| Author | Message | ||
     Emufriedchicken |
Has anyone taken one of these apart yet? If so can you let me know. My mirror/indicator snapped off from the stalk and I want to take it apart to repair it properly. where it broke there is a nut and thread like there is on the bottom of the stalk where the indicator wires go up. so there must be a way to disassemble it.. Cheers from Australia Tim | ||
| Mhpalin |
Hey Tim use the goggle search at the top of the page there are a few threads that should help you out  Mike  | ||
| Emufriedchicken |
Thanks Mike...already done that and ploughed through numerous topics on the same but they say it cant be done....I don't buy that at all. If some thing is manufactured and assembled it must be abled to be taken apart again. Cheers Tim | ||
| Dennis_c |
You had better buy it. The only way is to take the glass out to get at a screw in the middle. The glass is the last thing they put in. I tried a heat gun no luck I wanted to do the same thing. If you find a way let us know. If you could find something to loosen the glue without hurting the plastic you might get lucky. | ||
| Skymonkeyone |
There is no disassembly possible and here's why: First, the LED blinker assembly is glued in. Second, the mirror "ear" assembly is bolted to the stalk. Lastly, the mirror is bonded to it's swivel mount. If the blinker assembly goes out, you need a new mirror. If the "ear" breaks off the stalk, the only recourse you have (minus replacing the $110 entire unit) is to fill the cavity with Shoe Goo (polyurethane bonding agent)tape the thing together securely with electrical tape (or gaffer tape)and let it sit for a day till the urethane is completely cured. I did the latter as a "temporary" fix a few months ago when a buddy dumped my bike in my driveway and I was waiting on the replacement unit to arrive; it's still working just fine. Another note: I had a replacement mirror arrive new from HD/Buell which came with the stalk/ear attachment bolt loose from the factory. It lasted six miles before it loosened itself up so far that the mirror ear came off and was dangling by the blinker wires! THANKFULLY it was a genuine HD part and they warranted it. Prior to leaving with the new part, though, we all sat around trying to find a way to reattach/tighten that bolt; we could not. Ultimately, you are not going to access the blinker workings or the internal tightening nut without breaking the mirror off it's swivel mount. Assuming the pivot does not break, it wouldn't cost you ten bucks to get a new piece cut at a local glass shop. I think I might try it with one of my broken units. | ||
| Mhpalin |
When you buy a mirror from Al he tells you to put a drop of blue loctite on the bolt behind the mirror Mike | ||
| Emufriedchicken |
Thanks for the info guys ..seems to be a silly way to manufacture something. But I guess I will have to live with it until the glue I put on mine doesn't work anymore then I will buy a new one. Cheers from Australia Tim | ||
| Stevenfrye |
The center of the mirror you have to drill through the glass to get to a screw that holds the mirror ball joint together and the led pack has two screws and some glue to remove at this point you can rewire and solder new or bypass burned out led,s | ||
| Skymonkeyone |
<rant> This thread really got my blood boiling. I think it's asinine that the LED blinker is glued in from the outside thus preventing any possible/reasonable ability to fix the connecting joint and mirror ball joint. And: HOLY CRAP! $110 for a mirror??? I've had to buy TWO so far! I considered the chinese E-bay option, but screw that; no warranty. </rant> | ||
| Stimbrell |
Chinese E-bay mirrors do not fit, you can make them fit with some filing and longer screws but they flash too fast and fitting resistors makes no difference....or so I am told | ||
| Zac4mac |
Don't know about the CR mirrors but the R mirrors can be dis-assembled. Stick the glass end in a pot of boiling water for a minute or so. Carefully and slowly pull the glass from its adhesive. When it gets harder to pull, stick it back in the hot water. I've opened a couple from my R, then gave up on them. Zack | ||
| Oldog |
Stimbrell Adding the correct resistance will make the lights flash at the correct rate Did you try the Chinese mirrors if so whos? | ||
| Stimbrell |
