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Natexlh1000
| Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2012 - 11:44 am: |
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Another thing I was thinking along the same lines as Rat above: These things have single fire ignitions. Is it possible the plug wires are swapped? Intake and exhaust leaks make them run crappy. not usually stopping it from running all together. One more fun fact: Oxygen sensors don't do anything at all until they are hot. So unless the engine has been running for a few minutes, the computer doesn't even pay attention to it. |
Oldog
| Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2012 - 11:44 am: |
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wack what have your checked and replaced as FMJ has indicated you have a serious lean condition in the system. did the PO mess with the ecm? |
Wack01
| Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2012 - 12:01 pm: |
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I dont know if the prior owner messed with ecm Check list injectors clean and with ohms values 02 sensor in specs MAS sensor check Pump checked by dealer prior owner 40psi+ TPS reset 4.6 =degree 5.1% +/- .5 Coil connected right |
Wack01
| Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2012 - 12:03 pm: |
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Wack01
| Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2012 - 12:05 pm: |
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AFV was at 150 before I changed It, I heading over to haborfreight to buy SAE Hex bits, I have all metric tools (Message edited by wack01 on August 16, 2012) |
Wack01
| Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2012 - 03:09 pm: |
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I think timing off http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ybnWkXb-DA&feature =youtu.be |
Wack01
| Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2012 - 03:13 pm: |
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Oh when I pulled the plugs they were soaked in fuel. One more thing don't forget to plug inspection hole before messing with other problems make a big mess Shit more stains on my floor |
Oldog
| Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2012 - 05:52 pm: |
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MAS sensor check did you mean BAS [ bank angle sensor ] no current codes on the posted page plugs wet OK too much fuel injector check remove the intake air box cover so you can see into the throat of the tb. cycle the run switch / key on off 5 or 6 times to run and stop the fuel pump check for raw gas in the inlet, if present injector problem... I presume you have and have checked for spark I presume that you have checked compression were did you get the Ohms meter spec for the o2 sensor? what was the reading? static timing can be checked carefully using ecm spy } |
Wack01
| Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2012 - 06:24 pm: |
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sorry intel temp sensor Used to calling it mass airflow sensor. Did the throttle body check injectors NOT leaking. Have spark have compression Made video of static timing it's on youtube. It looks to be advanced any thoughts |
01x1buell
| Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2012 - 06:27 pm: |
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i would agree it does look to be advanced. |
Wack01
| Posted on Friday, August 17, 2012 - 02:24 pm: |
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Today I reset the timing with ecmspy and a voltmeter. It's centered and at 5vdc Quick question is TDC set off the front or back cylinder manual not specific? I checked the fuel pump pressure myself just to confirm what the dealer told the prior owner. It's at 46 psi it probably higher, but I have a cheap gauge that leaks. Checked for spark again I have it reset tps this time at 5.6% set spark gap at 38 check intake/exhaust leaks I going to enrich the fuel map and see what happens |
Wack01
| Posted on Friday, August 17, 2012 - 03:07 pm: |
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Well I think I found my problem my coil is out of ohm spec Primary resistance (1) is 2.5 ohms should read 0.5-0.7 ohms Secondary resistance(2) is 12.5kohms should be 5.5-7.5K Now time to search the internet for a used one. |
Harleyelf
| Posted on Friday, August 17, 2012 - 04:27 pm: |
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PM me. I have the coil from my '99 S3. I converted to dual-fire when I installed my carburetor. |
Wack01
| Posted on Friday, August 17, 2012 - 04:51 pm: |
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I just brought one on ebay 30bucks sorry thanks though |
Wack01
| Posted on Tuesday, August 21, 2012 - 12:43 am: |
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Got my replacement coil still failing, I going to replace the Cam position sensor next, it melted so it's possibly bad.
