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Deanh8
| Posted on Monday, September 23, 2013 - 01:33 pm: |
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Why hasnt anyone done this yet.. It would be easy, the engine could be solid mounted to the frame.. (Message edited by deanh8 on September 23, 2013) (Message edited by deanh8 on September 23, 2013) |
Edv
| Posted on Monday, September 23, 2013 - 03:38 pm: |
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Go for it |
Davefl
| Posted on Monday, September 23, 2013 - 03:53 pm: |
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Where is the airbox gonna go? |
Oldog
| Posted on Monday, September 23, 2013 - 04:05 pm: |
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wheres the radiators gonna go, and the gas tank cause it aint in the frame, good luck keep us posted...... |
X1bueller
| Posted on Monday, September 23, 2013 - 05:41 pm: |
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bookmarked... |
Jersey_thunder
| Posted on Monday, September 23, 2013 - 05:47 pm: |
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o hell yea !! |
Forerunner
| Posted on Monday, September 23, 2013 - 06:56 pm: |
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Oh my... Sub'ed. |
Natexlh1000
| Posted on Monday, September 23, 2013 - 07:11 pm: |
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Where does the rear shock go? |
Bgbrd
| Posted on Monday, September 23, 2013 - 07:55 pm: |
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Oh Boy!!! now you got my gears turning. For starters let's use the existing nylon tank as an airbox. Anybody have a solution for the fuell tank ? Let's work this problem and make this happen, if only in theory. |
Deanh8
| Posted on Monday, September 23, 2013 - 08:49 pm: |
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Custom intake manifolds with throttle bodies out the side of the frame. Has tank like normal. |
Rex
| Posted on Monday, September 23, 2013 - 09:31 pm: |
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would like to see.... |
Rex
| Posted on Monday, September 23, 2013 - 09:33 pm: |
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try in a norton featherbed frame |
Alfau
| Posted on Monday, September 23, 2013 - 10:38 pm: |
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http://www.gizmag.com/go/2850/ Inspiring article. Scroll down to the heading; "On the road" for some insight re centre of gravity. |
Greg_cifu
| Posted on Monday, September 23, 2013 - 11:48 pm: |
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WTF is wrong with the stock frame? I mean...a pressure cast and stamped aluminum, monocoque frame, carrying the fuel and incorporating as many of the extraneous brackets as possible isn't bad-ass enough? You're an engineering student, right? What design goal would this exercise accomplish? |
Tll130
| Posted on Tuesday, September 24, 2013 - 12:41 am: |
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My question to you sir would it be a solo rider or would you want a dual rider seat? And would it be a show bike or a daily rider kind of a thing? Because you could put the air filter/battery/ECM under the gas tank with a removable top like how you can remove the buell plastic part so easily. Then fab a gas tank for under your seat and put a chrome cover over it keeping Debris and such from damaging it. Then run fuel lines from lowest part of the tank to engine and have a metal cover shielding it from the rear tire. And of course you could easily find a new place for a radiator. If you were thinking about leaving the left fairing on the bike maybe hide it behind there? I'm not sure how big the radiator is. Just a couple ideas for you |
Stev0
| Posted on Tuesday, September 24, 2013 - 12:55 am: |
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Just because you can doesn't mean you should.... |
Tll130
| Posted on Tuesday, September 24, 2013 - 01:01 am: |
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That's true but everyone has their own taste I think it would be sorta cool |
Jramsey
| Posted on Tuesday, September 24, 2013 - 09:04 am: |
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What design goal would this exercise accomplish? Does there really have to be a "goal" other then just doing it because he wants to and has the time, motivation and ability to do so? I think it might just turn out pretty damn neat. Dean,keep us updated on this project. } |
Wesbuell
| Posted on Tuesday, September 24, 2013 - 09:28 am: |
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+1 on what Jramsey said. Just do it already 'cos you want to, and it will be fun, and entertaining for everyone, and that makes it cool. Why hasn't anyone done this yet? ...because they listened to the wrong voice...hahaha Good luck if you have a go. And Stev0 - we figure that out in the post match interview, stop pre-empting hindsight by bringing wisdom to the party;-D |
Greg_cifu
| Posted on Tuesday, September 24, 2013 - 10:15 am: |
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Well, why hasn't anybody put an 1125 engine into a Gold Wing--or a chopper? Because it's retarded, that's why. Usually, you embark on something like this because there is something to be gained: make it lighter, better handling, etc. It would be different if the frame were not already a piece of kick-ass engineering. As an engineering student, if he were going to do this for a senior project, one of the first things he would have to outline would be the design goals he hopes to accomplish by this. He would then try to execute it and document the results. I'm trying to get him to think in those terms and maybe save an 1125 from being scrapped (because nobody is going to want it when this is done). Any moron with a grinder and welder can mate an engine to a frame. That doesn't mean you should.
