| Author | Message | ||
     Big_muddy |
I just viewed a video of the unveiling of the new XR1200X and it sure does have some Buellness to it... | ||
| Anonymous |
Not one iota in the opinion of ex-Buell engineers. Heavy, long, slow, no mass centralization, no torsional rigidity, heavy wheels, no innovation. Yawn. | ||
| Twintalon |
LOL, +1. They're only trying to cash in on the nameplate of the ONE decent bike they ever made. Even a Blast would make mincemeat of the XR in the twisties. The only thing the XR has in common with a Buell is attitude. I'll give them that: It certainly looks cool (as long as you don't know anything about Modern engineering). But to say it's a "Performance" bike is Laugh-Out-Loud funny. | ||
| Motofeast |
yeah, Buell is really a perfect choice to have . . i seen some of kawasaki bikes such similar; you can look on; Kawasaki is a well known name in the motorcycle industry. Kawasaki’s Vulcan 2000 Classic is a Cruiser. The bike has very attractive and eye-catching looks. Every part of it reflects its true classic and custom styling. The bike is not only great in style but is also magnificent in its power and performance. motorcycle helmets add to its safety. It produces high torque at low RPM. It is priced at US$ 13899. It has the same chassis and engine that is found in Vulcan 2000. It has V2 liquid-cooled 2053cc engine that delivers the torque of 191.19 nm@ 2800 RPM. In this classic edition many things are customized to give a classic touch to the bike like buckhorn handlebar, classic-styled headlight, plush passenger seat etc. Moreover, joe rocket jackets can also be chosen. A lot of high quality Chrome has been used on the bike. The exhaust system is packed with the real beauty and adds more to the bike with the cutting edge of exhaust pipes. A well designed speedometer that is calibrated in km/h and mile/h is mounted on the tank. It has got an advanced injection system. It has five speed transmissions for smoother riding experience. Its gross weight is 380.1 kg and it is available in Candy Diamond Red/ Metallic Titanium colors. bell helmets would be a great option. Engine and transmission: Displacement: 2053cc Engine type: V2, four-stroke, Liquid-cooled Torque: 191.19 nm@ 2800 RPM Compression ratio: 9.5:1 Bore x stroke: 103.0 x 123.2 mm Fuel system: Digital fuel injection, dual 46mm Keihin throttle bodies Ignition: Digital Advance TCBI Gearbox: 5-speed Dimensions: Seat height: 681 mm Height: 1,156 mm Length: 2,535 mm Width: 1,026 mm Ground clearance: 135 mm Wheelbase: 1,735 mm Brakes and wheels: Front suspension: 49 mm telescopic fork Rear suspension: Triangulated steel tube swingarm with direct-action single shock Tires: Front: 150/80-16 Rear: 200/60-16 Brakes: Front: Double disc Rear: Single disc Physical capacities: Gross weight: 380.1 kg Fuel capacity: 20.81 L Color options: Candy Diamond Red/ Metallic Titanium hope it helps | ||
| Rudolf35 |
Tested a XR1200 Well, my mistake was riding my Uly to the test ride of the XR. Got on the XR, not bad, drove it to the corner to get on the service road and I knew all that I needed to know. Three more corners to bring it back. The sales person wanted to know why I did not ride it longer. That was easy, it rides like a horse with two lame back legs. I never rode a bike that actually drug it's back end through corners. The front was willing but the back was asleep. I have no clue what bike the reviewers in the EU where riding but it was not the XR1200 - one even had the gaul to compare it to a Ducati (in favorable terms). | ||
| Trojan |
I have no clue what bike the reviewers in the EU where riding but it was not the XR1200 - one even had the gaul to compare it to a Ducati (in favorable terms). The standard XR1200 has probably the worse rear shock absorbers ever fitted to a production motorcycle. How H-D get away with this is amazing, but they do  Swapping these for decent aftermarket shocks (Bitubo/Ohlins/Race Tech etc) makes a huge difference in handling and transforms the stock bike immediately. If you then lengthen the rear shocks (either with longer shocks or spacers) then it is again transformed  Typically Harley really, you have to add parts straight away to make it work properly. But is is worth it Most people seem to want to compare the Xr1200 to a Buell....which it is not. You might as well compare a Buell Ulysses with a Suzuki GSXR1000 and then come to the conclusion that the Buell is slow. | ||
