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Blackbelt
Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 01:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)
ok sorry about that... man you guys don't give a guy a chance do ya..... I have dedicated 14 years to martial arts.... but i have tough skin so say what you want.. i know i could kick all your asses w/o guns that is, but if you want to bring guns, i got ya there too.. hehehe .45 auto Rugar P90, 30/30 lever, 32 special lever, 2 12 gauge, .357 magnum, a plethera of .22's, and soon Bushmaster M4
hehehe

BRING IT ON!!! hehehe

ya know i am just foolin.. but if you want to sparr, i am all there man..
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Blackbelt
Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 01:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)
oh Teo, sorry about the pics man, the camera died on me... workin on fixin it..

but basically looks like Dyna's just not as clean cause i didn't have money to buy one, an AWESOME guy on here made me one.

but my lock is in the same spot.... did you still want a pic, of the inside maybe?
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M1combat
Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 01:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)
Do you grapple?
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Bads1
Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 03:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)
Blackbelt are ya coming to the homecoming???
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Blackbelt
Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 04:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)
maybe... why?

yes i do some grappling..

not much..

Dana what do you have on your mind? sick-o
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Bads1
Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 04:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)
I just thought you would be since Spidey is coming and he's crashing by me if he comes.So I thought you would be to.Post back to me on the homecoming is back thread.
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M1combat
Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 04:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)
You don't like to grapple do you? You feel like a fish out of water? Just kidding : ).

I wish I could make it to the homecoming.
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Eisanmann
Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 06:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)
...but 300 yard bullseye's are doable IMO although I never tried...

Maybe a 20'dia. bullseye on the side of a barn at 300yrds

If ya need a scatter-gun,get a real one!
SPAS 12

Hey,someone start a weapons thread. Ya know something like..
gunzzzzz
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Dynarider
Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 10:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)
yes i do some grappling..

not much..

Say Bobby, do you enjoy Gladiator movies?: D

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Richieg150
Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 11:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)
Eisaman,love to try shooting groups at 300,my savage 110 shoots dime sized groups on hand loaded ammo at 100.Shooting without a bench or bags.
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Nevco1
Posted on Friday, February 13, 2004 - 12:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)
Grapple...sounds like one of those "Fruit Things" the kids drink. LMAO
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Cyclonemick
Posted on Friday, February 13, 2004 - 02:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)
I guess if you don't have guns (which I do) A thumb to the eye will stop even the toughest of tough. A little move I learned studiying the art of Pancreation.(spelling?)
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Eisanmann
Posted on Friday, February 13, 2004 - 09:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)
Richieg150
Nice shootin'!
I was joking about the shotgun at 300 yrds.
As a shooter,you know the odds of even hitting a barn with a slug is slim at best

This was at Ft. Meade 1000meter range...
800 meters

With this...
Rem700litetactical

Thats at 800 meters,
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Blackbelt
Posted on Friday, February 13, 2004 - 11:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)
man this thread has gone WAY OFF TOPIC
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Spiderman
Posted on Friday, February 13, 2004 - 11:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)
One outa six hit dead on thats not good shootin ; )
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Eisanmann
Posted on Friday, February 13, 2004 - 11:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)
bite me
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Blackbelt
Posted on Friday, February 13, 2004 - 01:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)
forgive him... 800 yards, hitting the targe alone is a good shot in my book... especially since they are all within the outer circle... on on the bullseye isn't all too bad either.. now do that with a stock AR-15, with iron sights and i will be extremly impressed...

my friend did it at 650 yards, but he is active army, sharpshooter, so he kind of has to do that on a regular basis. that kind of shit is scary. 650 yards with no scope, hitting that target. RUN MAN RUN!!! NOPE!! BAM!
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Blackbelt
Posted on Friday, February 13, 2004 - 01:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)
and by the way isn't that a Spaz 12... i hope that isn't yours.. majorly illegal.. hehe but FUN AS HELL!
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Spiderman
Posted on Friday, February 13, 2004 - 01:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)
Hey it was a joke hence the ; )
ya know the little winky guy indicating a stab or joke at the other person
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Blackbelt
Posted on Friday, February 13, 2004 - 01:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)
and by the way isn't that a Spaz 12... i hope that isn't yours.. majorly illegal.. hehe but FUN AS HELL!
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M1combat
Posted on Friday, February 13, 2004 - 01:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)
Yeah, I don't think a Spaz 12 would hit a barn at 300 after the first shot... But try a Benelli, you WILL be amazed. I'd bet a pro could do it 3-4 times a second (the barn, not the bullseye : ))

Oh, and the benelli will put more rounds downrange than that Spaz in a given time, you just have to pull the trigger each time. plus you get all those neat benifits like being able to hot load and speed load and they weigh a lot less. All around better weapon if you ask me.
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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, February 15, 2004 - 02:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)
One bro in law has a 20 Ga. Bennelli, kicks harder than a 12 ga. pump w/slugs (in both). Beauty of a gun though, nice workmanship. My other bro in law has a Browning Gold Hunter. Makes 12 Ga. field loads kick like my Browning 20 ga. double. I'm not terribly recoil sensitive, but I'll take the advantage of a gas gun.

