| Author | Message | ||
     Baybueller |
MyXB9S was warming up on slight downgrade when I heard the thud.(very minor damage).I have owned 4 decades of Harleys that all had locking sidestands so this was an unpleasant suprise. Something to keep in mind. | ||
| Bradj |
It was ready to go and tired of waiting on you!  | ||
| Darthane |
Umm...why was it parked nose down on a hill in the first place? Anyways, do you have the updated kickstand on your bike? I had thought that all XB9S's did, but I could be wrong about that. | ||
| Thepup |
it has happened to me twice,told by service dept. that you should never leave your bike idling without being on it | ||
| Spyder12s |
Updated ?.. Did I miss something ? | ||
| Baybueller |
Umm...why was it parked nose down on a hill in the first place? Because for the last 20 bikes I have owned it was not an issue | ||
| Darthane |
Spyder, nothing to worry about. Only the earlier 9Rs had the 'problem' kickstand (or those like me who had steadfastly avoided getting the new one). All 2004s have the updated one, and I'm pretty sure all 9Ss have them, period. As for parking a bike nose down a hill - that's just tempting fate too much for me, locking kickstand or no. Learned your lesson, though, didn't ya? It's ridiculous to have to stand by your bike while it warms up - I still have the original kickstand, the one that caused all the hubbub in the first place, and it's never walked off it on level pavement...and I rarely pay the slightest bit of attention to it while it's warming. | ||
| Lake_bueller |
I don't have an XB but my S3 & S1 both have a "walking" problem. I learned the hard way that you need to be very conscious of where you leave an idling bike. | ||
| Hardluckxb |
try exorcism | ||
| Hardluckxb |
sounds like you got some demons lake | ||
| Dynarider |
Lake is right, the tubers walk also. I know with my X1 it will dance all over the driveway. Kinda funny to rev it up a bit & watch the whole damn bike scoot back about 7-8". | ||
| Lake_bueller |
Dyna....shouldn't you be say "my X1 would dance"  | ||
| Dynarider |
Actually "used to dance" would be better  | ||
| Gonen60 |
imagine if you lived in san fransico with all the hills..having a bike or stick shift car must really stink, when parking or starting off at a light. | ||
| Nevco1 |
Dyna...Don't feel bad. My X1 still dances on the driveway. Funny thing is on the flat concrete, it dances backwards and leave a jagged scratch. Needless to say, there is no way I would leave the thing idling unattended or on a down hill slope if I weren't on it. Incidentally the Wide Glide doesn't dance. Believe this is due to the smoother running engine (read: not cammed up like a Buell) and greater angle (read: more weight) on the side stand. Gonen...What you described in San Francisco only smells if you or the bonehead in front of you is STONED!!! | ||
| Gonen60 |
Or it's a 16 year old girl, who just got back from the DMV | ||
| Jim_witt |
I thought that's what the rubber stop was for on the bottome of the kick stand? If it's adjusted, it keeps the bike from walking. -JW:>  | ||
| Johncr250 |
My old KTM 600 on/off road bike used to walk also. It had a center stand and it would walk sideways about 10 feet in about 2mins. The first time it knocked over everything in the garage (shelves, tools, garbage cans, and other bikes) when i went inside to run to bathroom before a ride. Came out looked like there was a brawl in the garage. True story! | ||
| Metalstorm |
"imagine if you lived in san fransico with all the hills..having a bike or stick shift car must really stink, when parking or starting off at a light." Stick shift car does stink quite alot in SF. Bike is no problem. I won't drive in the city (I hate it) but I don't mind riding there at all. | ||
| Nevco1 |
Gonen...Yep, did forget the beginners and those that aren't smart enough to drive. Just making a joke on the loadies. Let's just keep that between us bud's though. If the Federal Government ever realized that they could protect us even more, they would outlaw manual transmissions. Perhaps even on motorcycles too! Sidebar: With the exception of rental cars, I never drove an automatic in SF and used to buzz up there quite a bit on weekends. | ||
| Mikej |
That's a great story, and would make for a great ad. Sort of follows the "street fighter" theme. I can just imagine your bike sitting there dancing around gettin' all antsy to get going, "come on already and let's go". Sort of like a puppy waiting at the door to get outside first thing in the morning, jumping up and down trying to get out as you fiddle with your jacket zipper, and after around the 50th jump in 10 seconds he piddles on the floor just as you reach for the doorknob.  Now I'll have this image in my head of your bike knocking things over all day. My M2 will walk and leave a skid/smear mark from the kickstand, sort of marking its territory. The S2 doesn't since I don't leave that one running on the sidestand. | ||
| Johncr250 |
Mike, I thought the bike was possessed or something. It wrecked the whole garage. You can`t make this kinda stuff up! | ||
