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Imaposer2
| Posted on Sunday, May 13, 2012 - 03:45 pm: |
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Ok, so I picked up my new S1 yesterday and it came with a box of misc. parts. I just got around to bringing the box in out of my Jeep and looking to see what was in it. A few things were self explanatory, but there was a bag containing a bunch of stuff that I have no idea about. Well, I have an idea that some of it is foot control parts, but I'm not sure what kind or how they fit the bike, and there are a few other things that I have no idea about. Can anyone identify the parts in this picture?
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Imaposer2
| Posted on Sunday, May 13, 2012 - 03:52 pm: |
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And while we're at it, can anyone tell me about this? They were visible in the original pics the seller sent me but it was difficult to tell much about them. There is one installed on each passenger foot rest bracket. A Bueller over on advrider, that originally pointed me in the direction of BadWeB was curious about it and we were both hoping to find out once I got a closer look. I looked and couldn't tell, so I asked the seller about them. He told me something that didn't make sense to me though, so I thought I'd ask here. This is the one on the right side and it has the Buell logo. The one on the left is just like it sans logo. |
Pash
| Posted on Sunday, May 13, 2012 - 06:37 pm: |
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Oooh, how posh... A Banke shifter and a brake pedal from the Buell rearsets... http://www.bankeperformance.com/buell/shifters.htm l |
Imaposer2
| Posted on Sunday, May 13, 2012 - 07:13 pm: |
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Hmmm. I looked at the ones at the link but didn't see the exact ones I have. When I took it out of the box and played with it, I could tell that the shifter mechanism felt really smooth and tight, but didn't know what it was exactly. Other than a shifter that is... So, this is what's on there now: The other stuff was in a bag, in a box of parts that came with the bike. Is there any advantage to the extra stuff? Any reason to change it out, and are all the parts even there? I could tell that it was a shifter and brake pedal,, but couldn't for the life of me figure out how it mounted. Does any one have pictures of the type I have mounted to a bike. |
Imaposer2
| Posted on Sunday, May 13, 2012 - 07:38 pm: |
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So, I took all the parts back out for a second look.... Is this where the rearset pegs mounted, then? I can see threaded holes that line up with one of the parts in the pic of assorted parts above, that would bolt to that piece and allow relocation of the rear master cylinder. Then on the shifter side I think I see how everything mounts up now to allow the shifter to reach back to a similar piece on the left passenger peg bracket. And maybe these go with the rearset mounting brackets to allow pegs to be mounted in place of the carriage screw looking thing on the brackets: Cool! Looks like it would move the pegs up a couple of inches and back around 4 inches. That must have been what the PO was talking about the pegs on there now were much better than the "mid controls" that were on it when he got it.... I don't think my knees could handle it but it is cool to have the parts. Yes., I am a parts wh*re... |
Road_thing
| Posted on Sunday, May 13, 2012 - 07:44 pm: |
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What you've got on there now is the stock set-up (except for the footpegs). The stuff in your first picture is aftermarket, probably Banke, but I'm not certain about that. I'm guessing those things clamped on to your passenger peg mounts are part of that set-up. And yes, that bolt on the rear brake caliper is supposed to engage that slot in the swing arm. Have fun! rt |
Tbolt98
| Posted on Sunday, May 13, 2012 - 09:49 pm: |
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Given the pegasus emblem i would guess they are the Bull Pro Series rearsets that were made by Crossroads Performance! But Either Banke or Crossroads are both pretty desireable bits! I see the bike has been updated to the 99up aluminum swingarm too, that's on my to do list! |
Ratbuell
| Posted on Sunday, May 13, 2012 - 09:55 pm: |
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Yes, those are the Buell Race "rearsets" that moved your foot controls (and pegs) about 2" back and 2" up for racing. The brackets with the Pegasus engravings are what they mount to. If you're happy with the stock controls (pictured on the bike), I bet I know some Buell folk who'd be happy to give the rearsets and brackets a new home (hint, hint) |
S1owner
| Posted on Sunday, May 13, 2012 - 11:27 pm: |
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Last pic is stock peg mounts but you could give me the rear sets |
Imaposer2
| Posted on Monday, May 14, 2012 - 10:16 pm: |
