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Newfie_buell
| Posted on Friday, February 20, 2004 - 12:38 pm: |
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I never saw Dave's post that way. However, On another thread I think I read that the annual fee was $600.00 which in my opinion is a small price to pay for a little advertising that hits probably the biggest Buell Owners Community in the World. Just my thoughts. |
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Cj_xb
| Posted on Friday, February 20, 2004 - 12:39 pm: |
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P.S. I am confused because I really saw nothing wrong with Bombers post, and would just as likely post something like that myself to be helpful, I think of it as information sharing. But if it's not acceptable I'll do it privately !! You know I got your back Bomber !!! CJ Please don't anyone get pissy cause I have to stick by my riding bud !!!
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Buckinfubba
| Posted on Friday, February 20, 2004 - 12:52 pm: |
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newfie hit the nail on the head.... cj your ok quit being so senative....ya lil girl!
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Country
| Posted on Friday, February 20, 2004 - 12:53 pm: |
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I do believe that I was the cause of all the fuss. I put up a link to a site that isn't a sponsor. I mean a "true link" to products and such. Sorry, I didn't know the protocol and was reprimanded and I took care of it myself. Hence, you don't see it anymore. Sorry everyone. I'm out. |
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Djkaplan
| Posted on Friday, February 20, 2004 - 01:04 pm: |
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I understand a need for protocol, but there are hundreds of links posted on this board. |
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Blake
| Posted on Friday, February 20, 2004 - 01:05 pm: |
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I see Gootch's post as being out of line, some of the others are not very considerate of all the time and effort that Dave and Brian and Aaron, and Pammy put in here. For us their efforts here are a HUGELY beneficial. Seems like they should get the consideration of first chance. Hopefully Al at American Sport Bike will also continue his initial efforts to be an active source of parts info here. That said, I don't see a problem with trying to help out a local if you have a lead on a part that they need. Group hug? (Brian, put your "pipe" away.) |
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Josh_
| Posted on Friday, February 20, 2004 - 01:21 pm: |
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>well that tells me that they don't frequent their dealer Good point
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Daves
| Posted on Friday, February 20, 2004 - 01:27 pm: |
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I know that Bomber didn't post a link, I probably should not have included his post in my first posting. Ride to the edge! Thin skinned Dave Iowa HD/Buell (Buell Cycle Center) |
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Daves
| Posted on Friday, February 20, 2004 - 01:29 pm: |
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Ps, Blackbelt, I do not have any race ecms in stock. Sorry. I can probably still get one for you if you need it. Ride to the edge! Dave Iowa HD/Buell (Buell Cycle Center) |
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Blackbelt
| Posted on Friday, February 20, 2004 - 01:55 pm: |
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well what is the cut off time frame when i won't be able to get one? cause getting the fund from the Accounting dept. of my family.. (THE WIFE) What is the price for them? i might have to turn on my "BELL" charm... hehehe |
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Daves
| Posted on Friday, February 20, 2004 - 02:12 pm: |
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They list for 190.00 With your Badweb discount(available from this sponsor) it will be 171.00 plus shipping to you. I will, at this point have to get it from another dealer so when they are gone, they are gone, forever. Better start pouring on the charm! Ride to the edge! Dave Iowa HD/Buell (Buell Cycle Center) |
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Blackbelt
| Posted on Friday, February 20, 2004 - 02:34 pm: |
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no crap... if i get in a bind, can i call on some help.. hehehe.. jokin.. you will be hearing from me in a couple.. your the man dave. adam |
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Blake
| Posted on Friday, February 20, 2004 - 04:31 pm: |
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Country, Much thanks and respect for your very considerate and rational response. I wish more followed your lead. Your intentions were obviously honorable. Thanks for understanding the policy here wrt sponsorship. Most hapless infringers of the policy unfortunately take off on a hate-speach laden rant. You obviously have a lot of self confidence and integrity. Thanks again for understanding. |
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Nevco1
| Posted on Friday, February 20, 2004 - 04:39 pm: |
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Questions...As the Race ECM's for X1's have been discontinued and I have both: 1. How long can a Race ECM last without the usual crash'n'burn torture test? 2. Is there an aftermarket replacement for the Race ECM? Personally, I think it sucks big time that a parts for bikes produced through 2002 has been discontinued even if it is a specialty/upgrade part. Especially so if they do not allow the aftermarket access to the proprietary information so that they can clone them. I won't bother speculating why HD/BMC made the decision. However, owning both a Buell and a Harley, I believe I may have invested my money in the wrong brands if this is all the support I get. Thank you in advance for any information that can be provided to my questions. |
