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     Schwara |
Out of my price range until we've gotten 2 kids through school ... approx 10-15 years. I had been saving for my first new bike (a Uly) until the announcement came from HD. I guess I saved a little buying a used one. I assume that's the same thing I'll have to do the next time around as well. | ||
| Crusty |
S3T on roids for me please! Ya; me too! We're not the only ones who feel that way. Chec k out this thread on ADVrider: http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=709402 (Message edited by Crusty on August 03, 2011) | ||
| Etennuly |
The difference between a new Uly and a low miles used one is that the original owner paid 50% to 60% more. The used bike owner has, at a better price if it was properly cared for, the same thing the new owner had at the same amount of miles. My new '06 was just over $14k out the door including TTT and it came with hard bags as well as the gel passenger seat back pad. That was after pre-rders were filled and just as the second wave of dealer stock bikes hit the dealer floors. I did not order mine but waited four weeks for that second wave of dealer stock bikes. It has been awesome and I am not looking back. To ask if I would pony up $20k for it's replacement.....tough question.....so much would have to be similar, so much would have to be better, I know it would be coming in with more power whether it was needed or not, good looking-non leaking bags would have to be on it, I know there will be many up grades in parts and fit-ment. I guess the question would be "do I think the new one could give me $20k + in value?". Well, it should be able to with ease. I feel my '06 with all it's multiple faults was well worth what I paid for it. There is some confusion though. When I bought the Uly it came with the BadWeB, fortunately. If not for BadWeB the bike may have been gone at problem #12 to #15, wherein I struggled through at least 25 problems that would have taken the bike out of service for potentially weeks at a time by going to a dealership for repairs(as did happen a couple of times). Having had a near perfect City-X for 14,000 miles and a year, the Uly which was problematic was disheartening. The dealer had answers about half the time. The rest of the time it was worked out here in this forum. What I am saying is I feel the Uly has more than satisfied it's cost to value but with an asterisk. Without BadWeB it would have been sold short and I likely would have gone back to HondaYamaZuki land. I am glad it panned out this way simply because I like riding this bike like no other that I have had. When HD killed the Buell program it took the pride of ownership away like having the wind knocked out of you. Again BadWeB has been the link that has kept me proud to own an American Motorcycle that is not a chrome couch, but a piece of engineering to marvel at. Can I feel this way (or better) about a new $20k Erik Buell built motorcycle without the HD baggage? I just want to be able to ride the machine in an unrestricted manor, to do many things, and look like it is supposed to do it. I want to be proud of the machine I own. I think that Erik Buell Racing can do this for me as a customer at $20k better than Buell MC of HD could at $14k. And I believe that BadWeB, and all that comes with it, will still be here for me at it's more than fair price. Too bad though.....I really liked the font of the XB Buell's logo. Guess I'll have to learn to have the flying horse and initials under me. | ||
| Blake |
Mark (Biffdotorg) says in part...
Are you for real or are you some kind of professional troll? I've never seen so much nonsense in one place on the forum here before.  The internet never fails to amuse. Frank (Froggy) already filled in the blanks for you. Read his post. Oh, and he had bad luck with carburetors. | ||
| Court |
Certainly illustrates vividly how silly rumors are started. Those sorts of silly sweeping statements should carry a disclaimer . . . "I have no factual information and what follows is my wild ass guess" Kind if a shame . . . . I think, in my opinion, everything stated is inaccurate. That's my wild guess. I wonder what would make people think it would be a long time before we see center consumer market models from Erik Buell Racing? Lack of knowledge I suppose. The reason I ask about the $20,000 bike is that I am reading the first pages of a magazine his month about new mode,s coming from BMW, Ducati and Honda . . . . I noted that all the bikes wee over $20,000 and am eager to see how they are received. | ||
| Billyo |
There are a lot more emotions involved when buying a bike as opposed to a car. For $12,495 you can buy a good used car that can be used in almost any weather, with heating/air, stereo, adjustable seats/steering wheel, air bags, room for a few friends and lots of stuff. Even fuel mileage is poor for a lightweight machine-a Hyundai gets almost the same mileage as my XT and weighs about six times as much. Except for ease of navigating traffic and parking, bikes are very impractical and not nearly as safe. Like most everyone else here, I ride (and buy Buells) because I love to. So, even though $20,00 may sound like a lot of money for a bike, When you fall in love with it, you'll forget the price and find a way to pay for it. | ||
| Wolfridgerider |
Colonel Harlan Sanders once said “Feed the poor and get rich or feed the rich and get poor.” my take on that would be a bike in the 5000 to 8000 Dollar range..... you would have 3 shifts running 24-7-365 to keep up with demand...  | ||
| Court |
