| Author | Message | ||
     Amafan |
The first 2 races are 6 days away,and a few other teams have new bikes with riders that have never been to Phillip Island before either,and are way faster. | ||
| Jaimec |
I believe in elves... | ||
| M1combat |
One thing about Phillip Island is that it doesn't SEEM like it but it's a VERY fast HP racetrack. That said... 8 seconds is a ways. | ||
| Vagelis46 |
Philip Island, is NOT a HP track. I hope tommorrow is going to be better.....and they fix their technical issues...... Is there a way , they do not qualify for the race ? What is the limit for qualifying? | ||
| Simond |
Agreed, start finish straight aside Philip Island is not a power track. Checa set the lap record last year on the "uncompetitive" Ducati. 8 seconds is a long way and it is a shame that they didn't get out for the afternoon session - are these things related? | ||
| Trojan |
As Vagelis says, PI is not a HP track but is a fast flowing track that SHOULD suit twin cylinder machines. I think the EBR team have just been caught out by lack of testing and a late start to their campaign due to lack of parts. It doesn't help either that they have decided to go for two riders who have no experience of any WSB tracks either, so every weekend will be a steep learning curve for riders and technicians, and they will constantly be playing catch up throughout the year. You can't blame being slow on being a new team and new tyres. MV are just as new and 6 seconds quicker unfortunately  Lets hope that the EBR squad can get up top speed to at least beat the EVO bikes by the tinme race day comes along. | ||
| Vagelis46 |
www.crash.net , reports : Team Hero Erik Buell Racing, meanwhile, didn't make it out for the second session of the day following technical issues in the morning, while Team Toth BMW rider Peter Sebestyen was also absent after hurting himself in an accident earlier today. motomatters.com, reports : The EBR machines of Geoff May and Aaron Yates also faced a tough shakedown, missing the second session after engine problems meant the team spent the afternoon stripping the bikes, rebuilding them and swapping engines. Does it look good ? NO ! ! ! Both bikes , 2 engine failures ! (Message edited by vagelis46 on February 17, 2014) (Message edited by vagelis46 on February 17, 2014) | ||
| M2typhoon |
Hmm, I recall that there were some major issues when the RS started AMA and none of them were good. Here's some pics I stole from the interwebs...    | ||
| Classax |
Like I said its not unexpected. Its really the perfect storm. New machines, new tires, new tracks are going to mean much slower times for at least a few races. PI in all likelihood will be a shake down weekend. Blown motors is disconcerting from the standpoint of limited parts availability. They'll be ok and running mid pack by Friday. P.S. The bikes look stunning. | ||
| M2typhoon |
Just heard a sound clip of the RX race bike idling in the pits from the Assie EBR FB page. #1 It sounds nothing like the RS #2 The devil himself would proud of the sound this machine emits. | ||
| Court |
I believe in Elves . . . Sit back. Watch. Enjoy the show. Erik Buell did not wander into the world of motorcycle racing last week. | ||
| Vagelis46 |
Is there any info, for what went wrong with the engine ? We should not forget , that only 5 engines are allowed for the 2014 season ..... | ||
| Jscott |
Wonder what that big hunk of aluminum under the tail section is all about? Increased fuel capacity? | ||
| M2typhoon |
AT those kinds of speeds, looks like they're trying to get fuel mapping down and some major suspension adjustments for those new race tires. Just a bunch of data acquisition runs. I would assume some of the RS stuff is a carry over to the RX. | ||
| Bads1 |