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Jramsey
| Posted on Tuesday, September 24, 2013 - 10:37 am: |
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As an engineering student, if he were going to do this for a senior project, one of the first things he would have to outline would be the design goals he hopes to accomplish by this. Where was anything said about this being a school project? Have you ever looked at any of Dean's other projects or posts? I doubt it because if you had you can see the kid has natural talent and pretty good fab skills which a lot of Engineers lack and have no desire to attain. } |
Deanh8
| Posted on Tuesday, September 24, 2013 - 11:01 am: |
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How is there nothing to be gained? Going from the tuber engine to an 1125r would give almost a 70hp gain and lighten the bike. Having an older retro looking 90s motorcycle that has balls to run with some of the fastest bikes from today would be a total sleeper/moneymaker Im prob not going to do this just bored thought I'd spark up a convo. Im currently working on putting an 1125r engine into an 80s Harley FXR. 150hp Harley should be fun. |
Gbackus
| Posted on Tuesday, September 24, 2013 - 11:06 am: |
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do it. |
Wesbuell
| Posted on Tuesday, September 24, 2013 - 11:10 am: |
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Bahahahahahahaha, Greg, you probably didn't have to say anything - just post that pic and we would've got your point. I am not a fan of scrapping anything at all, especially Eriks works of art, but if I am standing in my workshop with a tube frame and an 1125 engine you know what is gonna happen...necessity being the mother and all. |
Kc_zombie
| Posted on Tuesday, September 24, 2013 - 02:41 pm: |
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I'll play both sides of the line... Pro: Why not do it? It would be a unique bike when completed. Con: Most likely no one would want to purchase it for anywhere near what you would have in it. Pro: If it works you will have over come a great obstacle, ultimately winning the admiration and respect of your peers. Con: You will be killing two Buells with one stone, ultimately loosing the admiration and the respect of your peers. (have you seen how this group views "Buell Choppers"). Pro: You will be killing two Buells with one stone, inadvertently assisting with their gradual extinction, thus maybe, just maybe increasing the value of the "whole" Buells in a notoriously soft market. I say damn the torpedoes and full speed ahead! |
Jersey_thunder
| Posted on Tuesday, September 24, 2013 - 05:52 pm: |
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You're an engineering student, right? What design goal would this exercise accomplish? because he can...and wants to..
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Natexlh1000
| Posted on Tuesday, September 24, 2013 - 06:11 pm: |
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I think it would be FAR better to put that engine into an old sportster rolling chassis. Far more funny I mean. Imagine the looks of people's faces as you bend spacetime with a 60 horsepower farm implement. |
Steveford
| Posted on Tuesday, September 24, 2013 - 06:32 pm: |
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If I had the skills (which I don't) I'd prefer to take the Barracuda bike which almost was approach but aim for something a bit more suitable for high speed sports touring. I'd go for an MV Agusta 750S America look but that's just me. |
Jim2
| Posted on Tuesday, September 24, 2013 - 07:38 pm: |
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There are enough tuber frames and other parts around that you shouldn't have to scrap a perfectly good tuber to do this. There were also a bunch of 1125 engines that never had frames to begin with. I don't see a problem. I love the idea but to each his own and I understand the people that don't like the idea. Don't forget that there was some great engineering in the old tubers as well. |
Deanh8
| Posted on Tuesday, September 24, 2013 - 10:46 pm: |
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Have u guys seen the Suzuki watercooled TL powerd XB? Well why not just get an 1125? Killing two buells? I have two extra tube frame, frames around and quite a few 1125 engine. No Buell would be killed in the process. Funny 1125r engines are a third the cost of a sportster engine No I'm not an engineering student. Just a guy building an 1190 powered 1125r with an extra tube frame laying around and a camera. I will no be doing this build. I am putting an 1125 engine into a Harley FXR, vrod radiator up front. I'll post pics some day Cost of 120hp Harley S&S engine $6-10k Cost of 150hp 1125R engine $800 dollars I'm willing to bet the 1125r engine is more reliable also. |