| Rudolf35 |
Add to make right?!?!? I have my share of bikes and I love to farkle them all. But, there is a major difference between farkling a bike and having to replace major components to make it work. Did a quick calculation and it seems that one would need to add around $1,2000 worth of parts to a XR1200 to make it work the way it should. True, one can not compare a Uly to a GSXR1000 but one can take a stock Uly or GSXR into corners and make a decent go of it - not with a XR1200. My game plan is to wait until the used market for the XR fills up and then get one. Oh, I do not know if this is news but I was at a HD shop in FtWorth and one sales units stated that HD is dropping the XR1200 in the lineup?!?! (Message edited by rudolf35 on July 22, 2010) | ||
| Shaggy |
If this were the case then Harley bought the "XR1200" name from Storz just to kill that "brand" too? See: http://www.storzperf.com/new.html | ||
| Babired |
Last night I was at the dealer I bought 3 of my Buells from and the sales lady, knew me for the Rider's Edge program, asked if I wanted to ride the XR1200X while I was there. I told her I would take her up on it and also the new 48 with the big thick front tire, but I didn't have my gear with me. So she shows me a huge article on it and asks if I want a copy. So I said yeah (puke) but I'll read it to see what the hipe is all about. The article wrote by Jess McKinley he rode it on Road America's Thunder Valley chicane. Front forks the article says has the same spring rates as the previous models but the damping characteristics are tuned to work specifically with the Dunlop Qualifier D209. So since when is the damping designed to work with tires? I thought Damping is related to fork oil and spring load and rebound along with suspension speed as the bike goes over soft or sharp bumps. The rear shock is Nitro charged,.. look out Lee and Tracy I will be asking you all questions or maybe Reg K can help out. the XR1200X weighs 570 lbs HEAVY wondering how the thing turns in low speed turns probably need a lot of throttle work. Brakes on the front look impressive. The writer say speed shifting is a bit laborius also at high speeds. I'm going to ride the hell out of it in the corners and then find a good bumpy road to see if the front forks get hydraulic lock like the single stage damping on all of the older sporster models. See you guys started it I can't wait to ride HD preformence model K | ||
| Trojan |
Front forks the article says has the same spring rates as the previous models but the damping characteristics are tuned to work specifically with the Dunlop Qualifier D209. The writer obviously hasn't seen an Xr1200 then. The forks on the Xr1200X are completely different to the XR1200 base model. The Xr1200 has a strange setup with just a damper in one leg and springs in both. The XR1200X has BPF (Big Piston Forks) as fitted to the latest GSXR1000/ZX6R models. These work in a complete different way to conventional forks (never mind the weird XR1200!) and will have completely different spring and damping rates to the stock XR1200 (which is fitted with the same tyres). The XR1200X forks and shocks are miles better than the stock XR1200 model, but tehbike is still heavy, so don't try to compare it to a Buell as the comparison isn't really valid. | ||
| Gater |
My HD dealer told me he would sell me the 2009 that he had for $8K. I told him thanks but not thanks. My XB12S is a much better bike. | ||
| Moxnix |
Trojan's Rayborn tribute XR1200 is on page 14 of Motorcyclist, Oct. issue. Plus a feature on the XR1200X back a few pages. Matt, if you don't get that mag in Old Blimey, shoot me a PM and I'll find an un-thumbed issue from a news stand to send, gratis. | ||
| Trojan |
Hi Moxnix, Thanks for the offer of the magazine. Someone from the XR1200 forum has already sent me a copy thanks. | ||
| Azxb9r |