I gotta feeling your looking at the fuel tank itself. Is EBR aloud to use the frame for fuel in WSB ?? | ||
| Vagelis46 |
They need an extra fuel tank under the seat , so that a total of 24liters of fuel is carried by the motorcycle.... | ||
| Vagelis46 |
http://www.mcnews.com.au/aaron-yates-interview-bue ll-to-wsbk/ | ||
| Court |
>>>Wonder what that big hunk of aluminum under the tail section is all about? Increased fuel capacity? "We didn’t have enough fuel capacity with what we were running in the American series so we had to fit an auxiliary fuel tank under the seat." Aaron Yates quoted in the article found at link above. | ||
| Classax |
We should not forget , that only 5 engines are allowed for the 2014 season Unless I read the rules wrong, the season engine use count doesn't start until tech inspection for the first practice of round one. Teams can blow up motors and make changes in testing prior to that and not have it count against them. Yates hit on something that really has surprised me about the whole EBR effort. I fully expected THEM(us)to race as an EVO spec team, but THEY(we)are going whole hog in superbike. Gutsy! A move that either indicates a foolish arrogance or excellent confidence about the quality of your bike. Which it is, we shall soon see. What is quite scary actually, is that the EVO class bikes are ONLY about two seconds off the lap record pace of the the superbikes. I think they will get quite a bit sorted between now and Friday. If I were May or Yates, there is no way I'd try to push for the same near lap record pace in the morning session on a bike, track and tire profile I had never ridden before. Why risk throwing it down the road without getting any set up data. Remember, nearly every other team in the test is on their third two day test session of the season. The EBR riders' pace will go up markedly with some real practice sessions. | ||
| Hootowl |
“The bike is pretty much the same bike as 2012 when they let it compete in the Superbike class… They were running an 1100 – I think – and made it an 1190, it was an air-cooled bike and now it’s a water-cooled Rotax." Huhwhat? | ||
| Nobuell |
Was Aaron Yates talking about the same EBR team? Same bike as last year? | ||
| Bads1 |
Um Aaron has to get up to speed.lol | ||
| Classax |
Looks like the EBR team cut 3 seconds off their lap times in the morning session. Again if its me, I don't think I'm pushing all out just yet. I would think we will see another 2 seconds off their times by the end of the day as the confidence levels in the bike, tires and track familiarity improve. | ||
| Ljm |
I think that the most interesting thing in the. interview was Aaron saying he signed a 2 year contract with the second being for World Superbike. That essentially means that more than a year ago, WSB was in the plan. Probably not long after the 2012 AMA season | ||
| Simond |
That looks a bit better. Like last year there seem to have been plenty of casualties from this test. Loris Baz and Sylvain Barrier the most significant in terms of the championship. Good to see PJ Jacobsen near the front in WSS - I'd love to see him challenging Sofuoglu this year but Jack Kennedy looks like he won't make the race at the weekend. | ||
| Vagelis46 |
I would like the EBR to be closer to the MVAgusta.... EBR is 2sec off the MV at the moment They are both new entries , new teams , but I would have thought the EBR to be more race ready because of their AMA efford of the previous years...... | ||
| Vagelis46 |
http://www.gpone.com/en/2014021712722/Buell-lancia -la-sfida-italo-americana.html | ||
| Trojan |
