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     Bads1 |
I'll bet not though..... it wouldn't make sense to do so. There name is there on the factory team. Monster wouldn't benefit at all by throwing dollars at another team with less backing to begin with. I guess will have to see what may surface. Silly season!! | ||
| Smoke |
riding the silver S2 to Indianapolis early early thursday morning. 14 hr riding time, probably 17 with stops and eats. 900 ish miles. see you there! tim | ||
| Jaimec |
I'll be there as usual on my 1999 K1200LT. Leaving tomorrow morning and overnighting in the perfect stop-over town of Washington, PA... where we can have dinner at Cracker Barrel, and breakfast at Waffle House! | ||
| Trojan |
Any reason there couldn't be a "Monster Tech3" AND a "Monster Yamaha" team in the paddock? Can't see it happening either. Monster will sponsor one or the other, but not both. I have also heard that Rossi may bring San Carlo money to Yamaha in addition to Monster, which could then strip Gresini Honda of their main sponsor as well  | ||
| Noone1569 |
If you're coming into Indy for the MotoGP, we are having a BuelBQ on Saturday around 3:00 and on. Lots of bikes, people, etc hopefully. Did this last year and had a good turn out. PM me for the address! | ||
| Jaimec |
There were also rumors of Rossi reuniting Yamaha with their old sponsor Marlboro, too. | ||
| Trojan |
There were also rumors of Rossi reuniting Yamaha with their old sponsor Marlboro, too I think that was pretty much scotched because of the sheer dificulty of introducing tobacco sponsorship to another team in Europe. The regulators are quite happy with teh status quo and Marlboro have a subliminal presence at Ducati. If they try to move to Yamaha the regulators would make it difficult and they would have to find a way of promoting their brand while being unable to use any branding! A plain red Yamaha would not have the same subliminal advertising message as a plain red Ducati/Ferrari that we are used to and associate with Marlboro already. So Marlboro are pretty much stuck with Ducati for the forseeable future until they leave MotoGp altogether. | ||
| Jaimec |
    Just sayin'... | ||
| Trojan |
But you cannot have any cigarette branding any more, so the iconic Marlboro colours (or any other tobacco related products and logos) would no longer be allowed regardless of team. It is only because Marlboro have been involved with Ducati for years that the regulators tend to leave them alone, provided there is no branding on the bikes. People just associate Marlboro with Ducati and Ferrari becuae of tradition and years of association rather than 'in your face' branding. However......if Marlboro tried to move their support to another team they would be met by hostility from the advertising watchdogs in Europe and it would be made very difficult for them to continue their support even in the subdued colours they now use. Ducati and Marlboro are pretty much stuck with each other until one of them retires..... | ||
| Xb1125r |
ducati and marlboro are not tied to anything. a honda or yamaha would paint their bikes red and white for sponsorship, but then again have you seen how chain smokers italians are. kids 12 and up already smoking italy. you cant lose that business of future addicts | ||
| Bads1 |
ducati and marlboro are not tied to anything Ummm I'm not following you. Yes they are Phillip Morris has been there main sponsor. | ||
| Simond |
Great quotes from Stoner this week. I still struggle to warm to him but you have to say he has a point: "Jerry [said] that it would take him 80 seconds to fix that bike and that it was a simple issue and now they have had almost two years and have not made any inroads. "Valentino obviously doesn't want to push limits and ride a bike that is not perfect, he has admitted that." Stoner added: "I just feel completely sorry for Ducati that Valentino has gone there and done nothing but complain about the bike for almost two years."} For all his whining and moaning he's great to watch on a bike. His win on the Duc in the wet at Donington a few years ago was one of the few times I could watch a rider circulate on his own and be thoroughly entertained. | ||
| Trojan |
Stoner has already announced his retirement, and Ithink he might do it with at least a little dignity...but no. It appears that he still wants to take every opportunity to moan and snipe at Rossi and everyone else who he has to share the track with. Stoner conveniently forgets how much he constantly moaned about Ducati when he was there, and how he jumped ship to Honda because he thouht they weren't listening to what he wanted. The sooner he leaves the better. | ||
| Xb1125r |
Stoner is right and good for him for telling it how it is. MotoGP without Stoner will be racing with lesser quality riders. Rossi has no self respect after leaving yamaha and bad mouthing them he bends over and goes back. no self respect | ||
| Gaesati |
nice pic of Wayne Rainey, Jaimec. The first time I ever saw him was in 1990 (?) in the warm-up at Eastern Creek in the run between turns 5,6 and 7.He was a revelation. I was awestruck. It was one of those moments one remembers vividly even twenty years later. | ||
| Rocketsprink |
yeah because riders don't switch teams that will either give them more money or a better shot at winning. Kinda like how pro football, baseball and basketball players here stick with their first team, never badmouth them, leave and come back again if the money is better or they have a better chance of winning.Sorry xb1125r but the above comment is really just ignorant. the grass is always greener applies to everything. And if Stoner is/was such a loyal, great rider, why leave the team that gave you a world title? Oh yeah, the whole $$$$$$$$$ and better opportunity thing again. | ||