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Oldog
| Posted on Tuesday, August 21, 2012 - 11:08 am: |
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that makes sense good catch, wierd that the coil would be that far out of spec and still delivering good spark. |
Buellistic
| Posted on Tuesday, August 21, 2012 - 12:12 pm: |
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Oldog: That is why this electrical/computer stiff is call "FM" !!! |
Kalali
| Posted on Tuesday, August 21, 2012 - 10:09 pm: |
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Your fuel map is also too lean compared to my X1 with an V&H. But I don't think that is the root of your issue. You should load Race maps once you get your cam position sensor issue sorted out. |
Oldog
| Posted on Wednesday, August 22, 2012 - 11:39 am: |
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That is why this electrical/computer stiff is call "FM" !!! LOL! some days its called worse here, and I work with it...} |
Wack01
| Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 - 06:10 pm: |
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Thanks Kalali could you possibly upload you fuel map txt file? |
Wack01
| Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 - 06:11 pm: |
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Also does anybody know if timing is off TDC for front cylinder or rear |
01x1buell
| Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 - 06:57 pm: |
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i believe that the timing mark is for the front cylinder. |
Two_seasons
| Posted on Friday, August 24, 2012 - 12:16 am: |
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Static timing is done off the front cylinder. Make sure you come to the TDC mark. Plugs out, 5th gear, rotate rear wheel in CCW direction until you see the intake valve (front cyl, so you are standing/sitting on left side of bike) open and close, as viewed through spark plug hole. Now rotate rear wheel until front timing mark is centered in timing inspection hole. Loosen two screws on CPS, cam position sensor. Rotate the sensor CW until you see the 0/5 on ECMspy turn to a solid 5. Make sure your "keys" are on in the ECMspy program. Tighten both screws on the CPS to 15-30 inch pounds To all electronic gurus, that would be "PFM" as I remember it from my USN days. |
Wack01
| Posted on Saturday, August 25, 2012 - 02:48 pm: |
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well I got the cps installed no luck still does anybody have a stock eeprom for n0306.0 99243 / us15ja120 bfius1 (Message edited by wack01 on August 25, 2012) |
01x1buell
| Posted on Saturday, August 25, 2012 - 04:25 pm: |
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i have the same ecu let me look to see if i have stock eeprom in my laptop |
01x1buell
| Posted on Saturday, August 25, 2012 - 04:30 pm: |
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00 00 00 00 32 41 71 04 79 00 5D 00 10 01 F4 01 F4 01 56 00 6B 01 52 03 37 64 73 55 0C 00 14 14 00 2D F0 4F FF 00 14 64 32 64 64 64 0A 0A 19 01 0C 50 1B 28 32 14 88 0A 1B 00 1C 13 28 13 3C 13 5F 03 1B A0 28 28 14 A5 64 A5 7E 04 28 69 66 69 C8 64 FF 62 46 05 1B 00 3E 64 C8 FF 78 64 6E 73 14 05 1E 1E 1A 04 6C 02 D4 03 A4 06 FC 03 34 08 1A 04 C4 09 38 04 2C 01 08 07 6C 02 46 05 1A 04 24 04 A4 06 FC 03 34 08 DE 03 C4 09 C0 03 B8 0B 4C 04 52 03 00 00 E4 0C 2A 00 C4 09 51 00 34 08 9F 00 A4 06 BB 01 20 03 E3 01 F4 01 E8 01 90 01 00 00 7E 04 D6 01 29 04 8A 02 E8 03 84 03 BB 03 B0 04 8E 03 78 05 70 03 72 06 61 03 31 00 72 06 56 00 78 05 8C 00 B0 04 35 01 20 03 8A 01 58 02 C5 01 90 01 E3 01 C8 00 00 00 40 06 58 02 E2 04 E8 03 84 03 B0 04 58 02 78 05 