| Author | Message | ||
     Bigevildoer |
Backstory: Going to track day tomorrow. Borrow trailer. Get trailer home, go to load up trailer with Suzi (my track bike) and move my Buell to the side of my truck in my shared driveway (townhouse). Buell is exactly in the middle of the driveway, splitting property line with neighbour's side. Was going to hop on it in about 5 minutes and go to the hospital to visit friend who just had angioplasty. Neighbour, just returns from walk with wife. Decides he needs milk. Instead of walking 1.5 minutes (literally) to the convenience store, he decides to drive his van. I'm in the process of closing the ramp on the trailer. 5 minutes from leaving. Neighbour has a heavy foot when leaving... every day.... never just in gear and ease out.. In gear, gas on... Can't see over his overly large baby seat. Whammo. Smokes the Buell into my truck. Rear quarter panel behind the passenger door dented in about 6 inches, paint scraped off by bar end mirrors on Babs (Buell). Lift her off the truck and onto the side stand. Push out the deep dent in the truck, but there's still a 6 inch "crease" which I can't push out. Look at the bike... big puddle of fluid under her... *SON OF A B$TCH!!* Have a look at the right side... the rear set is hanging off, rear brake fluid dumped on the driveway... Not bad, hose came undone.. easy fix... Look closer... the lower bolt of the right side rear set has broken the mount point clean off the engine into multiple pieces. The upper bolt has been pulled from the mount, pulling at least 4 thread turns out completely... AAAARRGGHHHH!!!!!!! Anyone know if the bottom of the engine can be aluminum welded????? Thinking it has to have the remaining thread hole filled in, have more built up to approximate original size and ground down to shape and retapped. | ||
| Sprintst |
Post some pics when you can, it will help the evaluation. Engine case breakage is never good, they are designed to take a lot of stress | ||
| Crowley |
Most stuff can be welded but I'd imagine the motor will have to be stripped, so the area can be prepped carefully and allow room for a Tig torch to get 'at it'. If the welder is skilled, then it can be as strong as new. Here's some ally welding I did yesterday on my TY trials bike, plenty strong enough, and I'm just an enthusiastic bodger. For c/cases, you'll have the worry of heat distortion, so go to a professional (not someone like me  )  | ||
| Albert666 |
pics will help but as crowley say most things can be welded, we weld a lot of engine/gearbox cases at work but they are always stripped. i do remember a long time ago a notorious car dealer bought a car in and asked us to weld the top of two pistons where the cam belt snapped and the valves hit the pistons, we welded it and ground it flush, all in situ, he cleaned it out, rebuilt it and put it up for sale!!! | ||
| Nuts4mc |
buy another engine on ebay - install it while you strip the original motor ...or piece out the original motor and sell on ebay | ||
| Iamarchangel |
How is neighbour's insurance? Or his neighbourly goodwill? This is why he buys insurance. Hoping he did buy insurance. | ||
| Bigevildoer |
Update... Talked to neighbour today. Told him there's a chance that the bike may be kaput (if that's what an adjuster says.. it is a critical component after all). New motor, labour, $4K. Bike is worth $6K. He freaked out. Threatened to call the police etc etc. I told him I would be pleased if he did. So, 12 years of great neighbourly relations are shot all to hell. Tig welding really depends on the engine alloy - is it aluminum or magnesium? Magnesium apparently is crazy difficult, much more so than Aluminum or stainless... At any rate, here are pics...    | ||
| Bigevildoer |
Oh yeah... I ended up calling the insurance after his rant today. Going to the collision reporting centre tomorrow. Adjuster supposed to give me a call on Monday. | ||
| Albert666 |
magnesium alloys are no more difficult to weld than regular aluminium alloys providing you have the correct wire etc, i've welded a few gsxr blocks and castings this year looking at your pics, i'd have no concerns about doing it | ||
| Crowley |
The spare motor for my 1947 JAP race bike has Magnesium crankcases, and at sometime in the past, the magneto mount has been broken off. It has successfully been welded back on again (not by me  ) | ||
| Srosenquist |
how the insurance turn out? kinda gray but even if you parked in his way, law should be pretty clear about hitting inanimate objects | ||
| Bigevildoer |
Went to the collision reporting centre this morning. Made report. Officer said I wasn't illegally parked. Brought report number to neighbour, and he freaked out again.. Insurance adjuster supposed to call me on Monday to arrange a viewing of damage etc. | ||
| Boogiman1981 |
Geeze what a pain. | ||
| Bigevildoer |
Huge pain for sure.. Collision reporting centre deemed that the bike was not illegally parked. Did some more digging on the net... found some Ontario insurance law stuff... 4. (1) If more than one rule applies with respect to the insured, the rule that attributes the least degree of fault to the insured shall be deemed to be the only rule that applies in the circumstances. 5. (1) If an incident is not described in any of these rules, the degree of fault of the insured shall be determined in accordance with the ordinary rules of law 19. The driver of automobile “A” is 100 per cent at fault and the driver of automobile “B” is not at fault for an incident that occurs, (a) when automobile “A” is backing up; Using that logic: 1) collision reporting centre said the motorcycle was not illegally parked. 2) insurance laws say claimant should receive least amount of fault (Rule 4) 3) van was backing up Therefore: van should shoulder 100% fault (Rule 19). IF it's a perfect world, of course... | ||