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Well, I can say without a doubt that these pegs SUCK! I tend to ride on the balls of my feet and these pegs, while decent looking, are like trying to keep your feet on greased ice! Any suggestions for nice pegs for an S1 and that has decent traction? I'll probably add some skateboard tape to the tops of these for now, but I'd like to find something different. |
Imaposer2
| Posted on Monday, May 14, 2012 - 10:18 pm: |
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Other than that though, the bike ROCKS!!! |
Imaposer2
| Posted on Monday, May 14, 2012 - 10:34 pm: |
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Well.... Other than the mirror.... The PO installed one small, short stalk mirror on the left side. Admittedly, it does provide and excellent view of my jacket's little sleeve pocket zipper, and my left elbow area, but little else. Felt a little naked in traffic without the ability to keep a keen eye to the rear. I do like the looks of the smaller, discrete mirror, but I think I'd rather have one that is at least somewhat functional. Any suggestions? |
Easy_rider
| Posted on Monday, May 14, 2012 - 10:36 pm: |
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I think it's fair to say that the previous owner endowed you with a couple hundred bucks (and that's probably a little low) of aftermarket parts that many of us are envious of. As I recall the installation of that Banke shifter isn't intuitive (meaning I had to read the instructions). I can shoot you an S3 installation pic if you want. |
Ratbuell
| Posted on Monday, May 14, 2012 - 10:43 pm: |
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The pegs are stock HD male-mount style, so if you have an HD dealer nearby you can probably find something you like. Anything Buell / accessory is likely long gone at this point, but you may still be able to scare up some Pro-Series pegs if you're lucky. |
Imaposer2
| Posted on Monday, May 14, 2012 - 10:51 pm: |
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Easy rider, Yeah, I played around with it a bit after starting this thread and getting a couple of replies. I think I sorta figured out how it all fits up, but I's LOVE to see some pics of it all installed if you have them. And yeah about the "goodies" from the PO. Between the PM wheels, the race header, the polished later style swingarm, the front pulley thingy, the EBC rotor, etc, I think I did ok... I know that I'm happy. Maybe a Corbin, a Forcewinder and catch tank, and a couple of CRG Hindsight mirrors, along with the "Y" front exhaust hanger and a couple of other mechanical reliability doodads, and I'll be all set! Do we EVER budget for all the "extras" when we get a new bike? (Message edited by Imaposer2 on May 14, 2012) |
S1owner
| Posted on Tuesday, May 15, 2012 - 01:27 am: |
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No we never budget for the oh thats cool thingys! |
Ghettobirdpirate
| Posted on Tuesday, May 15, 2012 - 02:54 am: |
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As far as mirrors go, I recommend the CRG Lane Splitters bar end mirrors. They are hinged so they fold instead rather than snap off if you bang them on something (car mirrors, door jams, etc). I had solid stem mounted bar ends on my XB for about two weeks before one departed.
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Imaposer2
| Posted on Tuesday, May 15, 2012 - 11:20 am: |
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Ghetto, The CRG Lane Splitters are exactly what I was looking at and reading a bit about online last night. A little pricey for mirrors, but I guess I'll just have to bite the bullet on them since they seem to be the best all around option. Did you use the adapters, or are they mounted on the end of the bar itself? I read one review that claims that CRG recommends against the adapter, and that you clamp them directly on the end of the bar. Of course doing that would necessitate moving the controls inboard enough to make room. I haven't looked at them closely enough yet to see how much trouble this would be. |
Ghettobirdpirate
| Posted on Tuesday, May 15, 2012 - 04:21 pm: |
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I used the CRG bar end adapters. You have to cut out the center of the grip to slide them into the end of the handle bar. Don't push it in too far on the throttle side. They work just fine. The mirrors and bar end adapters come in black anodized or silver. They might be a little pricey, but the folding feature has paid for itself at least five times already. The mirrors vibrate like crazy at, but smooth out at speed. Also, if you are really trying to see if it is a Highway Patrol car coming up behind you, I have found if you give the grip a squeeze the mirror will stop vibrating at all . Scott |
Jim2
| Posted on Tuesday, May 15, 2012 - 04:28 pm: |
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I like the Napoleon AP Barren Bar-end mirrors. Cheaper, no adapter needed, well made, can run in many configurations, good view. I run mine under the bars when riding solo, and over the bars when riding two-up. |
Britchri10
| Posted on Tuesday, May 15, 2012 - 05:15 pm: |
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Have a look at Third Eye bar end mirrors. I ran them on my X1 & my Blast. Inexpensive, they fold & they don't vibrate too much. Chris C |