| Turnagain |
with a tag line 'Don't Turn Your Back on this Motorcycle'.  | ||
| Ara |
Jim, I always wondered what that rubber tab was for! | ||
| Davegess |
I always thought the rubber thing there so that if you rode off witht he stand down the rubber would touch down first and lift up the stand before you crashed. Could be wrong. | ||
| Court |
The rubber tab is a "fool's flipper". Buells falling over, since the incident with the 1996 S-1 in my office in East Troy, have yielded some of the BEST Buell stories....remind me to tell you mind. The one of the Buell that, prior to landing, did a "cyclone" job on the entire garage is an absolute hoot! | ||
| Court |
er..."mind" should be mine. I have no "mind". | ||
| Azfirebolt |
That tab is so it doesn't hit the primary. My 12R will idle in my inclined driveway. As soon as I goose her she walks nicely though! | ||
| Dynarider |
I dont recall the tube frames having the rubber "flipper". On my bike I had the rubber "bumper" mounted on the frame that only allowed the kickstand to come up so far. Really sucked for b-trax as you would drag the stand before anything else. And if its a Dave says & would cause the stand to retract before you crashed...thats a damn good idea. I have seen a number of folks take off with the stands down & the worst case ones are the HD bikes. No interlock switch so its very ez to ride off that way, plus put any pressure on a HD kickstand & they lock into place. They actually have a tab underneath that will lock the stand in position so its impossible to roll off. This can also cause a serious problem if the rider has a brain fart & forgets the stand is down. A women I went to school with performed such a move a couple years ago in Racine aboard her sportster. Her husband was on his bike & they both took off. Went around a left hand turn & her stand was down. The stand locked into place & the bike basically catapulted as result & threw her into a telephone pole. She was killed instantly, & left 2 very young daughters along with her husband. Yes it was her fault for being forgetful, but what a price to pay. | ||
| Mikej |
The M2 has the rubber toe, the S2 doesn't. Your X1 probably did. | ||
| Dynarider |
I cant recall if it does or not, but either way I know for a fact that the rubber toe wasnt for keeping the stand from hitting the primary...at least on those bikes its not. | ||
| Court |
Dave Gess is accurate. Part No. L0177.9 is a "sidestand safety flipper" (my words, not Buells) I have them scattered all through the Buell Basement as door stoppers, they work well. By the way, they also serve the intended purpose supremely well with elegant simplicity. | ||
| Court |
Okay...okay....but now the door won't stay open.   | ||
| Ara |
My '97 S3 has one of those. Please tell me what exactly the function of a Sidestand Safety Flipper" is. It's adjustable?  | ||
| Mikej |
In theory, as I understand it, and only as an opinion since I don't work for Buell or Harley, not that I haven't tried directly and indirectly, the rubber flipper, not to be confused with the tv star Flipper, is to catch the pavement with the slightly forgiving rubber tip protruding past the end of the kickstand, or sidestand if you prefer, and then flipping it (the sidestand) up as you ride off into the sunset, but with the sidestand safety switches (prone to failure and prone to being bypassed by disgruntled owners who don't like being stranded) theoretically the rubber flipper is redundant in that you shouldn't be able to ride off into the sunset with the sidestand down, but just in case you fit into the disgruntledness category and somehow forget to put up the kickstand/sidestand/no-fall-over-device in the riding position, then the rubber toe flipper is supposed to flip up the arm instead of flipping over the bike as one would if the sidestander is down and the rider attempts a left hand turn. There, should be plenty there to cause an english writing instructor to totally flip out, with or without a rubber toe flipper installed on his/her red pencil. and as always, YMMV. ps, the rubber stopper at the other end of the sidestand is to prevent the kickstand from contacting the primary case, or something like that, or words to that net effect, or affect, or AFLAK, or, uh, what was the question? | ||
| Court |
Simple, sound and effective engineering. The envy of every pre-1998 Ducati owner who has ever replaced bodywork. | ||
| M1combat |
Got one on an 82 Honda I own and have used it a couple times and they work as explained. They attach to the front side of the stand and theoretically should be bent when the bike is sitting on aforementioned anti-thud device. The rubber will ground first and store a bit of kinetic energy when it bends. It will then kick the sidestand up to a safe position (not always all the way up, but far enough so it's not pointed forwards...). That line w/ the arrow above it... replace the device when it gets that short. Maybe they should be called kickstand kickers? |