The HD demo truck was in town last weekend so I went over and took an XR1200X out for a ride. The bars are a little higher than I would like, but the bike has a comfortable upright position. The seat is firm, supportive, and easy to move around on. The brakes are very good. The engine feels like a de-tuned xb lump. It is strong in the mid range (3000-5000 rpm), but a bit soft up top. The redline is 7000 rpm but revving it past 6000 is pointless. Performance is "spirited" but not fearsome. One thing that is quite impressive is the fueling. Throttle response is smooth with no surging, farting or any other issues throughout the entire rpm range. Handling is where things got interesting. Under "normal" riding conditions the ride quality is god and the bike handled fine through lazy sweepers and traffic maneuvers. If you stuffed it into a corner aggresively though, something was afoul in the rear end. It would cringe, cower, and look for someplace to hide. It was a bit alarming because it was such a large personality change. If you are smooth and deliberate on corner entry, the bikes manners are okay even if you wack the throttle open. Stuff it in aggresively and it is out of its element. Steering was a bit sluggish, especially on quick left to right transitions, but not unexpected or unacceptable. HD came very close to building a very nice bike here. If they fix the rear end, drop the bars a bit(and maybe make the head angle a bit steeper) and they would be on the mark. Overall I liked the bike . . . just not enough to want to buy it. At its $12,000 price point, I would rather spend the money on a Ducati Monster or a Triumph Speed Triple. In order for the XR1200X to really be appealing it needs to be much cheaper. | ||
| Randytelecaster |
I think the handling in the back could be improved by putting the solid bushing at the back of the motor. This has been approved by the A.M. A. for racing and I think Vance & Hines has it . Voids warranty on chassis , though | ||
| Kev_m |
I still love the XRX and want one. | ||
| Firstbuell |
OK - what's the "sweet spot" average market price these days for a used XRX? | ||
| Ffbuell1 |
I have a 2011 xr1200x and no it is not a buell xb the bottom end is the same as a 2008 and later (one and a half inch big end bearing ) versus one and a quarter as on 2007 and earlier Buell's (and all xl Harley's a oil system that is the same ,same cam's , but it has a bigger throttle body than a Buell XB and it has oil cooled heads which the Buell does not ..Yes they are heavy although mine is 26 lbs. lighter than stock I also have done some mods to it and it is a very fun reliable bike and it was dyno'd Base line was 80 hp and 72 lbs. ft. with the Vance and hines 2 into 1 into 2pipe and the HD race tuner and K&N it went to 91hp and 82 lbs. ft. of torque ,and as far as handling I ride with all kinds of sport bikes and naked's and have NO problem staying with any of them. I love the bike and always said I would not sell it but if I could get what I want for it I would love an EBR 1190SX. | ||
| Firstbuell |
Ffbuell1 sez, ".....if I could get what I want for it....." how much?, pls & thx | ||
| Ffbuell1 |
Hi firstbuell $8750.00 I still have the stock exhaust it also has the oberon front brake and clutch levers braided front brake line and has 2 years left on the extended warranty mileage is 14,250 Oh and it is the black denim color | ||
| Reepicheep |
Makes a $3000 M2 look pretty nice. I'll take mine in grey with the orange frame please. | ||
| Kev_m |
If I were currently in the market I'd hit that XRX. If it were denim white, I'd find a way to be currently in the market.  | ||
| Panshovevo |
A Buell doesn't have oil cooled heads??? All air cooled motors rely on oil cooling to assist in heat transfer. Even the water cooled Helicon motors use an oil cooler to help cool the motor. Block off the oil cooler on any Buell and ride it on a hot day. See what happens to the engine temps. As far as the dyno numbers, I'll reserve comment as I wasn't there. And what's with the ad for the Kawasaki? (Message edited by Panshovevo on September 20, 2015) | ||
| Panshovevo |
Not an XRX, but if anyone is looking for an XR, there's one on Craigslist in SE Florida. Not mine, no affiliation or connection, I know nothing about it. https://treasure.craigslist.org/mcy/5295425463.htm l |