Ghettobirdpirate
| Posted on Tuesday, May 15, 2012 - 05:32 pm: |
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Let me clarify. The mirrors only vibrate as much as the handlebars they are attached to vibrate. The mirrors themselves don't have an built-in feature or flaw that causes them to vibrate. |
Imaposer2
| Posted on Tuesday, May 15, 2012 - 06:08 pm: |
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Yeah, I understand the nature of the beast... At idle and low rpm they are going to shake and blur. I'm considering some form of bar end weighting (lead shot or such) to help with that a bit. One other question to those that have used the CRGs. I've seen pictures of bikes with just one mirror on one side. All of my other bikes have two mirrors and I'm used to having that option available, but I have to wonder if just running one CRG Lane Splitter gives sufficient view of the rear? I've also seen some cheap knock-offs of the Lane Splitter on ebay and amazon. They look similar in design and concept and sell for around $20-25 a pair, including the two bar end adapter. Just wondering if they're worth the gamble.... I have no doubt that the CRGs are top quality and well made, but for roughly 1/10th the price.... |
S1owner
| Posted on Tuesday, May 15, 2012 - 06:39 pm: |
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I could not justify 60 for a set of mirrors that a smuck would walk by and hit ( which is what happened to my CRG) i made my own if i ever learn how to post pics i could show you if interested pm me |
Road_thing
| Posted on Tuesday, May 15, 2012 - 07:47 pm: |
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I use the ebay knockoffs. They work fine and they're cheap. I like the ones with the convex glass better than the flat ones--better field of vision. I usually buy two sets at a time--I consider bar-end mirrors to be expendable.
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Ghettobirdpirate
| Posted on Tuesday, May 15, 2012 - 08:05 pm: |
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I have one on each side. Check the front view pic I posted. I have slapped mirrors with cars on the freeway that crowded me while splitting lanes, I have banged them on the door jam riding into the hangar at work and I haven't had any problems. I have only had to buy one pair. Plus the glass is replaceable If it were to break. The previous pair that broke were the solid stem mount that were on my XB when I bought it from the PO. |
Brother_in_buells
| Posted on Wednesday, May 16, 2012 - 04:36 am: |
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Imaposer2 ,your bike is looking very good! for the buell pro series rearsets Right-side
left-side
(found the pictures on here!) |
Imaposer2
| Posted on Wednesday, May 16, 2012 - 08:15 am: |
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Hey, thanks for the pics! That helps me visualize the brake side at least since that looks like the parts I have. But, the shifter parts I have is very different. With my set the shift lever pivots on another piece that mounts to the lower primary cover bolts. Then instead of the lever pivoting around the peg like in the pic above, the lever is pointed back toward the peg. This makes the rod to the shift shaft arm much shorter. You can see the parts I'm trying to describe in the upper left of the first picture I posted in this thread. Then on the far right of that pic is the spacer and longer bolts used to mount the shift mechanism to the primary cover... After my ride Monday I think I'm pretty happy with the current set-up, so I doubt I'll ever use the rearsets. I'm not sure I'd realize any benefit on the street to offset the discomfort to my knees. But, who knows? Since it looks like I have everything I need except maybe a few bolts, I may get bored over the winter and mount it all up just to see how it feels. I must say that just handling the shift mechanism, it does feel very slick and without any slop so I'm sure it would offer some improvement to the shifting. This is my first experience with a HD transmission, but I must say that it was not what I expected at all. After hearing and reading about how clunky and agricultural they are, I was very pleasantly surprised with how well it shifts in it's current configuration. So, even if the rearset shifter I have does offer an improvement, I'm not sure it would be worth the extra angle on my old knees. |
Ghettobirdpirate
| Posted on Wednesday, May 16, 2012 - 08:37 am: |
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Since you mentioned this is your first experience with HD equipment, if you haven't already heard, invest in loctite. You will want to put it on just about everything that has threads when you remove and replace things since they may tend to shake loose. |
Hootowl
| Posted on Wednesday, May 16, 2012 - 09:15 am: |
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"You will want to put it on just about everything that has threads" Don't put loctite on well nuts! This was a painful lesson for me. |
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