| Bigevildoer |
And now the neighbour's being ridiculously petty.. Just hacked off the creeper growing on our fence and threw all the trimmings into my back yard... Eeesh... | ||
| Srosenquist |
good fences make great neighbors | ||
| Bigevildoer |
And the drama continues... Come home today to big chalk lines on the driveway indicating "MY PROPERTY", "DAUGHTER'S PLAYGROUND" (even though he fenced in the entire back yard specifically so his daughter could play in it and be safer from street traffic etc.) and "MOTORCYCLE" complete with arrows... the arrow to the Motorcycle points to a big filled in circle overtop of where the rear brake leaked out at least half way after I picked the bike up and moved it over so I could inspect the damage to my truck.... (Message edited by bigevildoer on August 27, 2012) | ||
| Boogiman1981 |
real winner youve got there... | ||
| Sprintst |
He freaked out. Threatened to call the police etc etc. I told him I would be pleased if he did. What a ••••••••• You should have pulled out the cell phone and made the call, it's obvious he's not going to own up to this } Have no contact with him, and if he's going on your property to make chalk lines you have an issue He's going to lawyer up and put all the blame on you. I guess your bike was doing 90 mph into the bed of the truck and him him At this point, why get a so so weld job? It's going to be a fight regardless, get it fixed right or replaced (Message edited by sprintst on August 27, 2012) | ||
| Bigevildoer |
Yeah, I should have made the call to the cops at the time to settle it then and there. Hindsight is always 20/20 I guess. I am not having any contact whatsoever. Last contact was giving the police officer's business card who took the report to them, because it had the occurance number on it. Freaked out all over again. Chalk lines and markings are on his side of the driveway. I just find them amusing. Was considering drawing a chalk outline of my Buell on the driveway with an arrow and "Motorcycle Homicide" on it. But, that would lower me to his level.. Just took pictures instead. Now I will be pushing for a motor replacement. I've had enough of the crap already. Chances are they'll total my 1125r at the point, but I might be able to do a decent buy back for turning it into track use (once a bike is totalled in Ontario for any reason it can never be road legal again, even if it was only cosmetic damage). Lawyering at the point is just dumb. Would cost even more than deductible etc. | ||
| Iamarchangel |
Waterloo? Get it to Rocky's, they'll be happy to help out the insurance people. Your guess is right as far as I know, the moving vehicle is the one at fault. However, it's private property, not highway, but that shouldn't change much. Still duty of care. (Not legal advice, I can't do that until after October, God-willing.) btw, great pics of Scotland. I can see the street I was born on in Edinburgh and the pics of St. Andrew's could be where my mom was born. | ||
| Bigevildoer |
Hey Iamarchangel... Yeah, Waterloo.. Been to Rocky's a few times but wasn't too impressed - had the worse experiences at Jacox in Mississauga so I'll never go back there again. Good luck on your bar exam in October! Scotland was way cool. Really enjoyed the trip and would go back in a heart beat. | ||
| Iamarchangel |
I'm more familiar with Rocky's in London. This is the kind of thing where I'd trust them completely. It's the same company. I understand your comment. Ask for Jeff Duncan's help. I think he's one of the owners and he's usually at that store. He's a good guy and has a 1125r so he's going to be sympathetic. | ||
| Srosenquist |
priviate proporty doesnt matter, let say your walking down a side walk stumble into someones private driveway and pause for a few seconds as you take a drag on your perscribed inhaler, the owner subsequentlly runs you over, he cant exactlly say too bad its private property Anyway lawyer shouldnt be needed, just ignore him and let your ins deal with it, they will get their money from the at fault party trust me, chalk was funny, and i would have done the bike homicide outline | ||
| Iamarchangel |
Like I said, private property won't change much. He's liable whether house or vehicle pay for it. He's just not likely to face any driving charges. Of course, lawyers are needed, you just won't see them. The insurance companies will employ them. And, small claims court might be an option if you're not happy with the insurance outcome, or even if you are. | ||
| Russmannnn |
Pushing for a motor replacement would be very interesting and if that's the case I'm sure it will be totaled. The only reason I say that is I some how managed to get a 2010 crate motor when my 2008 went out under extended warranty. Harley did everything they could to not give me one but the dealer was able to get one. There reason was they was only a handful on new creat motors left and that they needed to be kept for the few buells still under factory warranty. As for the bill it cost $6384.00 to get the new motor and get it installed. What ever they say DO NOT put a used motor in your bike! Good luck Russell | ||
| Bigevildoer |
Thanks Russell... I wasn't expecting a price that's quite THAT high.. ouch... Thanks for the info!!! | ||
| Ridenusa4l |
you could get a motor from EBR if they still have any, and it would be cheaper i believe...after labor cost when i got a new engine a couple years back it was around 7500 or so...yay warranty! cost be 50$  lol Good Luck man! Jake | ||
| Russmannnn |
Ya I email EBR to see if they had any motors and they told me that they dident have any 3 months ago when I had to have mine replaced. | ||
| Bigevildoer |
Tried EBR. No dice. Can't sell to customers. Oh well. Just got off the phone with the adjuster. Appointment for damage viewing on Friday at 1pm. |
