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Luisemilio25r
Posted on Sunday, September 04, 2011 - 02:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Can someone point me in the right direction? I'm trying to finetune my suspension and I can't seem to find a link for the suspension settings. Thanks!
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Tbowdre
Posted on Monday, September 05, 2011 - 01:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

link to manual at the top has basic set up and will also tell you what clicker is responsible for rebound and compression
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Boogiman1981
Posted on Monday, September 05, 2011 - 04:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sorry, but the page that you requested is unavailable or its address may have changed.

If you have received this error from a previously bookmarked page please link to the appropriate portion of the Harley-Davidson Web site and update your links:
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Syonyk
Posted on Monday, September 05, 2011 - 11:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Do you have the manual? It comes with settings.

Otherwise, search for a table of them, or post your "ready to ride" weight and I'm sure someone can copy the settings in.
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Rogue_biker
Posted on Tuesday, September 06, 2011 - 03:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The settings in the owner's manual is way off anyway as the '08's have overly stiff springs!

However, you can use them as a baseline and just keep dialing them down until you reach your ideal setting.
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Boogiman1981
Posted on Tuesday, September 06, 2011 - 04:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

perspective Rogue, i have an 08 and because of my fatness it needs more spring
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Rogue_biker
Posted on Tuesday, September 06, 2011 - 05:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

LOL! I understand.

I used to be quite heavy myself--260 lbs. Even then the Buell suggested settings were too stiff for me. I dialed them down two levels per the table and all was good. However, now I lost 55 lbs. so I've had to dial the settings below the minimum.

With my Firebolt, the Buell recommended settings were pretty much right on.
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Boogiman1981
Posted on Tuesday, September 06, 2011 - 07:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm still playing with mine. Thinking about going back to stock reccomendations again and a little more adjusting
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Rogue_biker
Posted on Wednesday, September 07, 2011 - 11:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm down to the point where I need to take the front fork apart and alter the fluid level to lighten up the compression damping. I got the sag correct on the springs but the compression damping is overly stiff. The rear shock is fine.

Anyway, since I'm doing that I may as well get an EBC fork spring with a lighter spring rate.
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Boogiman1981
Posted on Wednesday, September 07, 2011 - 12:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

ebc or ebr? if ebr have to get their catridge as well. the other aftermarket solutions will fit stock internals
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Ghost12
Posted on Wednesday, September 07, 2011 - 02:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm also needing information on suspension set up. I just bought an 08 1125r, I'm 170 lbs. And don't have any sort of manuals to go with it.
Is there any information that y'all can give me on suspension set up so I can get comfortable with riding it at the proper settings from the beginning.
Also is there any online manuals?
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Nuts4mc
Posted on Wednesday, September 07, 2011 - 02:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ghost - see the "front page" of this (1125r) forum - there is a link to a manual...
the bike is over sprung (too stiff) for most people...suggest you start with no preload on both ends of the suspension (especially the rear shock) and add rebound damping a little at a time.(until it cancels out the pogo stick effect)
on the front forks add a ty wrap to a lower leg - go for a ride watch to see where the ty wrap ended up - if it hasn't made it half way down the fork leg - you're too stiff or riding on a pool table.
if it dives too much on a panic brake ( front brake only) add some compression dampening...this should get you started in the right direction...trying to set "sag" as with most sport bikes is difficult because the springs are soooo stiff. (and you're weight is "light" for normal street riding...your weight + racetrack = AOK on the spring rates)
good luck
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Ghost12
Posted on Wednesday, September 07, 2011 - 03:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That link brings up
Sorry, but the page that you requested is unavailable or its address may have changed.
Do you know of any other online manuals?

Also how do I adjust the preload all the way down to 0
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Nuts4mc
Posted on Wednesday, September 07, 2011 - 03:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

sorry bout the link....?
if you got a tool kit with the bike...
rear shock - take off the seat (2 bolts near the rear corner under the padding)...look at the shock see the "ramped" collar ...use the "wrench" in the tool kit ( a stamped part with hooked end) rotate the collar (eat some wheaties!)with the wrench so the smallest end of the collar is against the stop (look at the collar as if it was a ramp - the beginning of the ramp will reduce the pre load to "0")
see here- scroll down for a pix
http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/290 431/618487.html?1302479534

the front forks have a smaller nut ( blue?...24mm?) and "unscrewing" (righty tighty... lefty lucy) it until it stops will reduce the forks pre load to "0"
good luck
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Ghost12
Posted on Wednesday, September 07, 2011 - 06:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That clears things up a lot thank you. However I have one more question.
On the rebound and dampening do u set those to "0" by turning counter clockwise?
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Nuts4mc
Posted on Wednesday, September 07, 2011 - 07:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

the suspension is built for Buell by Showa...they also build suspension for Honda...sometimes a Honda manual will explain the "clickers" better than I....here goes:
The rear shock
a) "rebound" is the big black screw by the clevis that mounts the shock to the swing arm...be careful - I believe this is a left hand thread..that is turning the screw as if you were tightening it ( to the right) ( righty tighty /lefty lucy) actually is reducing rebound damping...you should start with this screw all the way out...when riding and going over a bump - the back end kicks you in the butt/bike acts like a pogo stick/ bike acts like a "hobby horse"...unscrew (turn to the left)to increase the rebound not more than 1/2 turn at a time - the suspension adjustments are pretty sensitive..don't over do it...have patience.
b) compression dampening:
the tool kit has a ballend hex driver (looks like a screw driver)- it fits into the set screw up by the gas/oil chamber built into the shock under the seat - it can be accessed with the seat on thru the hole in the tail section's body work ( shifter side up and thru( you may need to practice this with the seat off)...this is a right hand screw - unscrew it (left hand turn clyde) to reduce compression damping / screw it in (right hand turn) to increase compression dampening..start with it all the way out! you may not need to increase this adjustment due to your weight and the stiff spring...if the bike should go wide in a fast sweeper even tho you are NOT changing the "turn" on the handle bars- you are losing front end grip - try increasing the compression dampening to help "load" the front end under acceleration and hold the "line".
front forks
a) the compression adjusters are down by the axle (rt hand thread) - unscrew it all the way to start...increase it if the dive under braking is too much...the stiff springs again will not allow you to turn this "in" too much.
b) rebound is up in the center of the blue nut (rt hand thread) unscrew it (turn it to the left)all the way and adjust it in ( increase rebound dampening) to stop hobby horse/pogo stick effect when riding over bumps.
tips tricks:
a) set your tire pressures FIRST - they are the biggest "spring" you have working for you /against you
b) ride over the same route over and over to do your adjusting
c) keep a log/take notes
d) have patience - it ain't easy - each bike has it's own "setting" due to frame stiffness and tire brand
e) don't have patience? - go to Sport Rider's data base for settings...but in most part they'll be too stiff.

http://www.sportrider.com/suspension_settings/susp ension/146_suggested_suspension_settings/viewall.h tml

good luck
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