| Author |
Message |
    
Yankees11
| | Posted on Monday, January 07, 2013 - 10:55 pm: | 
|
Hello
Here's the issue...when cold starting my x1, I first have to hold the starter button for a few seconds to get it to fire up then it dies in a few seconds. It does that twice then the third time it starts up perfectly and runs like a dream thereafter. I have changed the plugs, wires, fuel filter...still same problem. Any insight will be appreciated. Thanks. |
Illbuellz
| | Posted on Monday, January 07, 2013 - 11:01 pm: |
|
i had a similar issue with my 00 x1. My only suggestion is that if you have ecmspy and the cable to richen up the idle squares in the lower left hand portion of the tables. Im not sure the cause i had changed all you mentioned plus injectors head temp sensor and o2 sensor. It seems the colder it is the harder it is to get goin sometimes i have to hold the throttle a bit too. |
Yankees11
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2013 - 01:15 am: |
|
did you mess with the actuall idle screw on the left side at all and get results? And no I dont have ecmspy...should I consider getting it remapped professionally? Did you get your bike to run right? |
Akbuell
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2013 - 09:56 am: |
|
I have an '01 X-1 that gets 'fussy' about starting when it hasn't been started in a while. A TPS reset cures the issue.
If it has been some time since your bike had a TPS reset, might try that first.
Getting ECMSpy for TPS resets and diagnostic help makes it a worthwhile addition to the tool box. Re-map at your own desire. And risk.
Dave |
Yankees11
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2013 - 02:44 pm: |
|
aprreciate the response...got up this morning to start it and now it wont keep running for more than a few seconds. im leaning towards a fuel problem now but still pretty lost |
Two_seasons
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2013 - 05:52 pm: |
|
o low battery voltage causes ECM issues, sensor issues---load test to check
o bad ground---check all of them
o faulty engine temp sensor---check for fraying where it comes out of the head. That's what I found, so I just replaced it. Took it to Philly. It ran like a new bike.
American Sport Bike has them if you need one. Sensor removal/installation tool is handy too. |
Illbuellz
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2013 - 10:14 pm: |
|
yes i did mess with the idle screw but after i did the above mentioned by two seasons(was a great help when i was in trouble) Definately check the battery charge and connections had a crank but not running issue resolved by that. Getting it remapped professionally can be tricky because you may have trouble finding someone who has experience with buells. Also the x1 is hard to tune only having one o2 sensor on the rear cylinder. The ecmspy and cable definately are worth their money to reset the afv and tps. The afv gives you a good idea of other problems you might have going on. |
Illbuellz
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2013 - 10:59 pm: |
|
to answer your other question yes i did get it running right eventually. I then did some other upgrades and used another members fuel map to compensate and now it runs faster than a raped ape. On the fuel note the culprit could be identified easier if you had the ecmspy. The bikes computer could be messing with your afv based on a number of possible issues ie. leaking intake seals, bad o2, or temp sensor. |
Yankees11
| | Posted on Friday, January 11, 2013 - 12:05 am: |
|
problem has been solved:
the 08 and older bikes dont need a computer to reset the tps. All I did was turn on the key put the kill switch in run and cycle the throttle 3x full open and full close then start the bike. |
Froggy
| | Posted on Friday, January 11, 2013 - 01:45 am: |
|
You got that backwards, the 08 and NEWER bikes don't need a computer to do the reset, 07 and older require it. By doing the 08 procedure you did nothing to resolve the issue, and it is a coincidence that it is running for now. |
Sparky
| | Posted on Friday, January 11, 2013 - 02:38 pm: |
|
Maybe it's coincidence but I'm thinking maybe not. Actually by turning the key on ignition and taking the time to do the (useless?) 08 reset procedure, there's probably enough current supplying the lights and run circuits to warm up the battery slightly enough to crank it once with authority, thus draining the battery less than by attempting two or more abortive starts. And with slightly more reserve in the battery, perhaps that's why it runs OK now? |
Yankees11
| | Posted on Thursday, February 07, 2013 - 02:22 am: |
|
Idk but it's been ok as of late....it still does the hard start but it does start every day. One new thing is that if I leave it running for five minutes or so then shut it off it won't start up. Im thinking since it won't start when it's hot that could be voltage regulator? |
Froggy
| | Posted on Thursday, February 07, 2013 - 08:37 am: |
|
That sounds like a battery issue.
The bike has a hard time starting initially due to a low charge, and sitting idle will not recharge it, so your hot restart means the battery is further depleted.
Charge the battery up, then take it to an auto parts store to have it load tested in addition to a voltage check. |
Mrsandman
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 19, 2013 - 08:42 pm: |
|
Agreed, definately check the battery out at an auto parts store and while you are at it check the main ground strap at the swing arm under the battery tray. That can be buggered up and cause some voltage depletion and cause a few buell sensors to go off. Once you've got the battery situated and checked your ground straps, keep an eye on the voltage and ride it again and check the voltage and be sure your not getting a voltage drop. |
Troubleshooting (Poor Starting/Running/Handling/Ride Issues) »
Archive through August 17, 2013 »
01 x1 lightning starting issues