| Author | Message | ||
     Jacoby |
Hey guys, this is my first post. I bought my 09 uly about two months ago. It has 5000 miles on it now . Haven't had any issues until yesterday. July 4th I was headed up to my pops house doing 75mph through Baton Rouge and it just died. Like someone flipped the kill switch. After pulling over on the side of the road and turning the key on and off a a few times, the engine will spin, but won't crank up. All of the gages work as usual. I eneded up pushing it a couple miles to a hooters. a lap dance and some wings made me feel better. I have it on the charger right now because I tried to crank it too much. Does anyone have any ideas? thanks! | ||
| Jacoby |
I just pulled the plug wire and it is not getting a spark. Any suggestions? | ||
| Thumpthump |
Bad coil, bad ground or bad BAS could cause this and don't forget to check all your fuses. You really need to check the trouble codes. I found an alligator clip works great as a jumper for diagnostic port. This should help. http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/32777/660121.html (Message edited by thumpthump on July 05, 2013) (Message edited by thumpthump on July 05, 2013) | ||
| Jacoby |
Thanks thump thump. I used the alligator clip like you suggested. The check engine light is just blinking rapidly then pause for a few sec and blink rapidy again. from what I understand it isn't showing a code. I checked for power at the coil and the middle (grey) wire is hot. Any suggestions are welcome. thanks! | ||
| Jacoby |
Is there a way to check the bas sensor with a multimeter? I've been looking and haven't seen anything. | ||
| Thumpthump |
The bike should start without the BAS plugged in. It will throw a code that you have low voltage at the BAS. It's worth a shot. | ||
| Thumpthump |
Oh yeah, It could also be a cracked ECM. I hope it's not. Look for a hairline crack/gap where the ECM plugs plug in. | ||
| Fltwistygirl |
Jacoby- Welcome and sorry to hear your first post is related to a problem. Like any make/model bike, our Buells have their quirks, but I've not found a better bike for me when they are running well, which is most of the time. You are on the right path using the alligator clip code checking method. Count the number of fast blinks to figure out the error codes. The CEL will blink rapidly for the first number of the error code. It will then pause and will blink rapidly for the second number of the error code. If it blinks rapidly once, then pauses, that is a one. If it blinks six times after the pause, that is a six. One blink/pause/six blinks = code 16. There is another quick list of what each code means on my recent "check engine light on XT" thread, here in Big bad and dirty. Good luck and be sure to post back up with your progress. BeLinda. | ||
| Jacoby |
I agree BeLinda, I love the bike. always wanted one! I just went outside and tried the trouble light again. it flashes rapidly, then pauses and flashes again non stop. The pause between flashes is the same every time. thump thump I will try disconnecting the BAS sensor after while, when the battery charges up more. Thanks for the input and ill keep you posted. | ||
| Desert_bird |
Sorry to chime in, but you may want to record how many flashes your getting between pauses. That there seems like an error code. DB | ||
| Jacoby |
Ok, I have some good news. I removed the BAS and turned the key on. Checked for spark and I now have a spark! Unfortunately though, the engine still wont start up. I was hoping that that was it. when I saw the spark I was excited! I dont know what it could be. | ||
| Jacoby |
Desert bird- the light is flashing so fast I can hardly count. it flashes about 12 times. pause. then ~12 more. 12/pause/12 and never stops. I was looking on another forum and they were saying that it means its not showing a code. does that sound right? I am happy I have spark now. just wont start up. | ||
| Froggy |
Check you fuel pump fuse. | ||
| Jacoby |
Hey froggy, I checked all the fuses. the pump is coming on like normal when I turn on the key. I think whatever is wrong its something silly. | ||
| Desert_bird |
Not sure about the 12 flash thing. Someone more familiar than I will know about that. Perhaps Froggy. Here is literature on codes . . . hoping there aren't any trolling attorneys out there.      (Message edited by Desert_bird on July 05, 2013) | ||
| Ratbuell |
If you were cranking and cranking and cranking with no spark...but now you have spark...I bet you flooded your plugs. Pull the plugs out, dry them off, crank it a bit with the plugs out to help blow some fuel out the plug holes, reinstall and try again. | ||
| Griffmeister |
Yeah, on page 2.5 that Desert Bird posted, top right note after step 6, if light flashes at a rate faster than normal then no codes are present. I agree with Ratbuell, these engines foul plugs real easy. Many times they just won't "dry out". New plugs are the only way to go. Also, it's a huge PITA to get the wires back on the plugs, especially the rear. No contact, no spark. Good luck. | ||
| Jacoby |
yes I believe I am seeing the intermission on the CEL. ratbuell im going to try that tomorrow morning. you might be right about the flooding. I agree accessing the spark plugs and wires is unbelievably difficut. I will keep yall posted. thanks! | ||
| Bikelit |
You have a 2009? I think the bike has a plug self-cleaning procedure. Something like key off, full throttle, then key on for 3 seconds? That said, bad plugs did not kill your bike so this won't cure your main problem... | ||
| Cyclonedon |
If you give it to me, I'll give it a proper burial! RIP July! | ||
| Ratbuell |
That said, bad plugs did not kill your bike so this won't cure your main problem... True, but he did say earlier that unplugging the BAS gave him spark again. Sounds like the BAS is the main culprit, and now fouled plugs are a side-effect that, once cleaned out, should let the bike start and run again. I've done the self-clean procedure...it works on *mildly* fouled plugs in my experience, but it is worth a shot in a pinch. If he was roadside, I'd say go for it. Since the bike is home, near tools, and out of harm's way...I'd pull the plugs and clean, re-gap, and reinstall - it's a good opportunity to put hands on all the connections "just to be safe". | ||
| Jacoby |
I pulled the plugs this morning and cycl3d the engine a bit to blow out the air in the cylinders. It did smell a bit gassy.The plugs looked fine. I let the bike sit for a couple of hours with the plugs removed. put it all together and It still wont start. I don't know what else to do. I guess ill put the cover on it and take it to the hd shop one of these days when I can get up some extra money.  | ||
| Jacoby |
thanks for all the input!} | ||
| Mark_weiss |
Spark is good. Do you hear the fuel pump cycle when you switch the ignition on? | ||
| Jacoby |
yes I do | ||
| Conchop |
I'm really curious about the root cause of this problem - keep us in the loop once you get it fixed ... | ||
| Jacoby |
I will keep yall posted. it may be three or four weeks before I get it in. I'm trying to get back to work. | ||
| Panhead_dan |
OK, this is Bull pucky. We can fix this bike dammit. What makes you think the fuel pump is working? Do you have the shop manual? (not the owners manual) Do you have tools and a place to do a little work on it out of the weather? I can't remember at the moment but there is a short list of common stuff that will not throw a code. Anybody? Let's help get this one running! | ||
| Panhead_dan |
Mine died while riding and it turned out to be the connector for the fuel pump on the left side behind the subframe. I had to pop it open and squeeze the female side of one of the pin connections tighter so it would make better connection. | ||
| Jacoby |
Hey panhead dan, yeah I do have tools and a place to work on the bike. I dont own a workshop manual for the bike. I believe the fuel pump is operating because I can hear it prime when I turn the key on. Let me know if you come up with any ideas. im willing to wrench. | ||
| Smackerage |
When mine was dying while I was riding. It turned out to be the actual ECM grey connector. Something was wrong with the internals of the ECM. I noticed when I would take my seat off it would fire right up. Hope this helps | ||
| Jacoby |
Hey guys, OP here. Took it to GOE Harley in angleton, TX. Diagnoses: replace fuel pump. Thx for the help folks. |
