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Cro13
Posted on Monday, January 12, 2004 - 03:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Quick question

I have a 03 XB9R

Friday the temp dropped to about nine degrees.
I rode my bike to work and left it covered outside from 5:30 till about 6:00

When I came out it didn’t want to crank over

I had to open the throttle to get it to run. I know that this isn’t a good idea but it just wouldn’t start. I was the last one to leave and I didn’t want to get stranded.

The guy at the shop says he’s herd of several of the new models (XB) doing this in the cold.

I put it on a battery tender every night in the winter and it was running beautifully on the way in but it was in the garage all night.

Any ideas?
If this has already been discussed please point me.

I rode it all last winter but it wasn’t getting this cold.

Thank you
Carter
03 XB9R
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M1combat
Posted on Monday, January 12, 2004 - 03:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well, I haven't had any trouble with my 12, but I know that engines that are tuned for performance generally tend to be hard to start in the cold. I have an '82 CB750F-SS that doesn't run quite right until I figure it's about to melt... Anyway, I'm sure others can offer much more insight than I have.
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Hippo888
Posted on Monday, January 12, 2004 - 03:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There may be a cold-weather oil specification (10w40 vs. 20w50). That would let the motor crank more easily.

Paul in MI
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Boulderbiker
Posted on Monday, January 12, 2004 - 04:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sorry, can't help you, Here in CO, I've ridden to work many many days where the temp at the time was around 10 degrees Faranheit and its always started quite easily considering the temp. No battery tender either.
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Oconnor
Posted on Monday, January 12, 2004 - 06:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have the opposite problem, She wont start when its hot out. Well, when she is warm too. Eg. go for a ride. urn her off. get a bite to eat, start her up 20 inutes later and she doesn't want to start. Takes a lot of throttle to get her going and to stay there idling for a bit.
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Chainsaw
Posted on Monday, January 12, 2004 - 07:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mine had been slow starting this year when the temp is in the teens. It was reseting (or losing) the tripometers and the clock when I started it. No battery tender and stored in an unheated detached garage. Hasn't ever sat longer than 7 days without being ridden, but we have seen some below zero temps lately which could affect the battery power and oil viscosity. I took the battery out and charged it. Problem solved.

FWIW: I'm running synthetic 20w50.

FWIW: I've never had trouble with the battery on the older carb'd harley sitting next to it with 3 times the miles on the clock. If the HD's battery outlasts the Buell's, I'll be pretty pissed.
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Fullpower
Posted on Monday, January 12, 2004 - 07:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

THE BUELL XB has a smaller battery than the old sportsters. only 200 CCA. this is not overkill, but is enough to do the job. the manual reccomends a 10W-40 grade oil for operation below 40 degrees F. 20W-50 is not designed for that service.
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Cro13
Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 10:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks for your comments,

It’s 40+ here now and it’s running like a champ.
I guess I’ll just have to wait till the temp. drops again.

One last thing I use the H&D synthetic and have been since 2k.

Thanks again,
Carter
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Kaese
Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 11:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have the hot problem. It starts OK as long as I do not move the throttle when cranking. I try not to put my hand on the throttle cranking it over. I seem to have problems only about 5-10 minutes after shutting down.
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Kenw
Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 11:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i'm not certain but when your bike sits outside in really frigid weather the battery is robbed of the ability to deliver serious cold cranking amps. that coupled with oil that is too thick also due to temperature conspires against you. i
have to run 5x30 in my jeep here in illinois in the winter because early in the morning and late at night when i go home the 10x30 is too thick.
perhaps change to a thinner oil or synthetic and keep your battery tender with you when you go to work and borrow a long extension cord to keep your bike plugged in while at work.
just my thoughts.
good luck kenw buell sales
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Buckinfubba
Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 12:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

A TRICK IN COLD WEATHER IS TO TURN THE KEY ON WITH THE HIGH BEAM ON FOR 3 OR 4 MINS. tHIS GETS THE BATTERY GOING AND WARMING A LIL BIT.

ITS A TRICK SOME OLD MAN TOLD ME ABOUT BACK UP IN THE DAYS WHEN i LIVED IN THAT CLIMATE. WORKS REAL GOOD.
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Cro13
Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 12:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Buck,
Thanks, I’ll give it a try.
Although I think that I’ll try it at home just in case.
Carter
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Spike
Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 05:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My XB12R was hard to start once in ~35 degree weather after sitting for about two weeks. It didn't give me much trouble, just had to start it two or three times before it wanted to idle. As Fullpower pointed out, these XBs have pretty small batteries. It's the same battery for the Blast! and the V-rod. It's enough battery to get the job done but it doesn't like really cold temperatures or sitting for a long time.

I'd definitely recommend a battery tender if the bike is going to sit for any length of time.

Mike L.
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Gearloose
Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 06:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No problems with my 12S,had the tech.at Waterloo set the TPS when I installed the r/ecm,filter and nasty bad azz D&D.I switch my b/tender from it to my Guzzi every other month.: )
G.
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Johncr250
Posted on Wednesday, January 14, 2004 - 10:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I used to ride my old X1 in winter with temps in the teens. It would never start with the temp below 40 degrees!!!

The dealer recommended switching to HD 10w40 oil and putting in the next hotter spark plug. After that it would start right up in 0 degree temps. It still needed to be warmed up for about 15 mins, but atleast it would start and idle.

I don`t know if that bad for the motor putting in a hotter plug, but it worked great for me.

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Ironmachine
Posted on Monday, January 19, 2004 - 02:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I had cold start problems with both my Buells prior to switching to standard NGK Spark Plugs. <The OE Champions removed from my XB measured 1 @ 4K and the other @ 8K ohms JUNK> After 18 years in the auto repair/stock car/motorcycle business I would not put champion plugs in my lawnmower!!!
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Shawnxb
Posted on Sunday, July 04, 2021 - 12:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey guys, new to BWB. My 2003 xb9s wont start. Plenty o juice, fuel pump cycles, starter cranks. If let set for a while, would the fuel filter clog even after running 4 full tanks of fuel thru? Is there an in line filter that is more accessible than the one in the tank? Just before it stopped running it ran like a dream. Hoping to get back to those days. Thanks for any insight you might have!
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