| Simond |
Stoner has already announced his retirement, and I think he might do it with at least a little dignity...but no. You didn't really think he'd do that did you Matt?  If I never heard him speak I'd be a fan but he still sounds and behaves like a spoilt child. Hardly surprising considering the way he has got to where he is but a shame as his riding is a joy to watch. It will be interesting to see how Rossi manages next year - I'm sure if he struggles against Lorenzo he won't be seeing out the two year contract. I suspect that the elbows will be out at the beginning of the season! | ||
| Jaimec |
Well, we're here in Indianapolis... and it's POURING. Forecast for the next three days look a lot more promising though. | ||
| Trojan |
MotoGP without Stoner will be racing with lesser quality riders. Rossi has no self respect after leaving yamaha and bad mouthing them he bends over and goes back. Utter rubbish....Rossi didn't badmouth Yamaha when he left. In fact he heaped praise on them. If you really think that Rossi, Lorenzo, Pedrosa etc are lesser quality riders than Stoner you are watching the wrong sport (in fact I don't think you have been watching MotoGP at all!). Stoner won one world championship for Ducati, simply because Ducati had the best bike/tyre combination at the start of the 800 era. Since that time Stoners performances got worse every year until he left Ducati and joined Honda. During his time at Ducati and afterwards Stoner criticised Ducati publicly at virtually every opportunity. Now he snipes at Rossi for changing teams to be more competitive? Look in the mirror Casey Next season looks like being the best for years Rossi back on competitive machinery, Bradley Smith, Scott Redding and Cal Crutchlow flying the flag for team GB and Stoner gone....what is there not to like? | ||
| Crusty |
It would be nice if Stoner takes the Rat Weasel with him when he leaves... | ||
| Jaimec |
One thing Casey HAS managed to do (for me): Made Pedrosa look like a more likable character. | ||
| Gaesati |
Sad...sad.....sad...how mean spirited of you. | ||
| Jaimec |
I swear, I'm almost ready to believe someone is intentionally sabotaging Ben Spies this season. Unbelievable!!! | ||
| Dennis_c |
1569 good seeing all of you again thanks for the good food and good time. I missed you in the center of town I wander why ha ha. I hope to see you before next July | ||
| Jaimec |
1569: Sorry I didn't make it this year. We stayed at the track to watch the tractor races. | ||
| Xb1125r |
what stoner has done(for me) proved that Rossi is not at the level of Stoner. have you all forgotten how Rossi and team claimed how with minor changes they would be running at the top.(making it sound as Stoner was not the reason why ducati was winning.) I love it Rossi running back to yamaha with the tail between his legs. Crutchlo has to be pissed becuase no he is not going to the factory team. I would love to see Dovi go to ducati. he is not a cry baby, he would adopt to the bike | ||
| Trojan |
what stoner has done(for me) proved that Rossi is not at the level of Stoner. I would love to see Dovi go to ducati. he is not a cry baby, he would adopt to the bike What a load of old tosh! I do wonder if you watch the same sport as the rest of us sometimes. Dovi will probably end his career at Ducati (or Ducati will end his career to ne more precise). Have you forgotten all the other top level riders who have failed to win on the Ducati? Melandri, Gibernau adn Rossi were all probably better riders than Dovi and all have had to admit defeat on that bike. Even Stoner didn't win much in his last year on the red bike and if he had stayed he would be in the same position as Hayden and Rossi now. i.e struggling badly. He jumped ship to Honda before he suffered more embarressment though. Dovi is very much a '250 style' front end rider in the same mould as Melandri and Rossi, so he will certainly struggle unless they make some substantial changes to the bike over the winter. I am very glad that Crutchlow hasn't got the factory Ducati ride though, as I am sure it would have proved a difficult bike for him too (although I think he would have done better than Dovi will on it just because his style suits it better). Hopefully he will stay at Tech 3 for another year and cement his position there. There are after all much worse bikes to be riding right now  | ||
| Xb1125r |
first of all i do remember and surprises me that you even put guverno and melandri in the same boat with stoner and rossi. melandri is getting his butt spanked by biaggi in sbk,lol rossi he has proven his time is past and all his fans need to realize the facts and stop leaving on the cloud (Message edited by xb1125r on August 21, 2012) | ||
| Trojan |
i do remember and surprises me that you even put guverno and melandri in the same boat with stoner and rossi. melandri is getting his butt spanked by biaggi in sbk,lol rossi he has proven his time is past and all his fans need to realize the facts and stop leaving on the cloud That's it, you definitely don't watch the same racing as me. Who is guverno when he is at home? And do you really tink that Melandri is getting his arse spanked by Biaggi? When did you last watch a WSB race? Both Gibernau and Melandri won GP races on Hondas, so are not exactly slouches or bad riders. Both couldn't get a sniff of the podium when they rode for Ducati and both ended their GP careers because of that. Gibernau through injury and poor performance and Melandri simply through poor results alone. If you think that any other rider can jump on the current Ducati and do any better than Rossi has done you are mistaken my friend. | ||
| Xb1125r |
you get the UK version, we get the US version were those 2 annoying brittish reported have orgasms everytime chrutchlow gets in the top 5,lol |