12 ga. saboted slugs out of a rifled barrel are good out to 200 yds ( Ithaca Deerslayer 3 is an excellent choice) but the trajectory looks like a rainbow @ 300. Doesn't mean you can't hit the target, the old 45-70 rifle does the same & you can hit a man sized target 700 yds away, but the aim point is well over!

My only complaint with the SPAS is it's real heavy, I'll take the Bennelli if I have to walk miles with one.

Good shooting on the 800 yd range! I can't even see the target out there w/out a scope. ( which is the reason I didn't buy the AR-50 when I could have got a deal )
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Swampy
Posted on Sunday, February 15, 2004 - 07:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)
Thats great shooting. My big kid was clanging the target at 500 meters with a crunchy trigger and an old SP1 upper using Wolf ammo off-hand last year. I guess his eyes are still good.


Blackbelt....you live in a swamp too? Anyplace close to mine?
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Eisanmann
Posted on Sunday, February 15, 2004 - 08:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)
...Whats the max. effective range of an M16?...300yrds?

Come on man! I'm sure there are others here that have qualified with an M16.

The Spas is heavy,at just under 10lbs. But you should try humpin' with the above weapon and associated gear! (about 64lbs.)

And if I'm going to "lobe" my rounds its going to be with a mortar}
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Noface
Posted on Sunday, February 15, 2004 - 10:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)
Been awhile since I was in the service, but I think the FM says M16 max effective range was like 400m or something.

It's more than 300 yards though.
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Unibear12r
Posted on Sunday, February 15, 2004 - 10:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)
I saw a tactical training problem a SWAT guy with a pumpable auto shotgun ran through once. Both very impressive.Is that a Benelli or Spaz? I'm used to just the usual pump Riot gun. Our old rangemaster thought it was fun for us to shoot clay doubles with them using 00buck.
I have shot silhouette and 500 meter offhand but my scores are nothing special. You guys have great skills.
I'm far better with a pistol and enjoy them the most but I'm not nearly as good as some I've trained with.
I know a guy who used to pull the trigger on one of the 16in. "rifles" on the Mighty Mo. Try as I might I don't think I'll ever match that.
I'ts a great hobby/sport.
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Court
Posted on Monday, February 16, 2004 - 05:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)
The talk I got at Edson Range (USMC) was that the M-16A1 was good for about 300M. Beyond that the ballistics of the .223 cartridge worked against it.

The M1 (I've never shot one) was the favored "long range" rifled tool of choice. The USMC had competitions at 1,000M with the M1.

Sounds funny now, but one of the things I was proudest of in the service was qualifying Expert with a perfect score at 300M in the rapid fire with the M16.

Court
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Shazam
Posted on Monday, February 16, 2004 - 03:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)
Court,

we knew you were an expert shootin' shit.
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Eisanmann
Posted on Monday, February 16, 2004 - 04:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)
...Sounds funny now..
Not from here,you know not many recruits attain this honor...
expert

Speaking of experts...
Hathcock

First time I meet this famous "Gunny" was at Camp Perry and then several times at Quantico.
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Mikej
Posted on Monday, February 16, 2004 - 05:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)
http://www.marinescoutsniper.com/sniper%20pages/Carlos.html

"White Feather"
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Daves
Posted on Monday, February 16, 2004 - 06:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)
Would not want him hunting me!

Ride to the edge!
Dave
Iowa HD/Buell (Buell Cycle Center)
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Eisanmann
Posted on Monday, February 16, 2004 - 07:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)
Its OK Dave, You would never know it

no see
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Cyclonemick
Posted on Monday, February 16, 2004 - 10:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)
Court, You can pick up a military M1 for a small price of $375 dollars if you qualify with one in a competition. Alot of gun clubs have cerirified matches. Definately worth the $375.
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Eisanmann
Posted on Monday, February 16, 2004 - 11:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)
I think he means the M1A1.
M14

Garand
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Cyclonemick
Posted on Tuesday, February 17, 2004 - 10:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)
Yeah! That's the ticket!
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