I think you are on the right track .... 2012 MV Agusta = $18,000 2011 BMW K1600 GT = $20,900 With bags = $24,540 2011 BMW K1600 GTL = $23,200 With bags = $25,845 Ducati Multistrada Pikes Peak 1200S = $22,995 Dint get me wrong ....... I'm not looking for a $20,000 bike. But apparently someone missed the memo. | ||
| Conchop |
It takes a salesman. One of those guys that can guide you through all the questions and the maze of of fitment issues. A good salesman that can make the purchase of your new bike a righteous experience because afterall, you're dropping a good bit of your hard earned money on a motorcycle, your version of a "precious". You want a good deal but you also need to want for that salesman to make some money. If he makes some money, the dealer makes some money. If the dealer makes some money, then Erik Buell Racing makes some money. One hand feeds the other. You can safely bet that a new version of the Uly is going to cost more than the old one. The competition in that segment is commanding top dollar. So you have to ask yourself, is it worth it??? I think most of you will agree that if a new Uly gets built for the high teens to low 20's, it will be "in the money". Sounds like there 's some real interest in the new Uly replacement so the logical thing to do is to start SAVING SOME MONEY. If it comes to reality, find that good salesman. He will show you all the features and benefits in the demonstration of the new replacement bike. Dicker with the sticker if you can. Sign up and ride. | ||
| Schwara |
The thing that I always liked so much about the Uly was that "in my humble opinion" there wasn't really much else to make an apples to apples comparison with in other true sport touring bikes ... or at least what I consider to be sport touring. Augusta - Sport BMW - Touring Multistrada - Sport Touring Of the ones mentioned the Multi was the only one I even spent a little bit of time looking at, and even then not that much. I did look at the Tiger briefly as well, but you got so much in the Uly for the $$ and it was an American made Buell. There were multiple reasons that I never seriously considered anything else. If Erik does have a future offering that costs the same as the Multi chances are I would still go with the Buell (although used), but I think others might possibly be a little discouraged as for the same money the Ducati name is probably a little more widely recognized ... for now. I guess only time will tell. If a sub 18K is made available I might be back to saving up for what would still be my 1st new bike, but at >20K I'll probably still be looking at used ... for at least a little while. P.S. - I also think the Multi could use some plastic surgery on it's beak as well (once again in my opinion). It would be a gorgeous bike if you could do something about it's nostrils flaring under the head lights. | ||
| Wolfridgerider |
You can safely bet that a new version of the Uly is going to cost more than the old one I hope you are way wrong on that point... If you're not, it will be a long time before one is in my garage. I like to start cheap and add the farkles as I go | ||
| Biffdotorg |
I'm not quite sure why I am being called a troll for agreeing with what you guys are saying. If they release this thing anytime soon, it will not be the $12K Uly you have now. It will be at least $22K-$25K like it's closest competition. I would love to be wrong. So how can my "wildest guess" which it is, be that far off that we will not be seeing Sub-$20K bikes in a showroom anytime soon? (maybe because I was assuming there were no showrooms and Erik Buell Racing released a $40K bike?) Many of us hope and pray for a sub $20k bike because 99% of us that have bought new Buells have bought a sub $20K Buell off a showroom floor, because that is all we have ever known except for used sales! Dealers will be minimal, at best, and $12K is not where the target market is as Court pointed out 2 posts above. Again, how many "dealers" are on board right now? Save your pennies boys, I know I will. Court to answer your question... 20K is more than I care to spend on a motorcycle living in MN. But, as much as I love my XT, I would strongly consider it, as it is my true love to ride at as many days as I can. Sorry for coming off as a troll to anyone that is reading this as most of us don't spend every hour of the day reading each and every Erik Buell Racing headline and press release. We have actually seen very few concrete details on these next three models. Just quotes from Erik and teaser lines from those close to the elves and Erik. And most of us are not buddy/buddy with Erik either and have the inside track. All we know is what we see here, and without inside information, we are all still guessing. That makes most of us trolls if that is your definition. We have this same rumor mill sitting on Hardcore Sledder each spring when the next model years of sleds are released. Everyone is guessing, and a few spy photos are released, and then some buddy of a line worker spills the beans on a new feature or spec. It's all good buzz, and I'm happy to see it with Erik Buell Racing. Until there is a formal release from Erik Buell Racing, that is what I am taking it for. A BUZZ and hype builder. Unless someone has a link to some official specs, all I see are three two-letter acronyms on the Erik Buell Racing site and some quotes in my latest motorcycle mag from Erik to go on. | ||
| Biffdotorg |
One thing that I would love to see come from Erik Buell Racing just to shove it straight up that A$$ of HD is to setup a display at Sturgis next week in the manufacturers area. Most bike builders, accessory companies etc, do this each year, even if they don't fit the chrome-couch mold. It gets their wares in front of bikers of all types. I would love to see an Erik Buell Racing semi-truck with a huge Cycleworld - Best Superbike banner hanging end to end on it!! Is it wrong to ask if anyone has heard any word that they may be in Sturgis next week? Many HD owners are Buell owners. | ||