 These are the ones I tried, I added 10 ohm 10W resistors and they still flash too fast, I am no expert on electrics though so others may have more luck. I am in the UK and ordered these on Ebay for £20, despite the name of the company they come from Hong Kong. (Message edited by stimbrell on March 19, 2014) | ||
| Oldog |
I have been doing some testing for 1313 on this issue, I was able to get normal blink rate from a single incandescent lamp ( x1 turn signal ) current draw was .7A 10 ohms is to little resistance current is 1.2 amps standard front buell trun signals from '08 draw about 160 mA .16A, adding a 50 ohm resistor will add about 250 ma draw to the circuit... 1313 believes that there was a box added to some of the '08 bikes that made the IC work with the early turn indicators.. | ||
| Stimbrell |
As I said electrics are not my thing but I have just looked on ebay and there are many 50W 6 Ohm resistors listed for a small price, if you think that will solve the flash rate I am happy to give it a go and report back, just let me know if that is what I should try or point me in the right direction. my bike is an 09. | ||
| Jossi |
Hi Stimbrell i have those mirrors in my workshop i try them on my bike but they are shorter i can only see my shoulders yes they flash litle faster but no big deal | ||
| Stimbrell |
Jossi, In the UK it is a problem, MOT failure and enough excuse for the police to treat you as a major criminal, pathetic country we have here now unfortunately. | ||
| Bubba_ |
think if i HAD to replace my 1125R mirrors.. i'd go with a set of firebolt mirrors. Per Zac4mac - they're superior to the stocks by a big margin and would fit fine i think (if i recall correctly) mirrors | ||
| Oldog |
Stimbrell I am working with 1313 on this issue for his CR from my note to Brankin 1 mA = 1/1000 amp ------------------------------------- I did some testing last night. on my bikes turn signal system the IC does react to loss of signal load Front turn signal draws 182 milliamps (mA) when lit Rear turn signal draws 153 mA when lit X1 signal ( I had it as a spare ) 760 mA when lit The IC still blinks the indicator "arrow" if no signals are connected I took both LED signals off and connected 1 X1 signal the IC flashed at the normal rate To solve the problem possibly by using a resistor on the rear signal line This may stop the "spastic" blink, One resistor to try is a 70 ohm, 5 to 10 watt resistor with heat sink for each side could solve the problem presuming that the IC is not defective -------------------------------- Presuming that your IC is ok, figure your resistors with Amps = Volts / Ohms .194 amps = volts 13.6 / 70 ohms.. .272 amps = 13.6 / 50 ohms Watts = volts x amps 3.699 Watts = 13.6 volts X .272 amps figure minimum 5 watts to be safe. if the IC still blinks fast try borrowing an MC turn signal[ Incandescent ] and try it if still fast you may need a new IC... | ||
| Stimbrell |
Just got the flash rate issue fixed with the Chinese mirrors, 20W resistor wired in parallel and flash rate is normal again. 25W resistors are commonly available and should also work. | ||
| Oldog |
20 watt how many ohms? | ||
| Stimbrell |
I used the two 10W 10 ohm resistors I already have, wired them in series, then wired that in parallel so 20 ohm. From what I have read I think the most important thing here is the additional watts, I have ordered 25W 6 ohm resistors and will post what I find when they get here. | ||
| Emufriedchicken |
Well for those interested I finally did disassemble my mirror. Instead of immersing the mirror in hot water I managed to pry a fraction of the edge of the mirror away from its swivel mount with a boxing knife blade just far enough to inject petrol ( gasoline) into the double sided backing adhesive with a insulin hyper dermic . As it slowly dissolved the adhesive I would pry a little more mirror up and inject a little more petrol. Don't rush this job it does take awhile to do. once the mirror is off you can unscrew the screw to take the mounting plate off the mirror assembly and get to the 2 screws that hold the LED blinker in the housing | ||
| Torquehd |
Good work Emu. Thanks for the information. | ||
| Clk92vette |
Does anyone sell the replacement led blinker assembly? My new/old replacement bike has a piece of the blinker cover broken off and I would like to replace it. |