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Blackbelt
| Posted on Friday, February 20, 2004 - 05:03 pm: |
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Good call Nevco1. i second that about the parts being discontinued so quickly.. ever since i bought my X-1, i have noticed parts being dropped off faster than spidy dropping Mj.. just jokin tony. I couldn't resist. |
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Hootowl
| Posted on Friday, February 20, 2004 - 06:11 pm: |
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I wonder how many were made before they were discontinued? Is there a large cache of these somewhere? What is their failure rate? I have never heard of one going South. I've had mine for 5 years and 45K miles in below freezing to well over 100 degree weather. Still stroking. Lets hope someone at HD/Buell made the right decision when they gave it the axe. Jeff edited by hootowl on February 20, 2004 |
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Wyckedflesh
| Posted on Friday, February 20, 2004 - 06:33 pm: |
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I am going to chime in here about the link for parts I posted. I looked all through the site I posted. It was posted because it offered items different from those of the sponsors here. If it had been parts that were identical to the ones available from sponsors I would have said to ask them. I try to be careful that the links I offer up are for products that a sponsor doesn't have. Now if someone like Dave or Brian or Al does have those parts, they can then chime in and say "hey I can get those and they will run this much." As was pointed out the exchange rate is real high. I really like the triple tree design they offer for the XB's and haven't seen one like it. Maybe by posting a link to parts different then I have seen elsewhere its possible one of our current sponsers will contact them as a dealer or find out who the manufacturer is so they can become a dealer. |
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Daves
| Posted on Friday, February 20, 2004 - 07:10 pm: |
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I think I may have over-reacted(OK, I did), I was/am having a bad day and I took it out on you, my Badweb friends. To those that I offended, I am sorry. Had a lot on my mind lately. It is not my job or place to police this board. Ride to the edge! Dave Iowa HD/Buell (Buell Cycle Center)
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Blasterd
| Posted on Friday, February 20, 2004 - 10:49 pm: |
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Daves, Speaking of parts, Do you have a set of rockerbox gaskets lying around for a 2000 M2? The good ones? Ken |
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Country
| Posted on Friday, February 20, 2004 - 11:00 pm: |
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Daves, Its cool. I don't always know who sponsors the site. But we need people like you who know what's up in order to fill in the times that Blake and the others aren't here to do what always needs to be done. Thank again for all your support with this site. If it wasn't for you and the other sponsors this site would probably not be here for people like me. |
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Nevco1
| Posted on Friday, February 20, 2004 - 11:44 pm: |
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ever since i bought my X-1, i have noticed parts being dropped off faster than spidy dropping Mj.. In as much as I understand and share your teasing of Spidey, if HD/BMC continues to drop parts and accessories as fast as he does good old MJ, WE ARE FUCKED!!! About all I can say is "Erik, Thanks for the Memories." "It was real, it was fun, but it turned out to be..." Sorry guys, but I was a partner in an electronics manufacturing company and an automotive electronics expediting company. Electronics can either last forever or fail for a myriad of reasons. Now that the Race ECM's are discontinued along with a bunch of other things for bikes that are only two years old, what are we supposed to do if for some unforeseen reason ours fail or we would like a replacement? I don't know about you, but unless there is a replacement part either available via HD/BMC or the aftermarket, I feel totally screwed. All the more reason to sell my Buell and write it off as a bittersweet experience. Go ahead, flame me, I really don't give a fuck. Perhaps Court's pen pal Sharon (CBR XX) from a year ago had it right, "Only Fool's Own Buells." God, I hope that ain't so, but that is the way I feel at the moment. |
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Henrik
| Posted on Saturday, February 21, 2004 - 12:01 am: |
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Bill; as an S2 owner I feel your pain. And there *is* some law in place that charges manufacturers with the duty to maintain a supply of parts for vehicles for 10 years after manufacturing date. Of course we're only talking stock parts here As for ignition modules. You should be able to do something similar with one of the computer programmable aftermarket units. I realize that's not the whole point, but look what owners of old Brit bikes have to go through to keep their bikes running Yes, it will become increasingly difficult to get exactly the parts we want. When that becomes too much of a chore it'll be time to make a choice. Henrik |
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Blake
