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Buelliedan
| Posted on Monday, February 16, 2004 - 04:19 pm: |
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Allright I need some more help. I just installed a new rear brake line on my S1 and I can't get the darn things to pump up. I have bled them like crazy but still nothing. Whats the secret to bleeding these things? Do I need to get a mighty vac pump or asomething like that? BTW: I tried to post this to the KV but the brake section is closed?![](http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/clipart/dunno.gif) |
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Bads1
| Posted on Monday, February 16, 2004 - 04:36 pm: |
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Dan I bought one of those brake bleeders like in the competittionaccessories.com catalog for $42.00 and your right its called the mighty vac. |
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Blasterd
| Posted on Monday, February 16, 2004 - 04:36 pm: |
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Thanks Bartimus, I want to remove the stock license plate/turn signal/brake light holder as well. Did you do the same, or just cut the darn thing shorter? Ken |
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Bartimus
| Posted on Monday, February 16, 2004 - 04:53 pm: |
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Blastard, the previous owner had installed that plate bracket. it's real nice and simple. It is aluminum. (easy to straighten out too!) I'm sure they may have what your looking for at http://www.americansportbike.com Or maybe someone else on this board knows where you can get the setup. |
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Andys
| Posted on Monday, February 16, 2004 - 05:35 pm: |
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Buellidan, Remove the caliper, raise it above the master, put a block of something inside the caliper so the piston won't move. Pump the brake pedal a couple of times, hold it down, release the air in the caliper and close the bleeder before releasing the pedal. Repeat until fluid comes out. Once you get fluid through the bleeder you can remount the caliper and finish bleeding to make sure all the air is out. This is how I got mine done (and it took a while to figure out). All the best. |
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Blasterd
| Posted on Monday, February 16, 2004 - 05:52 pm: |
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Bartimus, You wouldn't happen to remember the brand of those markers would you? Ken |
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Buelliedan
| Posted on Monday, February 16, 2004 - 06:14 pm: |
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Thanks Art and Andy, I'm going to try Andys way before I go out and buy the pump. |
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Firemanjim
| Posted on Monday, February 16, 2004 - 06:31 pm: |
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Dan,get a large syringe and force the fluid back thought the caliper bleed screw watching the reservoir for all the nice air bubbles to stop,or if your in a bind and mad/frustrated/covered in brake fluid like I was the last time I did my front caliper,just use a plastic brake fluid bottle with a hose and squeeze it into the bleed screw.)P.S. this was after I bought one of those fancy effing Mity Vac dohickeys and it did NOT work on my front caliper. |
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Bartimus
| Posted on Monday, February 16, 2004 - 06:39 pm: |
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Blasterd, Part# 210487 Universal Ultra Small Mini-Stalk Turn Signals I hope that helps, use the part number to search for it at their website.
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Awprior
| Posted on Monday, February 16, 2004 - 07:45 pm: |
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Court: Thanks for whatever it is that you are sending, I'll have the folks keep an eye out of it and clue me in on what it is once it arrives. I won't be 'home-home' for about another month and a half. And no, I can't say it was solely you that planted the idea of riding across the country, but I can say that the 'Lap of America' article that you posted and the 'who the hell is Court' thing on the Team Elves website spurred my thoughts. I always thought it would be an awesome adventure, and now that I see the support from people here, I know it can be done. Ferris: Thanks for your kind words as well, we'll definitely ride this summer.
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S2pengy
| Posted on Monday, February 16, 2004 - 08:28 pm: |
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I also have a Mity-Vac piece of shit..... Don't waste your money... Syringe or hand pump oiler with clear hose works much better... Go backwards bleed port on the caliper to the master cylinder.... |
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Ferris
| Posted on Monday, February 16, 2004 - 08:52 pm: |
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Ferris: Thanks for your kind words as well, we'll definitely ride this summer. two words: awe some. FB |
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Henrik
| Posted on Monday, February 16, 2004 - 09:19 pm: |
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Dan; I posted a lengthy syringe-style bleeding technique awhile back Works much better than the Vac method for me. Taking the caliper off and lifting it over the reservoir as Andy mentions is a good idea. Henrik (Andy - you old door buster you . Good to hear from you again. Don't be a stranger) |
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Rocketman
| Posted on Monday, February 16, 2004 - 09:27 pm: |
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The Mity-Vac is actually a very nice piece of kit but it acts more like a syphon than a vacuum pump when bleeding brakes. Other applications, such as diaphragm actuated controls, it does a perfect job of testing. There is nothing finer for the price. Back to brake bleeding. You might want to consider using a pressure pump attached to the master cylinder itself. This is by far the best way to bleed brakes, and hydraulic clutches, that suffer air lock or lack of bleed pressure. Easiest way to perform this trick, and especially beneficial to repeat bleeding, is to acquire a Gunsons Eesi Bleed kit. It should be easy enough to adapt a 'spare' master cylinder cap from any machine you're working on to fit this tool. Once suitably adapted to fit the master cylinder you'll never have a problem bleeding brakes. Rocket |
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Henrik
| Posted on Monday, February 16, 2004 - 09:41 pm: |
