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Hughlysses
Posted on Tuesday, May 06, 2014 - 10:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Geoff May mentioned on Facebook prior to the last WSBK race that they had a new front brake scoop on their RX's. I just stumbled on this on the FB page for BestemUSA:




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Bestem Carbon Fiber debuts in WSBK! Our front brake air scoops were fitted on Team EBR Hero's 1190 RX and blew Geoff and Aaron's hair like rock stars.



Very interesting. You can also clearly see the WSBK-spec fork that's been added as well.
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Noone1569
Posted on Tuesday, May 06, 2014 - 11:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I want one.
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Jdugger
Posted on Tuesday, May 06, 2014 - 11:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Neat!

For those with an RX: Does the scoop screw into the form bottom, or is there a fitting in the axle? Do you have to drop the scoop when swapping tires?
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Figorvonbuellingham
Posted on Tuesday, May 06, 2014 - 02:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Why does it look like there are two fork tubes?
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D_adams
Posted on Tuesday, May 06, 2014 - 02:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Jim, scoop screws in to the end of the axle.
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Redbuelljunkie
Posted on Tuesday, May 06, 2014 - 02:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



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Jdugger
Posted on Tuesday, May 06, 2014 - 03:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

> Why does it look like there are two fork tubes?

Most bikes at this level use gas charged forks. You are seeing the res, not unlike how a rear shock has the same.

Very expensive.
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Dmhines
Posted on Tuesday, May 06, 2014 - 04:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Scoop comes off in 60 seconds ... 2 bolts. It looked kinda goofy so I took mine off .. no sense on a bike I am just gonna street ride.

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Satori
Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2014 - 01:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So am I the only one that has noticed with the new setup, that the rotor is no longer mounted to the rim, but to the hub? It looks to be about the same size, but it is most definitely not a ZTL setup. That's a single floating disk.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2014 - 05:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So am I the only one that has noticed with the new setup, that the rotor is no longer mounted to the rim, but to the hub? It looks to be about the same size, but it is most definitely not a ZTL setup. That's a single floating disk.

Do you mean this?


That's not on the EBR; he posted the pic to show a clear view of the super bike fork. The EBR front brake disk is definitely still rim-mounted.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2014 - 07:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here's another pic of the WSBK fork and front brake on the EBR 1190RX race bike (from a thread in the road racing sub-forum). You can clearly see that the brake rotor is still rim-mounted:

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Satori
Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2014 - 11:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hugh, Yep that was the picture I was talking about. So my mistake I guess.
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Froggy
Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2014 - 01:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here is the full size of the pic that was posted earlier, it is not an EBR.

http://www.mcnews.com.au/wp-content/gallery/wsbk_2 014_rnd1_gallery_d/forks3.jpg

From http://www.mcnews.com.au/wsbk-2014-round-one-galle ry-d/


I'm combing through their galleries, they got some nice EBR shots like this one: http://www.mcnews.com.au/wp-content/gallery/wsbk_2 014_rnd1_gallery_j/bikes4.jpg

Edit - Another cool shot, it appears the race bikes have carbon fiber frame protectors, I love the look of that clutch cover protector too
http://www.mcnews.com.au/wp-content/gallery/wsbk_test_pi_feb_gallery_a/ebr_pits1.jpg

(Message edited by froggy on May 07, 2014)
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Ducbsa
Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2014 - 02:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Is the aluminum box above the shock in this pic a gas tank?

http://www.mcnews.com.au/wp-content/gallery/wsbk_t est_pi_feb_gallery_a/ebr_pits1.jpg
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Hughlysses
Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2014 - 03:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Is the aluminum box above the shock in this pic a gas tank?

Yes, they had to add an auxiliary gas tank to get enough total capacity (~1.5 gallons more IIRC) to finish a typical WSBK race.
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Skntpig
Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2014 - 04:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Anyone recognize who makes those handlebar switches? On the wsb bikes?
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Steeleagle
Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2014 - 03:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I noticed the case covers in the linked pix. Somebody needs to let them know about the name change!

http://www.gbracing.eu/Buell.347/
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Ourdee
Posted on Friday, May 16, 2014 - 01:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)




This is the OEM RX scoop, made out of plastic. Also note the OEM forks and aluminum wheel.
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Rick_fears
Posted on Friday, May 16, 2014 - 10:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I wonder if the case slider in Steeleagle's link will fit 1125's? The side cover cases are the same on both bikes correct? Those look cleeeeaaan.
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Firstbuell
Posted on Friday, May 16, 2014 - 03:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

didja see that Ducati MotoGP now has their own 2-opening caliper scoops?





what's next, GiGi rockin' out on geetar?
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Rodrob
Posted on Saturday, May 17, 2014 - 02:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I will venture to say that the switch to gas charged forks facilitated different caliper mounting points, facilitating a different caliper, facilitating a different air scoop. I doubt there is anything more too it than that.
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Ourdee
Posted on Monday, June 30, 2014 - 09:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sensor needs screwed back in in Hugh's pic
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Trojan
Posted on Monday, June 30, 2014 - 10:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

didja see that Ducati MotoGP now has their own 2-opening caliper scoops?

Ducati had problems with overheating their carbon brakes, so tried some scoops to aid cooling. They have now been allowed to run larger diameter discs so cooling shouldn't e such an issue. It is funny how only Ducati have reported this issue yet everyone runs the same brakes in MotoGP (except gresini who continue with Nissin I think).

On Friday some MotoGP bikes were running with blanking plates over the brakes to get them hotter in the cool wet weather!
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Jdugger
Posted on Monday, June 30, 2014 - 11:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Carbon can perform better than steel, but needs to be in the right temp range to do so.
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