| Posted on Saturday, February 21, 2004 - 12:01 am: |
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Dang, that has to be the absolute strongest, most emotionally charged post I've EVER seen from you Bill. I betcha you can find a race ECM for your X1 fairly easily right now. Might be a good idea to snag a spare. Buck up compadré. |
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Nevco1
| Posted on Saturday, February 21, 2004 - 12:18 am: |
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Blake & Henrik... Thanks for your comments. I would not feel so wronged if a comparable replacement becomes available from the aftermarket. However, considering the lack of cooperation American Sport Bike and others have had concerning purchasing tooling for incidental parts like an air cleaner cover, I really doubt if there will be a satisfactory answer. Please...Someone with authority prove me wrong. Henrik, if you know old Brit Bikes and their perpetuation in America, say hello to Brian Slarky for me. He will be more than pleased to explain how Lucas received the misnomer "The Prince of Darkness." |
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Awprior
| Posted on Saturday, February 21, 2004 - 03:15 am: |
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The company I work for (John Deere, Construction division particularly) bases 20 years on parts, but we will do parts by demand past that. I've seen a number of dies brought from the shelves to press hoods etc. from tractors we've made in the late 40s to stamp one or two parts if a customer needs it. Metal stamping and electronics are two entirely different things, but I would hope that if we can get bring a huge ass press back to life for one part, Buell/HD/whatever supplier they have ( which I bet it is) can continue to produce/supply ECMs based on demand, regardless of who may manufacture it. Alex edited by awprior on February 21, 2004 |
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Nevco1
| Posted on Saturday, February 21, 2004 - 04:15 am: |
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In retrospect, kindly substitute "HDI" for "Erik" in my previous post. Having met the man and understanding his enthusiasm and dedication, I realize that this would not have been his decision. However, I stand firm on the remainder of my comments.
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Crusty
| Posted on Saturday, February 21, 2004 - 08:52 am: |
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Bill, is the weather getting to you? You're not having any problems with your X1, and you're ready to call it quits over a possible discontinuance of an accessory? There are still a lot of Race ECMs out there, and it will take a long time before they disappear. With resources like Dave S, Bubba and Spiderman on this forum, I wouldn't worry about finding parts. You realize that the emphasis at Mother H-D has gone from customer satisfaction to Stockholder satisfaction; and to the true enthusiasts working there, it looks like a rehash of the AMF days. Harley is attempting to ward off the effects of slowing sales to make themselves look more profitable. They're cutting as many corners as possible. Let's not project too much negativity into this. Buell is still being run by Enthusiasts. It was enthusiasm that saved Harley back in the '80s. I believe that Buell will do the right thing (they always have for me), and it's people like everybody here that will keep the company going. Remember last year? H-D decided that Buell didn't deserve a Homecoming, but we pulled it off and had a pretty good time, too. I'd be more worried about what's going to happen when the cam bearings in that Twin Cam take a dump, than about where to find an ECM. |
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Daves
| Posted on Saturday, February 21, 2004 - 09:08 am: |
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Blasterd, I'm sure we do have the gaskets you need, call me today and we'll send some out for you. Nev, How much do you want for the X1? I may have a buyer. Call me! Phone number 1-800-342-7539 ext 14 Ride to the edge! Dave Iowa HD/Buell (Buell Cycle Center) |
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Nevco1
| Posted on Saturday, February 21, 2004 - 11:02 am: |
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I'd be more worried about what's going to happen when the cam bearings in that Twin Cam take a dump, than about where to find an ECM. Crusty...Luv ya dearly, but whatever you do, don't take that job at the "Suicide Hotline." ![](http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/clipart/roflol.gif) |
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02buells3t
| Posted on Saturday, February 21, 2004 - 11:26 am: |
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OK, here is another issue with the tube frame parts being discontinued. One thing that I have noticed is a very strong trend from Buell to go to the "next highest assembly" for parts procurement. The newer parts manuals no longer brake down assemblies to smaller parts. As most dealers use the new parts manuals, many will tell you that smaller parts are "no longer available" and that you have to order the entire assembly. (examples - headlight retaining clips for S3T (order the whole headlight), rear tail light lens for S3T (order the tail light assembly)...) Fortunately, I have the "old" parts manual for my bike, and have ordered (and received) parts by ordering by part number. If I didn't have the older manual, I would have been out of luck. If the trend continues, I expect that the newest parts manuals for all tube framed bikes will be in one book, with one page per bike - the page showing a picture of the bike with a single part number. Of course, the part number will be NLA... |
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