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Wolk625
| Posted on Wednesday, June 27, 2012 - 04:09 pm: |
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So I had a thread a while ago that I listed my "to-do" list on and I wanted to update it but it seems to have poofed.. Anywho, in my spare time I finally got ecmspy and sourced a rear shock from Purpony and I must say it rides like a dream now and have added quite a few more happy miles on the bike. But I still have a few bones to pick with the bike - namely, oil. Oil everywhere lol. Last time I had the primary open I filled it with some Valvoline that was blue in color so I could keep track of what was leaking where. Problem being, ITS EVERYWHERE! A while ago I was nearly convinced it was the drain plug not getting seated right but it seems that's where it all likes to collect then drip on to my exhaust, which is pretty stained now :/ I have a drip pan under it every time it's parked and I also notice darker oil that's likely the engine oil leaking as well. I suspect the oil line running from the pump to the oil tank/reservoir but am not entirely sure how to check for sure without just replacing it and seeing if it worked - is replacing it difficult to do? so tl;dr - how can I do a real good job sealing up the primary, and is replacing oil lines difficult? Thanks ahead of time this place truly is the best community ever |
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Natexlh1000
| Posted on Wednesday, June 27, 2012 - 07:09 pm: |
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First thing to do is to check the color of your primary juice. If it's black with engine oil, then the crank seal has gone tit-up and is dumping engine oil into the primary, overfilling it and allowing it to dump over the back of your bike. That happened to mine after 40,000 miles. Another lovely common leak spot I had around the same time was the starter motor's gasket. That dumps oil on the top of the tranny and it dribbles all over everything too. |
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Wolk625
| Posted on Wednesday, June 27, 2012 - 07:40 pm: |
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For the most part I believe the crank seal is sound. The drip pan has a pretty clear division of a blue pond on the left and little black drips on the right/middle side. I wipe the pan down every time before I ride just to be sure. I think I just didn't get the primary cover gasket seated correctly or maybe there's a seam/crease in it somewhere - if that be the case, is it better to just seal it w a silicone sealant? I'm using the gasket with the metal core btw. Is the primary tensioner bolt prone to bilging oil? |
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Jim2
| Posted on Wednesday, June 27, 2012 - 08:03 pm: |
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Clean the bike to get the existing oil off. Then spray/sprinkle foot powder around the primary gasket seam and the starter/primary interface. I think the spray stuff will allow it to stick to where you want it and get up underneath too. Then start it and warm it up and inspect the powder for the source of the leak. If you still can't tell then ride it a little and then check again. I've never done this but I've read about it and it sounds like a good way to discover the source. If it works let us know. |
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Imaposer2
| Posted on Wednesday, June 27, 2012 - 08:10 pm: |
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Yes, the powder trick works, but you need to clean very well first. Otherwise, the minute traces of oil remaining in the "cracks" will wick out and confuse the test, making it difficult to find the actual source. |
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Wolk625
| Posted on Saturday, July 07, 2012 - 03:54 pm: |
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so update: gave it a good wash and think i located the trouble areas..
That area on the bottom of the primary around the drain plug and case bolt was the only thing in the area wet. My theory is that it is the drain plug leaking and makes that shape of an oil stain because of the way the bike leans while it's on its kickstand, but I could be wrong. seems to like to dribble along the outside of the case bolt housing then drip off the end. I was told to try a nylon crush washer on the plug but it doesn't seem to be cutting the mustard so I might try swapping it for a metal one and see if that helps. I didn't think the shifter seal was leaking that bad either until I cleaned it. The rubber's all new on it but I'm starting to wonder if I put them on correctly. The manual isn't very clear how they are supposed to go on.. As for the black drips: it is definitely coming from the oil send/return lines. I couldn't get a good picture of it dripping but it drips from where the shielding ends above the shock, in the lowest spot on the hose towards the rear of the bike and also somewhere in the vertical portion of the hose. It seems like they wouldn't be terribly hard to replace but are they pricey? Recommendations on what to do with the primary? Thanks in advance guys. (Message edited by wolk625 on July 07, 2012) |
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Two_seasons
| Posted on Saturday, July 07, 2012 - 05:57 pm: |
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There are a couple of small o-rings that go to a couple of places...1.) shifter shaft, 2.) primary drain plug, 3.) clutch cable exit at the primary case cover, 4.) primary chain shoe adjust bolt. Make sure you change all four any time you get into that area. And protect the ID (inside diameter) from getting cut by cutting a corner of a plastic grocery bag and placing over shifter shaft, primary drain plug, and the shoe adjuster. |
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Buellistic
| Posted on Saturday, July 07, 2012 - 06:57 pm: |
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"O" rings, copper washers, and plastic washers are all supposed to be the answer to weeping, "BUT" SEAL-ALL GLUE IS(buy at ACE HARDWARE) !!! |
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