 2015) | ||
| Ace117 |
I picked up a yellow RX #32 yesterday afternoon!!!!! I didnt get to ride it till today, I got home around midnight offloaded the bike and went to sleep. I put 55 miles on the clock commuting to and from work today, Man this bike is AWESOME!!!!! Iv kept it below 6k like the book says, I cant wait to finish the break in this motor is a beast!!!! There only one thing I do not like about it so far is the excessive slack on the throttle tube. I have quick throttles on my two other buells and the slack is messing with my emotions LOL, easy fix!!!. The dealer installed the reduced clutch kit while we took care of the paperwork, I like it 110% I didn't think it was that bad but I could see where it would get old fast in traffic. I picked up the bike for 11,608 before fees. I traded in my beyond beat and trashed 08 R6 and was able to get $2800 for that which paid for all the fees and a small portion of the bike. I ended up financing 10,077 when it was all said and done. Im in the process of selling my house and the wife finally gave me the green light to get my RX. I chose to finance to use my $ for moving expenses/ upgrades from AF1 racing LOL. EBR shut down or not I definitely do not and will not regret my purchase I love this bike!!! | ||
| Hughlysses |
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| Ffbuell1 |
Good for you Ace117,Congrats, I bought an 1190SX and have over 1000 miles on it and I love it ,NO regrets at all. | ||
| Mjohnson |
The red RX is still for sale in sacramento. I think they have 10,900 on it. | ||
| Xbpete |
10K Galactic Black ,,, $9,999 in Connecticut http://www.sharkcycle.com/product/2014-1190-rx-gra phite/ | ||
| Maddiemsu |
So what is the dealer cost for one of these? Anyone know? | ||
| Phelan |
Quite a bit more than $10K, I can say that. | ||
| Court |
It's a tough question to answer definitively. Few dealers ...... With all the side deals that are cut .....have the same base cost. | ||
| Maddiemsu |
My local dealer told me he would sell me one for his cost plus tax so I was trying figure out what that would be. He told me at this point he just wanted to get them moved out. Thanks gents. | ||
| Dennis_c |
I think at dealer cost would be greet for the dealer. Think the bike is almost 2 yrs. old. | ||
| Oddball |
I've heard similar, dealer cost plus $1. No actual price mentioned so i hadn't talked to them since. | ||
| Dave |
They are selling for $10-$11K. My opinion...one helluva value. DAve | ||
| Dennis_c |
Dave I think so to if you have a lot of money that you could afford to loose. Just think NO WARRANTY, PARTS??, SOME PARTS MAYBE NEVER, ALL MOST 2YRS. OLD. I wish I could afford to take that kind of a chance I test both bikes and I loved them I wish I had that kind of extra money. You could be out $11,000 to $13,000 with tax + all other fees from dealer. | ||
| 1_mike |
Dennis - While you are correct, in that there is no warranty, most parts are still available. And a couple that aren't currently available...are or will be again available. Sprockets are being worked on, the "Exhaust Kit" is possibly being worked on. So far, just front disc's are not currently available. May be others including front sprockets (currently still available) also not on the "make" list. Mike | ||
| Figorvonbuellingham |
I would think a well fitted machine shop could make the front disks. Find one and do a group by if it comes to that. Thats probably how most part are going to get made I future, if no one carries on with the bike. | ||
| Zac4mac |
The best part of this is Erik's penchant for sourcing parts already being made. For example, the new switchgear is the same as current Ducatis. Sprockets should be easy. I sure am digging my RS. she is too quick...  Z | ||
| Phelan |
If you need a front disk, use a Braking disk. The hardware you will have to source yourself, but it can't be that hard with the old stuff handy. | ||
| Ducbsa |
Braking wants $270. Luckily I got an EBR disk for my XB last summer and should get a few years out of it. Of course, $270 is much better than no disk at all! | ||
| Hughlysses |
You can get a Galfer Wave rotor from Amazon for ~$215. | ||
| Dmhines |
Maybe its a stupid question .. but why won't the 1125 Front disk rotor work on the 1190 ?? | ||
| Hughlysses |
^ I think it will, or at least that's been stated on Badweb before. If that's true, you can use the aftermarket Galfer Wave rotor, the stock 1125 rotor, and I think there's at least one other aftermarket choice. | ||
| Mackja |
1125r stock rotor will work on the 1190, the Galfer will not, have to use the stock 1125 mounting hardware, 1190 uses different mounting system. You can buy the stock 5mm rotor and the 1125 upgrade 6mm rotor and use them on the 1190. American Sportbike sells both. | ||
| Phelan |
You cannot use the 1125 hardware on an 1190. There are no pockets in the wheels for the springs. Your beat bet is to take the existing 1190 hardware to a hardware shop or similar and look for suitable replacements for each piece. Or heaven forbid, reuse the stock hardware. 3 of the 4 pieces of the EBR rotor hardware are still available but they have shot up to 3X their original retail. To buy 6 of each is $180, and you still lack 6 of the one piece not available. | ||
| Phelan |
To clarify, the full EBR hardware kit is long OOS. Marc found the PN's for each piece of the hardware, and Dan looked each up, with the above being our findings. This was as of a week ago. | ||
| Oddball |
GOE's arctic white sx just went for $8995 on ebay with one bidder the last minute or two of the auction. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-EBR-1190-SX-/3 21769587368?forcerrptr=true&hash=item4aeaf642a8&it em=321769587368 | ||
| Ourdee |
I was watching that without any funds available. | ||
| Roaldnelson |
Bellevue Motorsports near Seattle, Wa has a red SX and I don't think it's been prepped yet so zero miles. Talked to him today and he's willing to ship. | ||
| Flying_finn |
Seminole Harley in Sanford Florida still has a couple of RX models. Just spoke with them and they still want $16k. Sale guy said the owner would rather burn them than blow out at around $10k. I said "no thanks" | ||
| Hughlysses |
^ Well, if he holds on to them for 20 or 30 years they'll probably be as valuable as NOS Vincent Black Shadows, which would be pretty cool. | ||
| Oddball |
They had their bikes wrapped around the sales island in the middle of the floor when i was there back in april last year. They've sold the white SX and black RX. Yellow had some rust on the exhaust already. They will have them as showroom ornaments for a long long time. I guess they could make a youtube vid destroying them like people do to apple products every year. Might make a profit from ads shown to viewers. | ||
| Ourdee |
I really like the SX in white. |
