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     Bads1 |
Hayes is just on fire this year. Considering the lap record was set in 2007 by no other then Mladin on a bike that was twice or three what these guys get to ride now.... is so awesome to hear. http://roadracingworld.com/news/article/?article=4 8492 | ||
| Bads1 |
Hayes is just on fire this year. Considering the lap record was set in 2007 by no other then Mladin on a bike that was twice or three what these guys get to ride now.... is so awesome to hear. http://roadracingworld.com/news/article/?article=4 8492 | ||
| Crusty |
What? Could you repeat that? | ||
| Bads1 |
Looks like we are getting closer to seeing all brands in Superbike. Holden now on a CBR 1000. http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/article/?artic le=48677 | ||
| Reepicheep |
Excellent! Nice to see Honda back on the grid. It's no fun beating them when they don't show. Much better to beat them in person.  | ||
| Bads1 |
Yeah I don't think Holden will do well but mid pack at best. Kinda easy saying that when its not a factory Honda. | ||
| Blake |
>>> on a bike that was twice or three (times) what these guys get to ride now ??? | ||
| Jaimec |
Blake, surely you remember that before DMG took over, the Suzuki factory bikes were more "prototypes" than stock. First thing DMG did to reduce the costs of racing was to limit what the factories could do to their bikes. AMA Superbikes are closer to FIM Superstock than they are to World Superbikes. | ||
| Imonabuss |
Twice or three times the cost, yes. Twice or three times the performance, no. That's what the Miller lap times show. | ||
| Bads1 |
Its about time. Theres mention of a EBR kit. If thats the case then is EBR have some type of electronics??? http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/article/?artic le=48866 | ||
| Reepicheep |
I think the author of the article was confused about the $750 "traction control" module for the EBR1190RS... I think he looked at this: http://www.erikbuellracing.com/store/parts-accesso ries/fuel-injection/ddfi-3-1125-programmable-ecm-k it.html Which is the price he quoted. But that's just a fuel injection mapping module and rev limit, not a traction control system. I can see a few competing reasons for coming down on either side... 1) We don't want to watch robots race. 2) If the factory street sportbike has traction control and ABS, then it seems silly to make the manufacturer turn it off for track use. 3) We want to watch people racing motorcycles, not people throwing wads of cash into a 50 gallon drum and lighting them on fire. So when one team is spending half a million a year on electronics development alone, something has gone *really* wrong. Of course a good traction control / abs setup for the street is probably a disaster on the track. So saying you should be able to keep your track systems because you have a street system is probably like saying you can have an apple because you have an orange. In other words, silly. | ||
| Blake |
Very interesting continuing series by Roadracing World concerning electronics in AMA Superbike. The intro is identical for each, so after reading the first one, skip down to the respective team owner/manager comments portion. Superbike Electronics: AMA Pro Team Managers Talk About What Rules Should Be For 2013 And Beyond, Parts 1 through 6: http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/article/?artic le=48866 http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/article/?artic le=48867 http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/article/?artic le=48887 http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/article/?artic le=48888 http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/article/?artic le=48870 http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/article/?artic le=48868 More to come. | ||
| Blake |
Erik's turn, Part 7: http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/article/?artic le=48886 | ||
| Rde48 |
Erik has such a passion for the sport, second to none. His response was so mush more then we got from the others. Erik is THE MAN! "So I don’t think it would take a year. I built a whole freaking motorcycle in a year.” And thats an American Superbike  | ||
| Court |
That's an inaccurate statement . . . . should read . .
If you are at Mid-Ohio . . . .listen closely to what you hear in the pits . . it's been a while since any bike has had such support and respect from the folks it's racing against. I still recall last year when Goeff passed a guy and HIS, the other guy's, pit crew was on the pit wall cheering. Great bike, talented folks, super riders . . . . it's what AMERICAN INGENUITY used to be . . . poised for a comeback. Very cool (Message edited by court on July 11, 2012) | ||
| Coolice |
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| Crmike |
After reading all the other guys' statements and then Erik's, you can tell that his passion is just way off the charts compared to everyone else's. He is truly about racing and the riders, nothing else. It is such a contrast to the KTM guys. I agree with Erik. Make it more the Man, not the Machine when it comes to racing. | ||
| Reepicheep |
He was OK with an untouched stock system as well... which I also like. If you can figure out how to make a stock street system that can perform on par with Josh Hayes right wrist, more power to you and bring it to the races. But spending quarter of a million for a one off system that must be custom tuned for each track / tire / temperature combo isn't good racing. | ||
| Fast1075 |
Traction control belongs in the rider's right wrist. A race should be won as the result of the team's tuning effort and the rider's skill. | ||
| Bads1 |
Bill the systems don't cost a quarter of a million. Its the cost of having a programmer or a Geek if you will to be at every test...every race and to have one for each rider that costs. Thats when it costs that much. As of right now it seems that Graves and Yosh are the teams that are spending that kind of money and have that budget. Then it gets less from there.I personally would like to see it go away. | ||
| Reepicheep |
I agree Dana, that's what I meant... by "system" I meant hardware and all necessary support (human and otherwise) to get it to deliver. | ||
| Court |
Point . . .is you do not have (or want to spend) $250,000 you can not avail thyself to the benefits. A .22LR costs . . . . about $0.03 . . . shooting it costs a lot more. The current system, and it's simply a fat not a complaint, favor someone, like Yamaha or Suzuki, who can spend tens of millions easily if they want. It has nothing to do with, nor does it benefit in anyway, "real" riders and detracts from the head to head skill lure of racing . . essentially . . what you are now watching is two different races. I think the fact that only about 4% of the pack can consistently finish ahead of the EBR bikes is quite amazing. | ||
| Snowscum |
http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/article/?artic le=49016 Interesting where this is going. | ||
| Bads1 |
Very interesting??? Is yosh maybe not going to continue in the series?? Am I reading this right ?? EBR the line up could possibly change.... the hint is there ?? Contracts are up and talks are happening for next year. http://paddockchatter.amaproracing.com/2012/07/15/ silly-season-on-slow-roll/ | ||
| Court |
Where PRECISELY . . .is the "hint"?
I think Greg, who will someday learn to spell Erik's name right . . . summed it up best when he said "But at this point in silly season anything can happen." There's not a hint of anything . . .except the excitement of knowing the EBR Team will be there next year . . in that statement. But . . . I'd not be surprised to see some exciting things happening and, as anyone who's been to the races knows . . there is no shortage of talented folks who'd love to get on board the EBR train. | ||
| Bads1 |
Court, LOL It states in there the rider line up has not been decided. It also says it may not change much. If you read between the lines there could change even an added rider for all that matter. As far as spelling Erik's name right??? Come on get over it I'm quite sure Erik has long ago just like I have that my last name is spelled son not sen. And yeah lots of people do it. | ||
| Aeholton |
I would think that Journalism 101 would emphasize correct spelling. It's Greg White's job to get it right. Mediocrity should not be so easily embraced. | ||
| Crmike |
Hear hear. Let us prolong the decay of written language for as long as possible. When will the next interview on electronics come out? | ||
| Blake |
"Come on get over it..." Very poor, rude choice of words. | ||
| Svh |
Greg should just ask Geoff. I did. He has a contract past this year. |
