| Author | Message | ||
     Alaskacr |
Mobil 1 V-Twin 20W-50 Royal Purple 20W-50 Lucas 20W-50 Which one is the best of the 3 in the 1125? Thanks. AJ '10 CR | ||
| Dcmortalcoil |
Amsoil 20W-50 synthetic | ||
| Duphuckincati |
Ditto. It's a race thing. | ||
| Xtreme6669 |
Support Erik Buell Racing and Amsoil! | ||
| Rt_performance |
use to run m1 tried amsoil now trying Lucas just to see what i think. f Royal purple all hype | ||
| Dannybuell |
I have read the oil articles since the late 60s. The most authoritative presentation on oil performance I have ever seen has been Amsoils. Amsoil is smooth shifting, has an easy clutch, and doesn't burn off (shear). http://www.amsoil.com/products/streetbikes/whitepa per.aspx | ||
| Milezero5 |
Yea, this isnt a rant about how amsoil is chemically better and it supports Erik Buell Racing, I switched last oil change to amsoil and I wont run anything else now. The bike just runs better with that stuff in there. Ive tried the others and they were so so. | ||
| Syonyk |
Amsoil 20W50! And my dealership just started carrying it (for the same price as Syn3)! ... of course, they start carrying it right *after* I order 24 quarts because I'm tired of buying a tailbag full at a time from the local Amsoil dealer. I'm set on oil for quite a while! I am considering trying a load of 10W40 this winter when it gets cold out - this might help the bike start a bit easier in the cold weather. It wasn't an issue last winter, because I just took the XB9. Now that the '9 is set up for my gf, and she rides it a lot, getting another 5-10 degrees out of the 1125 would be nice. Last winter, 20F was the comfortable limit, and it was a bear to start at 15F. | ||
| 99buellx1 |
I run the 10-40 in mine, it likes it. | ||
| Reepicheep |
I wonder how long until the mothership finds out some dealers are selling Amsoil over the counter.... | ||
| Rogue_biker |
10W-40 has the widest temperature range of operation. Now that it's approaching fall/winter, use that. Do not use 20w50 during winter--too thick when cold. (Message edited by rogue_biker on October 12, 2011) | ||
| Motorhead102482 |
Is it ok to run the 10w-40 during the summer to? As clattery as the engine sounds, I would think the thinner oil would get around in the engine better with 10w, therefore lube better, but still be able to withstand the heat of the engine and protect like it's supposed to at 40w. Is this the case? | ||
| Motorhead102482 |
Someone had mentioned before that the elves a E B R had suggested using the 10w-40 AMSOIL compared to the 20W-50 AMSOIL because the AMSOIL doesn't break down fast like the other oils out there. True statement, or am I going crazy? | ||
| Thefleshrocket |
Motörhead, I don't know if eb r people have said that, but that's my logic for running Amsoil 10w40 instead of 20w50. | ||
| Kicka666 |
Motul 300V 10W/40 here. I used to use 20W/50 in my old 351 Cleveland  | ||
| Craigsmoney |
I used to run Motul, then I switched to Amsoil and will never go back. I use 20/50 all the time because I don't ride when it's that cold. Can you use 10w40 even when it's hot? | ||
| Indy_bueller |
Bear in mind that a lot of our ideas about certain viscosity oils being too "thick" comes from the fact that many oils use paraffin in them to keep them from becoming too thin when they heat up. As a result, they flow like molasses when cold. Not so with Amsoil. Amsoil will maintain its viscosity through a wide enough range of temperatures that you generally won't need to be concerned about it when it comes to a motorcycle. But its a free country. Use what you are comfortable with. +1 Dannybuell. That Motorcycle Oils white paper is probably the most in-depth study on the subject you will ever find. | ||
| Sugarbear11 |
I'm using 10W40 Amsoil here (Edmonton, AB) and still riding at cold temps (until the snow flies). With the 10W40 my 1125r is definitely easier to start. Also, the bike is much quieter mechanically since I switched from the H.D. synthetic to the Amsoil. I will run 10W-40 full time. It's temp range is plenty fine for summertime. | ||
| Syonyk |
Hm... I suppose I'll drain out my fairly fresh 20W50 & put in some 10W40 - it's getting cold quickly now. I'm not too worried about the morning - the bike lives in a garage. It's the afternoons when it's 15-20F out that things are a bit iffy. | ||