Phillip Island World Superbike test combined two-day times 1 1 SYKES Tom (GBR) Kawasaki Racing Team Kawasaki ZX-10R 1'30.863 1'30.737 1'30.239 1'31.107 1'30.239 134 2 58 LAVERTY Eugene (IRL) Voltcom Crescent Suzuki Suzuki GSX-R1000 1'30.513 1'30.988 1'30.767 1'30.879 1'30.513 112 3 22 LOWES Alexander (GBR) Voltcom Crescent Suzuki Suzuki GSX-R1000 1'31.642 1'31.000 1'30.528 1'31.360 1'30.528 121 4 33 MELANDRI Marco (ITA) Aprilia Racing Team Aprilia RSV4 Factory 1'31.392 1'31.146 1'30.579 1'31.275 1'30.579 123 5 34 GIUGLIANO Davide (ITA) Ducati Superbike Team Ducati 1199 Panigale 1'30.984 1'30.718 1'30.644 1'31.133 1'30.644 6 76 BAZ Loris (FRA) Kawasaki Racing Team Kawasaki ZX-10R 1'30.757 1'31.080 1'30.900 1'31.197 1'30.757 83 7 50 GUINTOLI Sylvain (FRA) Aprilia Racing Team Aprilia RSV4 Factory 1'31.468 1'31.321 1'30.766 1'31.023 1'30.766 92 8 91 HASLAM Leon (GBR) PATA Honda World Superbike Honda CBR1000RR 1'31.816 1'31.172 1'30.798 1'39.151 1'30.798 85 9 65 REA Jonathan (GBR) PATA Honda World Superbike Honda CBR1000RR 1'31.851 1'31.404 1'30.813 1'31.246 1'30.813 128 10 7 DAVIES Chaz (GBR) Ducati Superbike Team Ducati 1199 Panigale 1'31.469 1'31.419 1'31.087 1'31.697 1'31.087 104 11 59 CANEPA Niccolò (ITA) Althea Racing Ducati 1199 Panigale 1'32.204 1'31.897 1'31.373 1'32.127 1'31.373 105 12 24 ELIAS Toni (ESP) Red Devils Roma Aprilia RSV4 Factory 1'34.127 1'32.301 1'31.441 1'32.156 1'31.441 103 13 44 SALOM David (ESP) Kawasaki Racing Team Kawasaki ZX-10R EVO 1'33.006 1'32.636 1'32.008 1'32.891 1'32.008 103 14 9 FORET Fabien (FRA) MAHI Racing Team India Kawasaki ZX-10R EVO 1'34.228 1'33.676 1'32.780 1'33.604 1'32.780 98 15 71 CORTI Claudio (ITA) MV Agusta RC-Yakhnich M. MV Agusta F4 RR 1'33.087 1'32.858 1'33.632 1'33.515 1'32.858 62 16 32 MORAIS Sheridan (RSA) IRON BRAIN Kawasaki SBK Kawasaki ZX-10R EVO 1'34.396 1'33.954 1'32.919 1'32.895 1'32.895 97 17 11 GUARNONI Jeremy (FRA) MRS Kawasaki Kawasaki ZX-10R EVO 1'34.562 1'33.509 1'32.897 1'32.897 80 18 52 BARRIER Sylvain (FRA) BMW Motorrad Italia SBK BMW S1000 RR EVO 1'33.470 1'32.997 1'32.997 51 19 21 ANDREOZZI Alessandro (ITA) Team Pedercini Kawasaki ZX-10R EVO 1'34.511 1'34.140 1'33.205 1'33.421 1'33.205 98 20 23 SCASSA Luca (ITA) Team Pedercini Kawasaki ZX-10R EVO 1'34.047 1'33.960 1'35.657 1'33.960 70 21 84 FABRIZIO Michel (ITA) IRON BRAIN Kawasaki SBK Kawasaki ZX-10R EVO 1'34.314 1'34.673 1'34.314 47 22 10 TOTH Imre (HUN) BMW Team Toth BMW S1000 RR 1'36.655 1'36.258 1'34.917 1'34.750 1'34.750 99 23 99 MAY Geoff (USA) Team Hero EBR EBR 1190 RX 1'38.152 1'34.807 1'34.992 1'34.807 69 24 20 YATES Aaron (USA) Team Hero EBR EBR 1190 RX 1'39.656 1'36.662 1'36.889 1'36.662 71 25 56 SEBESTYEN Peter (HUN) BMW Team Toth BMW S1000 RR EVO 1'42.242 1'42.242 7 A decent improvement by the EBR team but still a long way off the top Superbike guys and behind all but one of the EVO bikes. With just two days of official practice/qualifying left until race day it will be interesting to see how much closer they can get. I think the long break between Philip Island and round 2 will be a busy time for the team. Alex Lowes showed his class with a blistering time this morning. I think he will give his more experienced team mate some sleepless nights this year  Good result for PJ Jacobsen in WSS too, although I really don't see anyone troubling Soguoglu for another title this year. | ||
| Vagelis46 |
Interesting to read that EBR have to use Aluminium wheels for the WSBK , while the AMA allowed magnesium ! Also the new rules that limits the number of engines , seems to level the field..... The Suzukis are very competitive now , with superfast riders ! The speed advantage of the Aprilias is OVER...... Their engines are detuned compared to the last years WSBK looks very good for this year..... The new rules are actualy in the right direction : Reducing costs , without favouring any particular manufacturer ! ! ! | ||
| Vagelis46 |
Trojan , what are the latest generation of British riders on, that makes them so fast ?  |