FA 00 40 06 00 00 Reihe: 2 0C 30 18 33 3C 5D 46 60 0C 1B 18 1B 1B 1B 22 1C 28 1E 2F 1F 35 21 3C 23 46 2A 03 03 19 00 32 00 D0 07 F4 01 15 00 DC 05 26 02 1D 04 B6 03 C4 09 7E 04 23 2F 28 2F 3C 42 46 45 23 24 28 24 2D 24 32 25 37 27 3C 2A 46 2D 28 1E 0A 03 0A 03 32 07 64 CD 91 CD FF CD 0F CD 1B CD 2D CD F4 01 27 00 28 64 3E 3C 96 00 64 00 A0 04 C8 0C FA 18 58 00 DC 05 40 06 8C 0A F0 0A 00 3C 3C 00 00 00 00 00 00 1A 2A 00 00 0D 15 00 EE BB 55 AA 90 1A 2C 1A F4 1A C2 1A 58 1B 26 1B 9C 18 64 19 00 19 0E 12 37 32 46 3C 69 69 37 32 32 64 F2 03 64 00 2C 01 C4 09 0F 1E FF 64 FE 02 D2 FA 05 BE 64 64 00 02 00 01 67 01 0A 02 64 12 02 64 12 01 64 64 D2 88 0C 64 03 01 01 05 01 7F FF FF DE 4A 4A FF FF 8C 63 4B 3C 33 2C 26 21 1E 14 14 14 14 0A 14 1E 2D 3C 50 64 7D AF FF F4 1A 90 1A 2C 1A 70 17 7C 15 Reihe: 3 AC 0D D0 07 DC 05 B0 04 58 02 0A 14 1E 28 32 3C 46 50 64 7D AF FF 4C 1D 58 1B 70 17 88 13 A0 0F B8 0B C4 09 D0 07 DC 05 B0 04 E8 03 20 03 00 00 Reihe: 4 64 64 B4 B4 B4 B4 78 28 0C 0C 64 64 B4 B4 B4 82 60 14 0C 0C 64 64 B4 A4 A0 78 50 50 3C 28 64 64 A4 9C 94 68 44 34 20 28 64 64 90 8C 84 54 34 18 10 14 64 64 88 84 7C 4C 28 10 0C 00 64 64 70 78 74 44 28 10 0C 00 64 64 6C 74 64 48 30 10 0C 00 64 64 6C 74 60 50 40 10 0C 00 64 64 6C 74 60 54 48 10 0C 00 64 64 B4 B4 B4 B4 78 28 0C 0C 64 64 B4 B4 B4 82 60 14 0C 0C 64 64 B4 A4 A0 78 50 50 3C 28 64 64 A4 9C 94 68 44 34 20 28 64 64 90 8C 84 54 34 18 10 14 64 64 88 84 7C 4C 28 10 0C 00 64 64 70 78 74 44 28 10 0C 00 64 64 6C 74 64 48 30 10 0C 00 64 64 6C 74 60 50 40 10 0C 00 64 64 6C 74 60 54 48 10 0C 00 14 14 14 14 14 14 18 16 1E 2E 3B 3F 40 1E 1E 1E 1E 20 24 27 2B 35 3C 41 45 46 1E 1E 1E 26 2A 34 43 48 5E 6E 6E 6E 6E 24 24 26 30 3B 4C 5C 5D 63 78 82 82 82 2B 2B 35 3C Reihe: 5 4D 5E 6B 6D 77 82 82 82 82 44 44 46 4B 5C 73 75 7B 8C 91 82 8C 8C 58 58 5C 5F 64 7E 8A 95 8E 9D 87 8C 8C 6A 6A 6B 6B 6B 84 9B A1 A1 A1 8C 8C 8C 87 87 87 7D 7D A0 B4 BB AA 9D 96 8C 8C 9B 9B 9B 9B 87 AF C8 D5 B9 AB 96 8C 8C CD CD CD B4 9C B9 D9 D9 B9 AB A1 91 91 F3 F3 F3 D6 AA B9 D9 F3 C3 AB A5 91 91 19 19 19 19 19 19 13 13 15 2C 34 39 3A 1E 1E 1E 1E 1E 1E 25 2A 32 37 3C 41 43 1E 1E 1E 26 25 33 33 38 53 64 69 69 69 25 25 2C 31 35 4A 50 51 5F 91 8C 91 91 30 30 37 37 47 5A 66 67 7C 99 B4 B4 B4 3C 3C 3C 4B 5A 69 7A 7D 95 B4 B4 B4 B4 51 51 57 61 6C 83 8A 98 96 B3 B4 B4 B4 66 66 66 6B 7C 94 9A A7 A5 A2 B4 B4 B4 84 84 81 86 91 B8 CC B3 AA A2 B4 B4 B4 A0 A0 A8 A0 A5 CE DC D2 C8 C8 B4 B4 B4 C8 C8 C8 C3 BA DC F5 D2 D7 D7 B4 B4 B4 E9 E9 E9 D9 BD E1 F5 DA DC DF B4 B4 B4 |
01x1buell
| Posted on Saturday, August 25, 2012 - 04:31 pm: |
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i am pretty dumb when it comes to computers so that is the only way i know how to put it on here,, when i look at my ecm it says BFIUS1 on it and this is the stock eeprom, i hope i was able to help u. |
Wack01
| Posted on Saturday, August 25, 2012 - 04:54 pm: |
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It should but at work now won't be able to test it out. Also to save your eeprom connect to bike make sure you're "live/key symbol" click eeprom tab click fetch eeprom on top bar click file save epprom Save the eeprom.txt somewhere easy like desktop now on forum just use the upload attachment button Thanks again |
Wack01
| Posted on Saturday, August 25, 2012 - 10:44 pm: |
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micron exhaust w1200 |
Wack01
| Posted on Sunday, August 26, 2012 - 02:11 am: |
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Thanks 01x1buell It loads to ecmspy with slight edit you were missing the top text I substituted with mine BUEJA120 05-27-99 Reihe: 1 Could you list your firmware version it listed in the eeprom tab once you upload |