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Advoutlander
| Posted on Tuesday, August 13, 2013 - 11:16 am: |
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My kickstand fell off. I thought it had worked its way loose but the rear bolt hole on the bottom off the engine is stripped. Maybe the front too. What is the solution to this? I didnt have the time or light to properly examine the area so im not sure if this is a part that can be ordered or if it is part of the engine casing. Any ideas |
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Argentcorvid
| Posted on Tuesday, August 13, 2013 - 12:24 pm: |
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There was a recall on the kickstand on the older bikes. |
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Hughlysses
| Posted on Tuesday, August 13, 2013 - 12:50 pm: |
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The bolt heads would sometimes snap off on the early Ulys. I think the problem was actually that they'd work loose, which would allow the kickstand to bend the bolts repeatedly until the broke. Are you sure yours is actually stripped? You have to remove the muffler to get at the bolts. If it is stripped, you'll have to repair the threads with a Helicoil or Timesert insert. You should be able to do that in place, but you may have to lay the bike on its side. |
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Uly_man
| Posted on Tuesday, August 13, 2013 - 01:06 pm: |
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"My kickstand fell off". "What is the solution to this?" Old school. Just lean it up against a wall. Or buy a car because it will not fall over. |
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Teeps
| Posted on Tuesday, August 13, 2013 - 01:12 pm: |
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The side stand bolts are threaded into the left side engine case (go figure.) Stripped threads can be repaired as Hugh said. Broken bolts need no more repair than extraction of the broken bits. Dress the contact pads, on the case, so they are flat. Reinstall new bolts, torque to spec for 5/16 x 18 bolts or factory spec, which ever is lower. Factory bolts have dry thread lock. I would clean the bolt and apply fresh blue loc-tite. Here's a thread about the issue before the recall. http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/142 838/287535.html |
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Whisperstealth
| Posted on Tuesday, August 13, 2013 - 05:39 pm: |
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I recommend upgrading to grade 8 bolts. It's what I did when mine snapped. |
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Ratbuell
| Posted on Tuesday, August 13, 2013 - 07:12 pm: |
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"It fell off" makes me wonder...how many people actually CHECK their critical fasteners on a regular basis?? Every time I touch one with a tool, I clean it off...and mark it against its part with a dot of bright orange touchup paint. Paint lined up? Good to ride. Paint dots out of alignment? Check it, torque it, do NOT ride it until the issue is figured out. Sidestand. Brake rotors. Brake calipers. Belt sprockets. Fork clamps. Handlebar clamp. Axles. Axle pinch bolts. Primary cover bolts. Primary adjuster locknut. Drain plugs. Oil filter. Swingarm belt "bridge" bolts. Muffler clamps and straps. Shifter and brake linkages. Those are the ones just off the top of my head, that I've touched, torqued, cleaned, painted, and check at least every tank of fuel. Paint dots make for a SUPER fast visual check...and nothing "falls off" my bike. |
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Redtail
| Posted on Wednesday, August 14, 2013 - 02:01 am: |
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Ratbuell Thanks for the post. It is a smart way for a fast check. Some don't realize how important a critical fastener is until its too late. At the very least when loose and drop out you leave parts behind and wouldn't want to imagine anything more. Also don't forget clips and pins. (Message edited by Redtail on August 14, 2013) |
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Ratbuell
| Posted on Wednesday, August 14, 2013 - 08:06 am: |
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...it's also quick and easy. I've serviced three bikes in the last 3 days and the paint dot adds about eight seconds to the torque process for each part. Check your local HD store for "clearance" touchup paint. I used to use Molten Orange that I've had for years (since I owned a 99 M2 in that color up until '02 or so)...but that ran dry and I found a jar of "orange pinstripe" in the clearance bin. $2. Should hold me for another decade, lol. |
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Teeps
| Posted on Wednesday, August 14, 2013 - 12:31 pm: |
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Whisperstealth Posted on Tuesday, August 13, 2013 - I recommend upgrading to grade 8 bolts. The factory bolts are grade 8. In my experience bolts do not "work loose" if properly torqued in the first place. |
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Advoutlander
| Posted on Thursday, August 15, 2013 - 11:48 am: |
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Are the exhaust muffler clamps one use only or can they be used again? |
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Teeps
| Posted on Thursday, August 15, 2013 - 11:57 am: |
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Advoutlander Posted on Thursday, August 15, 2013 Are the exhaust muffler clamps one use only or can they be used again? Depends on who you ask. The service manual says replace after use. Others here will tell you they can be reused. I can tell you that I have had the muffler off and back on my bike at least 10 times. Still have the original hardware holding it on the bike. But, that's me; your experience may vary. What ever you decide. Do not over torque the muffler straps, it will crush the muffler. Don't ask me how I know. Just be sure to keep in lbs separated from foot lbs. |
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Buewulf
| Posted on Thursday, August 15, 2013 - 12:27 pm: |
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"In my experience bolts do not "work loose" if properly torqued in the first place." That was my experience as well... until owning a Buell. Check 'em often! |
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Teeps
| Posted on Thursday, August 15, 2013 - 12:36 pm: |
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Only screws that have fallen out of my Buell. Were the chin fairing screws. And, that was because I forgot to torque them after changing the oil filter. And, I don't use loc tite on non critical fasteners either. As always, your experience may vary... |
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Reepicheep
| Posted on Thursday, August 15, 2013 - 12:41 pm: |
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The rear straps (if you follow torque rules) can generally be reused a few times safely. I never had a problem. The front strap has been reused by myself and others. I personally had a reused front strap fail on my XB9SX, even after following the torque guidance, so the threat in the manual is NOT an idle one. That being said, I've had other reused ones last just fine until I chickened out and replaced them. I got tired of the drama and just ordered a few of cheaper non Harley ones to have laying around and on hand. |
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Uly_man
| Posted on Thursday, August 15, 2013 - 01:05 pm: |
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"Every time I touch one with a tool, I clean it off...and mark it against its part with a dot of bright orange touchup paint". This the way to do it Guys. Sort of like those plastic markers they use on big truck wheels. I set, apart from the engine, anything lower than 20 Ib torque on the bike by hand/feel. I have just had a broken front strap and just fitted the new one and to hold the can weight I used two nuts to lock the strap fixing in place. In other words the strap was very slightly loose to take the expansion from the headers but still support the can without the strap nut winding off as it is now locked in position. That is just me though. |
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Ratbuell
| Posted on Thursday, August 15, 2013 - 02:20 pm: |
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I try not to reuse the straps...but the CLAMP is a multiuse part (the part that connects the muffler to the header). |
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