| Zoil |
I have been an AMSOIL Dealer for almost 20 years now and have run it in all types of bikes, trucks, cars, generators... Cold weather won't affect the 20W50. It has a pour point of -39C or -38F. The 10W40 has a pour point of -46C or -51F. | ||
| Syonyk |
My problem during the cold has been that the starter gear skips out of the flywheel - I'll push the starter, it'll get about half a turn of the engine in, and then the starter gear pops out and spins freely. Do this a few times, and then I can usually get the engine to turn reliably until it fires, which is its own set of challenges. I'm going to put a new battery in before it gets too much colder & see if it fixes it - I know my current battery has been deep-discharged a few times (08 cluster issue), so probably isn't in great shape. It starts the bike just fine most of the year, but I have trouble below about 20F. Below 15F, I try not to let the bike get cold, because I'm not convinced it will start before the battery drains. It's *rough* getting it started at 15F. I'd really like to be able to start it down below 0F, since it occasionally gets this cold around here. If 10W40 won't make a big difference, then I'll just leave the 20W50 in, but some people have said it starts better in the cold with 10W40. | ||
| Rogue_biker |
I'm not an oil expert but if you look at the ideal operating range of available oil out there in your owner's manual, 10w40 has the widest. I don't see any reason to use 20w50 given that information. Unless of course, you go racing during the summer and the engine spends a lot of time in high heat, high RPM situations, and rarely gets started in very cold temps. Valve clatter comes from the finger followers. Just change your oil often and it should keep it relatively quiet. The stock exhaust produces most of the sound on the Helicon. | ||
| Freezerburn840 |
Won't use anything else other than Kal Gard products. I like there viscosity ranges 10w40, 10w50 and 20w50 and they use high zinc and phosphorus numbers on their oils. Their full synthetics are all Group V esters. Their 20w50 v twin oil has CJ4 rating which some of you may know to be a diesel rating. They use their base oil based on the Chevron Delo platform. To top it off Incotec backed comapany so they have aerospace technology. Been using it consistently in the two 1125's i ve owned a Cr and R. Bike loves it and is very quiet with excellent clutch feel. MA2 rating on all bottles with diesel ratings on each bottle. A small company that thinks outside the box. | ||
| Freezerburn840 |
I do like Redline for a second choice. But I have been loving this kal gard stuff. | ||
| Unique_id |
From Erik Buell Racing's twitter page: http://twitter.com/#!/ErikBuellRacing "@amsoilron Yes AMSOIL Dominator 15W50 is the OE fill on all Erik Buell Racing @1190RS" | ||
| Dannybuell |
http://www.amsoil.com/storefront/rd50.aspx | ||
| Buellitup |
I use the purple stuff. I don't know one way or the other, I guess I like being different. I probably don't push it hard enough to make a difference. | ||
| Bartimus |
Russ, what part of town are you living in, that gets down to 0 degrees? The lowest temps I've seen in 5 years has been 12 degrees in the Albuquerque area... I'd wait awhile to drain that 20W50, it will still be a few months until we see sub-freezing temps here in the valley. | ||
| Zoil |
This is the response I got from AMSOIL Tech support when I asked if the DOMINATOR 15W50 was recommended for Motorcycle applications: Ron; The AMSOIL Dominator 15W-50 Racing was not designed for motorcycle applications and should not be recommended for wet clutch applications as it does not carry a JASO wet clutch specification. After testing our product with these bikes we found the Dominator Racing oil to work the best. The new Erik Buell Racing 1190RS has a unique clutch specific to this bike and requires the fluid characteristics of the Dominator Racing oil to function properly. Best Regards, Josh Hatch Technical Service Representative AMSOIL INC. | ||
| Ridenusa4l |
its probably due to the suter slipper clutch that comes standard on the 1190RS, is what they are talking about if id have to guess. Jake |
