| Author | Message | ||
     Deanh8 |
What do you guys think? I always loved the ZTL brake look but the scoops ruin it for me.   | ||
| Froggy |
If you really hate the cooling scoop that much, you could just take it off, just like you did with other functional pieces like the footpegs and mirrors | ||
| Ratbuell |
And exhaust. Taillight. Rear fender. But, what do Erik and his team know about motorcycles anyway...? (Message edited by ratbuell on October 16, 2013) | ||
| Satori |
I am scratching my head here, how does moving the brake rotor and caliper to the other side of the bike make it look better? Erik engineers from the form follows function outlook. thus the brake ducts to get better performance out of the brake. As far as a rough rendering of a track bike, the top one isn't to bad, except you missed the front turn signals. | ||
| Sir_wadsalot |
Inversion doesn't work because it puts the big beautiful rotor on the off side- the side tilted down when it's on the stand. And I like the cooling scoops. But yeah you could just pull 'em. | ||
| Deanh8 |
I dont hate it, I would never take them off.. I just think they hide to much of that beautiful wheel that is under it. You do know that exhaust is most likely designed to come off right...? and also how does it being on the right make a difference if it was on the left as far as braking performance. When I get my 1190RX it will look just like this, hidden signals, no pass pegs unless needed. Taking off the side muffler for sure, and one bar end mirror on the left side has always worked for me. (Message edited by deanh8 on October 16, 2013) | ||
| Ratbuell |
I suspect, from looking at the photos of the slideshow showing exhaust flow...the secondary muffler does more than just make it quieter. It probably has a lot to do with the torque "curve". Sure, it's designed to be removable. From the stock primary? Probably not, just like wiring the valve open on an XB12 exhaust - noisier, but gives a big flat spot in the powerband. To make room for a race exhaust? Wouldn't surprise me in the least...but that's more involved than just "removing a can". But I'm not the sort to just go hacking shit off a motorcycle. I don't do integrated taillights/signals because I want the separation so the moron behind me can tell "that's a turn signal". I leave my tag where it belongs because - let's face it - I don't always obey the speed limits and it's one less thing to draw attention to me. I use a rear hugger because it keeps crap off my bike. And mirrors tell me where the idiots are, so I can make it home alive from my ride. | ||
| Hughlysses |
+1 Ratbuell. | ||
| Court |
Removing the muffler would defeat many of the incredible design features of the motor. This thread reminded me of the wonderful story of how the rotor got on the right side in the first place . . . it was neither random, nor by accident. | ||
| Torquehd |
I would put up with a slightly-more-noticeable-than-past-Buell muffler for 185 freaking horses and an @$$ load of torque. Court, will you just write a book already so we can all benefit from your insight? "secrets don't make friends"... unless you keep feeding us little bites here and there like you always do. then we tip our hats and eagerly await the next story. Glad you're a member of this forum. | ||
| M2typhoon |
I'm sure that muffler holds part of the key of the 50+ mpg's. | ||
| Froggy |
If they used the same testing as the 1125R/CR, fuel economy is about the same, as both of those were rated a little over 50mpg highway. Those are test conditions, real world will vary, it is quite possible the RX does better in the real world due to better aerodynamics or fuel mapping. | ||
| Hughlysses |
it is quite possible the RX does better in the real world due to better aerodynamics or fuel mapping. Some of the slides from yesterday's intro appear to show it has more to do with changes to the engine internals. It'll be interesting to find out. Hopefully we'll see a very detailed article in the next issue of Cycle World that will delve into a lot of these details. | ||
| Sir_wadsalot |
I would think the bigger engine makeing power at lower revs will give it better mileage. You can just lug it more when cruising around. Simple. | ||
| Ratbuell |
I would think the bigger engine makeing torque at lower revs will give it better mileage. Fixed it for ya  |
