| Author | Message | ||
     01x1buell |
my front iso is ripped ,, i just ordered a knew one.. i am going to try and replace it myself.. i downloaded the service manual but i can not find any clear way to remove it... where and how hard is it to replace??? thanks guys | ||
| 01x1buell |
i also tried looking in the knowledge vault and could not find it.. if anyone has the link that would help | ||
| Jramsey |
Search function, type in "front Iso" 1 - 600 of 804 total results are now displayed. 1. Old School Buell: 1998 Buell S1 LIghtning: Archive through July 03, 2011 39;m guessing rear iso's toast, front ... isolator torn looked rear isolator ... cant find front any link? section ? iso's need be done ... . rears shot just front risk tearing front order front rear isolators http://www. . Jack goes middle front engine, case halves ... , say unloading front isolator Matching Posts: 10, Relative Score 100% 2. Old School Buell: Archive through July 01, 2009: Ok got the front isolator fix now harded vibration??: Archive through June 10, 2009 79D iso transmit felt ... replaced rear isos spring vibes mounted rigidly front, hanging isolator ... mounted frame front tie bar currently after replacing isolator. neglected ... front hanger break ( eating parts. Bad front iso's, Original front isolator lasted 30,000 ... miles. Replaced front isolator lasted , Matching Posts: 10, Relative Score 97% 3. Old School Buell: Archive through February 27, 2010: Question for Blake think referring [front iso bar.jpg] front isolator failure above ties bolt runs front iso top rear motor ... rocking force hard front iso. understand , opinion solution front isolator issues? front isolator issue failure ... due manufacturing isolator. design sound Matching Posts: 9, Relative Score 90% 4. Old School Buell: Archive through August 05, 2009: Isolators re-visited: Archive through July 23, 2009 asked: TIE BAR front motor mount frame ... .9L L0505.9L rear isolators installed ??? 00 Cyclone M2 Front Isolator failure ODO 49 ... solo rider Replaced Iso HD-79d Reamed .045 Original, undamaged front isolator place K& Guy. . Original Front Isolator Replaced ... ) Miles . NRHS Front Engine Mount tuber shredding front isolator 500 miles. Matching Posts: 9, Relative Score 87% 5. Old School Buell: Archive through August 31, 2009: Just ordered New front iso removed tank, front isolator. going put ... S2 style iso mount,upgrade! New front iso GREAT all vibes all ,S3s upper tie bar front isolater. tested 97 ... -bar!Gess tie-bar iso mount front longer? about bolts sides front ISO 30# sense given ... 60# spec rear ISO time belt. Thanks listing find /" front Iso mounting bolts ... FSM's rear Iso's main front Matching Posts: 8, Relative Score 79% 6. Old School Buell: Archive through July 27, 2009: COURT, WHAT'S YOUR TAKE ON THIS FRONT ISO PROBLEM???: Archive through July 13, 2009 " front isolater problem?" reading be ready front mount loose any day ... Ulysses read forum front iso mount letting HARLEY-DAVDISON Part Number be &# ... Numbered part ... FRONT ISOLATOR -79D part ;" BLAST harder FRONT ISOLATORS TUBE ... BLAST engine hangs FRONT ISOLATOR ... put DS iso , ~,500 miles far. ... . believe failure front motor mount Matching Posts: 8, Relative Score 78% 7. Big, Bad & Dirty (Buell XB12X Ulysses Adventure Board): Archive through September 04, 2010: '06 XB12X Clicking/Clunking while stopping Check front engine isolator,Mine symptoms possible.Just got front isolator AL. Fast pics discussion front isolator >> ... sent PMs. Word Doc front isolator board. plan inspect front isolator tomorrow front isolator small tear , Matching Posts: 7, Relative Score 68% 8. Buell Motorcycle Classifieds: Buell Parts & Accessories for Sale: 1125 Race Parts Bison, want front wheel. PM sent. Bob . Bison. Im interested ... front rotor. know get Steering Damper Front Rotor sold pending ... 40;Message edited Bison June 10, 2010) All Front Wheel & ... 40;Message edited Bison May 17, 2010) Update Bison Racing 1125r race ... Damper $300 Front Forks Ohlins 25mm Matching Posts: 6, Relative Score 60% 9. Big, Bad & Dirty (Buell XB12X Ulysses Adventure Board): Rumble in the 08 XT Front engine isolator order. follow any fellas blown front Isolator 's think front engine isolator also. Uly ... GVWR. really bad isolator set bolt Check front isolator, all muffler front isolators failed due Matching Posts: 6, Relative Score 60% 10. Old School Buell: Archive through November 19, 2009: ISO mount bolt broken off in head ties front Iso center tie bar ... half right know front ISO small rip third isolator span 4000 ... luck bolt. [Copy Front mount.JPG] addition keeping front rear ISOs good drag specialties iso, check rear iso, ... failing overload front iso may be factor Matching Posts: 6, Relative Score 59% | ||
| Natexlh1000 |
I got some tips for you. Pop the tank out and turn it sideways out of the way. Cut the cable ties in the harness (NOT the harness itself!) this will allow you to move the bundles of wires aside to get at the mounting bolts with a box end wrench. Support the engine with a floor jack under the heavy part of the engine. This will allow you to adjust the height of the engine to line up the bolts with the new ISO. So far, I haven't been able to get any torque wrench in there and have been just making it "tight". | ||
| 01x1buell |
why thank you. i was just looking at it and it seems pretty simple but a pain in the ass,, i have the torque specs and i think i might be able to get the torque wrench on idk i guess i will find out | ||
| Jramsey |
"it seems pretty simple but a pain in the ass,," First rite of passage of owning a toober is replacing rocker box gaskets the second is the front Iso. Welcome to the club. We'll guide you through it. | ||
| Kalali |
