| Author | Message | ||
     Crmike |
This morning my CEL came on. The bike did not offer up any codes and rode no different. I rode it a 1/4 mile to the gas station, filled it up and on restart no CEL. It did this once before at 2200 miles. It now has about 5500. Im not very concerned about it, but should I be? Right now im just curious about it and want to know if anyone else experienced it and what the outcome was. Thanks! | ||
| Froggy |
If the CEL came on, there is a code, enter diagnostic mode (hold MODE and TOGGLE on your dash, turn key to on), it will display whatever code it was. | ||
| Crmike |
Thanks. When it has given me codes before on other stuff they always popped up on the display, but I guess the CEL is a kind of code in itself. I will go check it out after I get home tonight. | ||
| Timebandit |
when you go in there, don't forget to look at the software revision number in your IC. | ||
| Crmike |
I tried it but I think my mode button is kind of messed up and doesn't always work, so it didn't go into any kind of diagnostic mode nor did it give me any codes. I will work on it more tomorrow, it is too late now and I am gonna hit the hay. Why look at the software revision number? | ||
| Boogiman1981 |
Shouldn't be an issue for the rev number for you as you have an 09 the 08r had a battery drain and a lfl issue | ||
| Timebandit |
LFL/CEL is a 2009 problem. | ||
| Crmike |
Heres my noob knowledge coming in. LFL? | ||
| Zac4mac |
Low Fuel Light You want to see Firmware rev 6.2 If you see 6.1, the IC polls sensors after shutdown, bringing up spurious DTCs(error codes) and it should be replaced. (Message edited by zac4mac on June 27, 2012) | ||
| Crmike |
Ah, I was thinking thats what lfl meant. Ok I will go check this stuff out when I get home. If it is the old software, do I replace the IC or can I just download it into the bike? | ||
| Timebandit |
new IC. | ||
| Spank |
As long as we are the subject of IC and 6.1 or 6.2 software...for some reason if I go through the diagnostics it never shows me what software I have like it should t the end. Any ideas? | ||
| Crmike |
I got it into diagnostic mode. It showed me two codes: U0001 COMM ERROR PO193 FUEL PR SYS ERROR Plus at the end it said: SW 6.1 CAL 1.0 So that looks pretty straightforward. There's a comm error and a fuel pressure system error, and I have the old software version which means I need a new IC. Not sure what CAL 1.0 means though. I have a service manual for the bike. Will it tell me what to check since I have these codes? I also found out one of the right fork seals is damaged and leaking. What a day today.... | ||
| Two_seasons |
U0001 Comm Error is the CAN Bus circuit. This is the circuit that talks between your IC to ECM. When this happened with mine (along with the left fan not working), Hal's replaced the ECM. | ||
| Zac4mac |
Spank - 08s IC didn't show the rev at the end | ||
| Spank |
That makes sense then...thought I was doing something wrong. As always...thanks! | ||
| Crmike |
So should I just bite the bullet and take it to a shop? | ||
| Froggy |
No, there is probably nothing wrong with your bike. Comm error happens when there is a loss of communication between the cluster and ECM, it can happen for a number of reasons, but if it happened once, and everything is still working fine, don't worry about it. Fuel Pr Sys error means that your bike did not have enough fuel pressure, this can be caused by a number of things including being low on gas, trying to start the bike before the fuel pump has pressurized, or even the momentary dip in voltage when cranking the engine. My conclusion is, keep riding and don't worry. | ||
| Crmike |
*big sigh of relief* Thanks Froggy! Would it be of any use to get the new IC with the updated software? | ||
| Froggy |
No. The updated software fixes a bug with the low fuel light not working correctly in the cold, but if your bike hasn't had any issue with it then there is no point in getting the new cluster. | ||
| Timebandit |
I had my LFL replaced under warranty because I had the LFL problem when cold, and a LFL/CEL problem when cold with a topped-off tank. The cost for the IC is about $300. Had I not been under warranty, I wouldn't have worried about it. The lamp problem would go away as soon as I warmed up the bike. | ||
| Crmike |
Cool. Man I was getting all down because I thought I had a bunch of problems. Just gotta replace some fork seals now. Thanks guys and thanks Badweb  | ||
| Timebandit |
Oops. Previous post had a typo. Should have said that I had my instrument cluster replaced because of the LFL and LFL/CEL problems when cold. I think you know what I meant. | ||
| Zac4mac |
The thermistor used for the fuel sensor will most likely drift high over time. It can be brought back to spec with a parallel resistor added externally. No CEL I've seen will change running conditions, nothing like a "limp" mode in cars... info only. Enjoy the ride. Z |