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Rocket reminded me of another hint for brake bleeding; banjo bolts with bleeder nipples. Works especially well for the front master cylinder - you'll always have a bit of air stuck there. You can get the air out by loosening the banjo bolt slightly while keeping pressure on the brake lever. But the bleeder banjo works much easier. Henrik |
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Josh_
| Posted on Monday, February 16, 2004 - 10:50 pm: |
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Hooligan >Also any of you RS owners with the upside-down forks can chime in too. 29" 91 RS1200 (your 91 has standard conventional forks? 4spd also?) edited by josh_ on February 16, 2004 |
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Paulinoz
| Posted on Monday, February 16, 2004 - 10:56 pm: |
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(Andy - you old door buster you . Good to hear from you again. Don't be a stranger) What Henrik said, G,day mate how yer been. |
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Ferris
| Posted on Monday, February 16, 2004 - 11:46 pm: |
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sumbitch Andy, i totally spaced on your name as i scrolled thru your post. ditto the boy's sentiments above: sure hope you hang around. FB |
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Andys
| Posted on Tuesday, February 17, 2004 - 12:56 am: |
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Hello boys, I apologize for not being around. It's been a tough couple of years, so I've kept pretty much to myself. As much as I enjoyed the people down in Alabama, things just didn't work out as I had hoped (the owner of the Harley dealer I was working for actually had the store taken away from him by Harley!) Still have the unsellable S1, but at least it's running nicely, although it's dying for a nice Penske (but then every Buell is dying for a Penske). After working at stupid jobs for the last few years I've finally landed a real job working with incarcerated adolescents here in Jersey. Finally something that will make a difference. As always, you guys in the Buell community are the warmist people I've had the pleasure to know. Here I was, gone for years and you all welcome me back as though I never left. Special, very special. I look forward to seeing you all again.
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Paulinoz
| Posted on Tuesday, February 17, 2004 - 01:21 am: |
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"I've finally landed a real job working with incarcerated adolescents." Must remind you of the 2001 homecoming mate. "As always, you guys in the Buell community are the warmist people I've had the pleasure to know." or maybe we are just desperate for freinds. don't be a stranger mate. PS: you got mail |
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Court
| Posted on Tuesday, February 17, 2004 - 05:09 am: |
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Andy: Welcome Home ! >>>91 RS1200 (your 91 has standard conventional forks? 4 spd also?) The 1990 RS1200 should be conventional, dual disc and 4-speed. The 1991 RS1200 should be inverted, single disc and 5-speed. The should, in the above statements is a HUGE SHOULD as variants were not unheard of. Court |
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Hans
| Posted on Tuesday, February 17, 2004 - 06:04 am: |
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Hi Andy. Yes, I see your profile now. Andy Spiegel. Never got a chance to thank you for your excellent set up advise, which made my M2 the finest riding bike I ever had. More than welcome back. Hans |
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Bomber
| Posted on Tuesday, February 17, 2004 - 09:02 am: |
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Brakes -- I'll second Rockets suggestion . . . that tool allowed me to bleed the 31 Ford's juice brake conversion is about 10 minutes (withi a break for a beer), instead of the entire weekend effort it had been previously . . .. . great tool, pays for itself if you pay yourself minimum wage while bleeding brakes (which, next to color sanding paint has got to be the worst job in the garage!) |
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Peter
| Posted on Tuesday, February 17, 2004 - 11:46 am: |
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Tom from Blackcat Racing, I have been trying to email you but I'm getting no reply again. Is your email working? |
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Andys
| Posted on Tuesday, February 17, 2004 - 12:03 pm: |
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Again, thanks everyone. It's nice to be with friends again. Pauli--what mail? Court and Henrik--we need to catch up & soon. Hans--I'm glad you're happy with the setup. I still do setups and still find it amazing how many people don't get it, even those who go to the racetrack. If I can be of any help... |
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Buelliedan
| Posted on Tuesday, February 17, 2004 - 12:48 pm: |
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Peter, Tom works for a Nascar team. As of last weekend he is going to be very busy all summer. I would expect it to be awhile beofre he can get to his home computer. |
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Firemanjim
| Posted on Tuesday, February 17, 2004 - 01:10 pm: |
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Off topic question,anyone have an in on Toyota parts as my local dealers are trying to make their yearly profit off of me.I need a dealer only part for my son's pickup?(I hate it when you can only get a part from the dealer!!!!!) |
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Stingaroo
| Posted on Tuesday, February 17, 2004 - 01:24 pm: |
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Fireman, What parts are you looking for? One of my dearest friends is a head mechanic at a Toyota dealership here in PA. Maybe we can try to help you. (It is a long way from CA, but maybe we can help!) Brian |
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Bluzm2
| Posted on Tuesday, February 17, 2004 - 01:44 pm: |
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All, I have a co-worker heading to a conference in New Orleans tomorrow. His conference and hotel is going to be right down in the thick of things for the Mardis Gras festivites. He's looking for a good Cajun type restraunt that's not totally tourist and within a reasonable distance (no car). A type place locals would go for good cuisine. Any suggestions? Yes he's bringing a camara! Thanks Brad
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Josh_
| Posted on Tuesday, February 17, 2004 - 02:32 pm: |
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speaking of places to see on vacation, if I were in Italy for a week or so in late May, what shouldn't I miss? We'll probably be in Florence, Rome and Venice for at least a day each. We'll also be in Spain (Madrid, Barcelona) and maybe Lisbon over a 2 week period. |