Neil, if I could do it (twice) then it can't be that hard... I suggest to take the tank off the bike but make sure you relieve fuel pressure before disconnecting it from the filter. And make sure you put a piece of wood (small 2X4) between the jack (I used scissor jack) and the case. Just lift it enough to take pressure off the center bolt so you can remove it. Then once you remove the center and side bolts lower the jack just a tad and you can take the iso out. I was able to torque all the bolts - used 5/16" crow foot wrench for the sides and an extension for the center bolt. The size escapes at the moment. And finally make sure you use the torque values from the kit instructions The FSM values are much higher and correspond to the old design. Good luck. | ||
| Hootowl |
Don't know what it means but... I have a 99 X1 with the original front isolator. Nothing wrong with it, and it has over 50K miles on it. The S2 I just picked up has about 15K, and the isolator was torn when I got it. | ||
| 01x1buell |
ok i just got my iso out, it took 30 min, 2 beers, and some swearing but was not that hard.. i went to get the new one and now it will not be in until friday.  !!!!!! | ||
| 01x1buell |
ok now that i have replaced the front iso and have been riding , i noticed now that the bike shakes a little more.. the motor does not shake around in frame just everything shaking.. is that the new stiffer iso or what. | ||
| Jramsey |
Its not so much the new one is stiffer but the fact you were used to riding with one that was shot. | ||
| Kalali |
Mine looked worse than yours when I replaced it and I felt no difference whatsoever after putting the new one in. | ||
| 01x1buell |
ahh ok i thought that might be it cause i double checked everything and it was installed correctly thanks now i will have to look at my rear iso now | ||
| 46champ |
I thought the same thing when I replaced my front iso. It is possible the new one is stiffer by design or may be stiffer just cause its new. I'd run it for awhile the feeling will go away. | ||
| Buellistic |
A "STRONGER ISOLATOR" means you will get "MORE VIBRATION" !!! Does the last BUELL front isolator kit come with a "SHIM" for the smaller isolator to motor mount mounting bolt ??? My question is why would you go to a smaller mounting bolt when the engine hangs from from it and the H-D BIG TWIN ENGINE SITS on it ??? | ||
| Spiderman |
And if you were an engineer you would know the answer to said question... | ||
| Buellistic |
"i" liken a BUELL to an airplane without wings ... Engineers design airplanes and TEST PILOTS fly them ... Would you like to discuss the clip that holds the throttle cables at the carburetor or did you even know how that clip came about because an engineers over looked a safety item ??? | ||
| Guell |
yea crap is found when bikes are developed, and safety recalls happen. They had a bit of time to figure out the front isolator. Id install according to the factory instructions. If you dont, do so at your own risk. Its only something the engine hangs from so i trust what the factory says on that matter. | ||
| Kalali |
"Engineers design airplanes and TEST PILOTS fly them ..." Great point. And just to add, do you know of any engineers who have died while testing their own designs? Of course as an engineer by profession I can say that.... Anyway, going back to the topic at hand, if you look at the instructions sheet you'll see there are all sorts of washers between the isolator and the frame. In my opinion the major design improvement in the new isolator is the concave shape of the rubber being less prone to shear and twist tear which appears to be the prevalent mode of failure as seen the picture posted above. | ||
| Buellistic |
Kalali: Do you not remember when the size of the BOLT, isolator to motor mount was completely discuss'ed some time ago on BWBers and the hole in the isolator was being drilled out by those BUELLers that installed them to the OEM bolt size??? (Message edited by buellistic on July 27, 2011) | ||
| Kalali |
I don't remember the exact size but the new (center) bolt is definitely smaller than the old one. Either way time will tell how the new design will hold up. | ||
| Buellistic |
"AND" that is just what "i" said, "YOU ARE THE TEST PILOT" !!! | ||
| Ustorque |
Has anyone ever seen a cutaway of the old iso vs. the new? It would only make sense that if they shrunk the bolt that something on the internals of the iso itself was enlarged? Im still getting familiar with my S3, but this iso debate is very interesting! | ||
| Spiderman |
LMAO I'll be sure to pass that along to the engineers that worked on this. I am sure they will get a chuckle out of the fact you think they do not care about the people who bought and ride their bikes... | ||
| Buellistic |
Spiderman: "i" will make my own friends, "i" do not need your help ... If you really wanted to help anyone you would get this engineer to post the facts !!! | ||
| Fahren |
Bottom of the page on this link, there is a drawing of old Buell and "new." http://www.moccsplace.com/images/mount/mount.htm I'm sure a lot of engineering and testing went into making sure this change would work well on the tube-framed Buells. | ||
| Spiderman |
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| Ustorque |
Fahren, thanks! thats what i was curious to see! | ||
| Buellistic |
Fahren: "THANKS" for the "INFO" ... | ||
| Spiderman |
From a friend "Like I said before: you cant fix stupid but you can fix isolator problems." | ||
| Ustorque |
Ok, maybe dumb question, but in the link Fahren threw up the new iso pictured is a 16207-79D, but if I go on American Sportbike Al has iso 17025-B as the updated and newest design, I trust that Al would have his facts straight. Like i said im still getting to know my S3 but when the time comes I wanna be sure i get the right one. This debate remind me of the "Red seal vs. Black seal" wheel bearing saga! | ||
| Guell |
shawn, go with the updated buell part. Its specific to our bikes. | ||
| Ustorque |
Absolutely!!! What can I say, im an info junky! |
