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S1owner
| | Posted on Monday, September 05, 2011 - 07:09 pm: | 
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Ok went for a good ride today got down south and visited for a couple hours when I went to start the bike turned on the key all lights etc came on run switch on hit start nothing turned it off and back on and started fine rode for two blocks stopped to get gas and it did it again this time took me 20 min to get it started really did not do anything it just worked. Now there's nothing. Any help? |
Road_thing
| | Posted on Monday, September 05, 2011 - 07:40 pm: |
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Check your starter relay.
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S1owner
| | Posted on Monday, September 05, 2011 - 07:48 pm: |
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How do I check the relay and wear is it |
Sparky
| | Posted on Monday, September 05, 2011 - 09:00 pm: |
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There is a quick disconnect connector with a small ga. wire that plugs into the starter and if it gets loose, the starter won't click or do anything. Make sure it is on tight. |
S1owner
| | Posted on Monday, September 05, 2011 - 10:37 pm: |
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Ok I can clearly hear the relay clicking when I turn the key on and the small quick connect Is connected |
Sparky
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 06, 2011 - 12:05 am: |
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OK, if the relay clicks, the problem is likely with the heavy duty contacts in the starter solenoid or the battery could be too weak to crank it normally.
If you know the battery is in good shape, the solenoid contacts may be pitted, dirty or worn out causing an interruption of current getting to the starter motor. Or the starter motor could be on its last legs.
I'd suggest taking apart the solenoid and inspect the contacts. If they are contaminated, try taking a file to them to clean 'em up or get another solenoid.
If the solenoid contacts look OK, then IMHO it's likely a bad starter motor. |
Two_seasons
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 06, 2011 - 07:44 am: |
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Another idea.
Check your ignition switch and kill switch for intermittent. You could have an ALMOST broken wire in either of these switches or the contacts are bad.
If you don't use your kill switch much, rock it back and forth many times to help the contacts inside clean themselves a little. |
Court
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 06, 2011 - 08:13 am: |
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S1owner
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 06, 2011 - 11:33 pm: |
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Ok so I took the whole kill switch area apart and inspected it. I suspect the starter switch can I bypasss it and see if it works somehow. Battery is good, do not think it's the starter so I will start taking it one switch at a time |
Two_seasons
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 07, 2011 - 10:59 am: |
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Without a doubt, these bikes do chaff the wiring over time.
You may well end up taking the fly screen off, the tank off and wringing out your wiring looms.
I've read that sometimes you have a chaffed wire(s) under the loom where you need to cut the protective loom away to see the chaffed wire underneath. It would be wise to go along each wire loom and look for pinched areas and rubbing areas where the tie-wraps are actually cutting into the wires inside.
Another thought is some have experienced wire chaffing at the steering head area. When we rotate the handlebars from left to right, over time, they tend to get strained enough to cause electrical issues.
Ken, you have a beautiful S1! Don't give up, you'll find it. If I was closer, I'd be there to help. Best wishes. |
S1owner
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 07, 2011 - 03:42 pm: |
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Thanks for the compliment! I found it took the tank seat rear vowel off cut every zip tie undid every connection cleaned inspected could not find anything then I started hitting the start switch over and over then blame it started! Starter was the problem took it all apart inspected everything was fine cleaned and reinstalled works good now! Not to mention my bike got cleaned and organized in places it did not know it had! Thanks everyone !!!!!!! |
Harleyelf
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 07, 2011 - 06:27 pm: |
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Hope that's it, then. My '99 S3 has been refusing to start lately. Starter relay won't click, clutch handle and side stand switch get touchy. Found an intermittent problem in the ignition switch itself. New one on the way. Our bikes are old enough for switches to be failing of old age; kill switch is the next suspect, then the diodes. |
Midnight_rider
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 07, 2011 - 07:21 pm: |
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sad to say i had same problem
Loose battery cable at starter
glad i checked cables first |
S1owner
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 07, 2011 - 09:43 pm: |
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Well I am pulling the entire thing apart over the winter and going thru everything and rebuilding it not restoring but customizing so hopefully everything will be like new |
Harleyelf
| | Posted on Saturday, September 10, 2011 - 01:40 pm: |
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My starting issue seems to be resolved. Still not sure if it was the switch itself or the quick-connect leading to the main harness, but I stand by my decision to change the switch because pushing on the key would cause the current to flicker. I eliminated the connector and soldered the wires into place. Old switch shows over an ohm of resistance; new one less than half that. Current flow to starter and ignition relays was inadequate to close switches inside the relays. Shall replace relays, too. |
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