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Bgbrd
| Posted on Tuesday, July 10, 2012 - 06:20 am: |
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Has anyone used the Barnett extra plate clutch to replace the grenade plate and how does it work? Are there any other alternatives? |
Buellistic
| Posted on Tuesday, July 10, 2012 - 09:58 am: |
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Do not think "i" would try to mix apples and oranges ... By the way, does'nt the Barnett clutch require a stronger clutch spring than the SPORTSTER CLUTCH ??? |
Natexlh1000
| Posted on Tuesday, July 10, 2012 - 10:45 am: |
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I thought the extra plate allowed you to use a softer spring due to the extra friction surface area? Or is it a no grenade plate + more durability thing? Not trying to be sarcastic. I actually don't know. |
Foximus
| Posted on Tuesday, July 10, 2012 - 11:03 am: |
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its just another 3 bits of surface area from inside basket to outside basket. Do it. |
Oz666
| Posted on Tuesday, July 10, 2012 - 11:07 am: |
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Got it in my S3T when the grenade plate did exactly that. Replaced ALL the clutch plates and steels with new Barnett - with the one extra steel and two extra friction plates or the other way `round - I forget. AND the 15% heaver spring, you don't need that unless you are racing but I'm too lazy to change it back. VERY positive clutch engagement! The "majik slip zone" is about 1/32" . Soft launches require real finesse. Hard launches are AWESOME - I use just a wee bit of slip and I can't even tell the front wheel isn't touching `till I shift. [Sux dog butt in heavy traffic] YMMV Oz |
Dannybuell
| Posted on Tuesday, July 10, 2012 - 11:12 am: |
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the brass rivets on the grenade plate break and fly into the basket making smooth clutch operation a pipe dream. |
Preybird1
| Posted on Tuesday, July 10, 2012 - 05:23 pm: |
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I have Barnett clutches in 3 of my bikes now and i have been super happy with them! |
Loki
| Posted on Tuesday, July 10, 2012 - 05:39 pm: |
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Got the Barnett in my S1 with the stock spring. No problems and love its feel. |
Jim2
| Posted on Tuesday, July 10, 2012 - 06:01 pm: |
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Energy One is an alternative that I have, and like. BTX-011, has extra plate and 15% stronger diaphram spring. |
Buellistic
| Posted on Tuesday, July 10, 2012 - 07:02 pm: |
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Only have 111,671.35 miles on my SPRING PLATE removed OEM CLUTCH ... |
Bgbrd
| Posted on Tuesday, July 10, 2012 - 07:42 pm: |
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With a rebuild to 88 cu.in. on my 98 S3T I'm trying to incorporate all the latest updates. Getting rid of the grenade plate While using the stock spring was what I was after.At 68,000 miles the stock clutch and spring plate actually look pretty good but I don't want to go back in once everything is buttoned up. |
Buell_bert
| Posted on Tuesday, July 10, 2012 - 10:55 pm: |
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I have no problems yet so i will keep the factory stuff for now. I am sure the clutch packs are better now than back in the 70s. It is so nice to have the input from others here now. And the ability to read everyones opinion and decide for ourselves on how we play with our toys. |
Natexlh1000
| Posted on Wednesday, July 11, 2012 - 10:39 am: |
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"Only have 111,671.35 miles on my SPRING PLATE removed OEM CLUTCH ..." I completely believe that. When my grenade plate went out at 50K, the rest of the plates looked perfect. Little brass rivets ate the adjacent plates away. Stupidly, I installed another sportster clutch set because the local dealer had it in stock. I should swap out that plate soon I think. |
Dannybuell
| Posted on Friday, July 13, 2012 - 01:36 am: |
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big bird ~ I have the extra plate and stock spring, it is sooooo sweet. |
2003xb9r
| Posted on Friday, July 13, 2012 - 04:35 am: |
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I've got the extra plate kit using the stock spring on my 88" S1W. No problems with it at all. Slightly firmer pull on the lever but still fine. |
Sanddamaged
| Posted on Saturday, July 14, 2012 - 07:50 pm: |
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I have this kit on my bike as well. Less than 500 miles but no gripes about it so far. Im using stock spring as well. Feels just as good or better than stock! |
Skntpig
| Posted on Monday, July 23, 2012 - 08:49 pm: |
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I have this one and love it. http://www.ebay.com/itm/ENERGY-ONE-HARLEY-CLUTCH-B IG-TWIN-CLUTCH-SPORTSTER-CLUTCH-BUELL-EXTRA-PLATE- KIT-/221077944553?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories &hash=item337945b8e9&vxp=mtr |
Skntpig
| Posted on Monday, July 23, 2012 - 08:50 pm: |
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The spring is stronger but it doesn't require any stronger clutch pull. Check out the website. |
01x1buell
| Posted on Sunday, July 29, 2012 - 03:42 pm: |
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so if i purchase one of these barnett kevlar clutch kits do i need anything else or just what comes with it.?? |
01x1buell
| Posted on Tuesday, July 31, 2012 - 06:58 pm: |
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How hard is it to put this kit in, are there any special tools required. |
Jim2
| Posted on Tuesday, July 31, 2012 - 07:32 pm: |
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You would probably want to have the Factory Service Manual. You should be able to use the one for the S2 here on Badweb. I think you will need to remove the primary cover which means you will need a new gasket and shift-shaft seal. You will need a nice pair of snap-ring pliers. It is recommended that you do not reuse snap rings so you will need new snap rings. You will need to make or buy or borrow a clutch spring compressor tool. A quart of fresh fluid to put back in when you are done (It uses slightly less than a quart). I think that's about it. |
01x1buell
| Posted on Tuesday, July 31, 2012 - 07:42 pm: |
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well i have the FSM for my x1 and i saw the spring compressor tool, that is what i was wondering about i did not want to go and buy one. You say MAKE ONE how would i do that. |
Midnight_rider
| Posted on Tuesday, July 31, 2012 - 08:24 pm: |
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http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/476 23/589522.html make one (Message edited by midnight_rider on July 31, 2012) |
Eshardball
| Posted on Tuesday, July 31, 2012 - 08:53 pm: |
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Neil, If you want you can come over and we can change your clutch in the sea box. I made the spring compressor out of PVC and have not have a problem with it. I replaced the grenade plate with the stock stuff and it requires a little finesse to launch smooth but the grab is plenty strong without making the clutch more of a bear in traffic. |
01x1buell
| Posted on Wednesday, August 01, 2012 - 05:02 am: |
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Thanks Eric I guess I will contact you when I het the clutch. |
01x1buell
| Posted on Wednesday, August 01, 2012 - 06:46 pm: |
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do not reuse snap rings so you will need new snap rings. does anyone know the part numbers for these snap rings so i can have them before i pull it apart at Erics place? |
01x1buell
| Posted on Saturday, August 11, 2012 - 08:00 pm: |
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well after putting the new barnett clutch, clutch spring and cable the bike is great it launches of hte line and the shifts are amazingly strong. I LOVE IT BEST MONEY SPENT ON THE BIKE |