| 7873jake |
I love my Buell but frankly, I need another $20,000 motorcycle like a fish needs a bicycle. Don't get me wrong, I like the new 6-cyl techno-coup-de-gras BMW's but I don't plan on scalping my finances to own one. I make a comfortable living with a generous amt of discretionary income but also appreciate the future value of money ($20k) elsewhere in my long term plans. If the AX tips the scale at the $20k mark, there are other items on the bike menu that I will pursue in order to check those models off of my bucket list of bikes to own, all well under $20k. If I can't reconcile with the limbic flush of desire to own the AX, I'll wait and let some other well-heeled early adopter buy it, depreciate it in his garage under a shower of farkles and then buy it from him or his ex-wife as a "used, low miles, adult owned, well cared for, dealer maintained bike thats gotta go". That's how the Motus will come to live with us when it finally makes it to market. | ||
| Cyclonedon |
I just saw this in Cycle World. These are closer to my price range. http://www.cycleworld.com/first_motorcycle_ride/sp ecial_features_articles/11q3/10_motorcycles_under_ 5k_-_special_feature | ||
| Reepicheep |
There are two questions here... 1) Will Erik Buell Racing release a sub $10k motorcycle soon? 2) Will you be able to run up the price of an Erik Buell Racing AX to over $20k? My guess is yes, and yes. (Message edited by reepicheep on August 04, 2011) | ||
| Reepicheep |
I bought a 2007 Uly with 10k miles on it for $5k. I'd take it over any three of those new bikes in that cycle world article combined. | ||
| Reepicheep |
(Though it would be a close call if you offered me the CBR250R, the TUX250X, and the TW200...  ) (Message edited by reepicheep on August 04, 2011) | ||
| Court |
TW200 I kinda miss the one we sold a couple ears go. Great neighborhood bike. No brakes, power or suspension ..... Just fun | ||
| Biffdotorg |
I posted this on the quickboard as well: Many of us will be making the trek to Sturgis this year. I had to send off a quick email to the info@ link on the Erik Buell Racing website. I wanted to find out if Erik Buell Racing will have a display at Sturgis/Rapid City/Blackhills Within 10 minutes, here was the response: Mark, There will be an 1190RS Carbon Edition at the AMSOIL booth. Thanks! Customer Support Erik Buell Racing | ||
| Reepicheep |
Yeah, well, ask them if Erik will let Tony bring the keys this time! (Or maybe Erik will be there, and it will be Tony's turn to hide the keys before somebody starts riding it like it was made to be ridden...  ). | ||
| Reepicheep |
(And that TUX250X looks really cool... I may have to stalk one on craigslist....) | ||
| Conchop |
I just love to look at this and think of the possibilities. I've built a bunch of bikes and I'm considering building another one. I have made a huge mistake and sold my Uly. Until the money comes back up, I have to deal with it. My Uly is now more acreage and a new upcoming roof. If I were to build a Uly AX or something, I would gear it and cam it down. Variable cams would work. I want to be able to "putt" at walking speed but also hit 130 MPH plus if the need should arise. Handling is a given with a Buell. Comfort needs to be paramount. My Uly buzzed a good bit and this is BS. Let me say that again - BS! Smooth, slick, proper air management, and NO HOT SPOTS. Google up the Harley FXRT. Thats a proper fairing and something similar to this would be acceptable. Lose the beak! Euro design - yuck - Universal 60's Brit bike - HD Sportster - Bobbers rule. American styling does not need to follow euro styling just because BMW invented the segment. Function, style, class, speed, comfort - Harley Earl's Buick - Tuckers Torpedo. If I'm going to bust a near 20K$ nut for a bike, it had better be worth every red cent. Looks count and I'm one that likes to look at beautiful women and drop dead gorgeous bikes. But I also don't think twice about taking either one of them into the outback. Soap and water, their good as new. Both of them can provide a sense of nirvana that we are all familiar with. "If it has tires or tits, its gonna give you trouble". So for my money, it damn well better be worth it.  | ||
| 7873jake |
I bet the poor sod that made that picture wishes he got a nickel for every time it was published, lusted after or thought about by a Badweb'r.  | ||
| Pnw_uly |
I've spent the vast majority of my money on motorcycles, women, and booze... the rest I just wasted. . ." | ||
| Panhead_dan |
"Yeah, well, ask them if Erik will let Tony bring the keys this time! : ) (Or maybe Erik will be there, and it will be Tony's turn to hide the keys before somebody starts riding it like it was made to be ridden... ; ) )." If Erik wants to be a real hit at Sturgis with this beautiful machine, someone is going to have to smoke the tire to the point of popping it at some point. Just my opinion, of course... | ||
| Crusty |
Using an 1190 to just light the tires at Sturgis is like putting Hunts Catsup on a Prime Rib. | ||
| Panhead_dan |
an tic apation | ||
| Ratbuell |
i just don't understand the thread title... the 1190rs is not a 'could have been'... it IS. they exist. and more will follow! | ||
| Johnboy777 |
I think the OP may have meant; if the 1190RS was a actual production bike - not a $40,000 boutique bike. And that HD (for whatever reason) kept Erik from building this bike as a production bike. Most of us here don't like crotch rockets anyway - that's why we ride Ulys . |
