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Timm
Posted on Friday, July 22, 2011 - 01:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I was riding in downtown boston last night with a friend. My bike hit 209 in traffic and thats with the ebr ecm that drops it about 15 degrees. Soo hot hot is too hot for this bike? And whats the hottest you have ever seen on ur 1125?

Side note my buddy next to me on his rc51 was pushing 240
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Froggy
Posted on Friday, July 22, 2011 - 01:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You will reach your thermal limit long before the bike does!
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Dennis_c
Posted on Friday, July 22, 2011 - 01:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It was 97 here yesterday thats way to hot. I have seen in the low 200 in traffic in a small town. No ebr ecm. Want to sell me yours????
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Ljm
Posted on Friday, July 22, 2011 - 01:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

208 sitting at a light in Phoenix. Outside air temperature, 112. However, the part about you reaching your thermal limit is no b.s. My air temp indicator, heat of the bike, heat of the asphalt, and surrounded by cars: 154 degrees. I had to pull over and go inside the quick stop or burst into flames.
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Geforce
Posted on Friday, July 22, 2011 - 02:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Get yourself a camel bak water hydration system for the hot days. Keep pulling that water in and try to stay hydrated. It will help immensely.
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Jdugger
Posted on Friday, July 22, 2011 - 03:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

At 230+ the bike goes into skip-spark and runs like crap.

I've seen 235 on a number of occasions. No long term damage to the motor.
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Jrfitzny
Posted on Friday, July 22, 2011 - 05:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

~215F this morning...get the snakeskin rubber grip for the frame so your thighs don't get baked.
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Azxb9r
Posted on Friday, July 22, 2011 - 05:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You will reach your thermal limit long before the bike does!

Some may, but for those of us that are used to the heat the bike starts to complain long before I do. In traffic during the summer my coolant temp is 220-230F. I have noticed that any time the ambient temp is over 100 my bike does not run as well, it pings under load, idles poorly, loses power, and does not like to start. As a result, I just dont ride it during the day in the summer months. I stick to early morning or nights. Even at that it still complains.
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Stargazer
Posted on Friday, July 22, 2011 - 10:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

210..., stock anti-freeze, Mobil1, now running Lucas synthetic 20-50W. The Lucas will drop it a few degrees as measured with a pyrometer.(According to a buddy of mine, unsubstantiated on my part, but, I trust his word.) I used to run Engine Ice in a CR450F and a YZ400 I owned with good success. Thinking about switching out the stock coolant for the Engine Ice, see what that does. My last ride was a '99 Busa, was not as hot on the thighs as this thing....But riding in 100 degree weather is hot no matter what bike your on.
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Swalker
Posted on Friday, July 22, 2011 - 10:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Been considering the engine ice for my cr, anybody know coolant capacity off the top of their head?
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Zac4mac
Posted on Friday, July 22, 2011 - 11:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Slightly OT -
I did a conversion, HP to BTU/Min.
146 HP = 6,191.5 BTU/Min.
If you aren't moving, you're in the middle of it.

That's why it's a hot ride.
Physics

I like the idea of a rear fan like the XBs...

Z
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Jdugger
Posted on Friday, July 22, 2011 - 11:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Pass on the engine ice and run distilled water with a bit of water wetter instead.
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Ohsoslow
Posted on Saturday, July 23, 2011 - 01:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

^^^this, just dont forget to change it back if it freezes in your area in the winter months
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Jacob83z28
Posted on Saturday, July 23, 2011 - 01:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've seen 225 in traffic.
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Ratgin
Posted on Saturday, July 23, 2011 - 08:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've seen 225 in traffic.

Same,, and its not happy.. engine light keeps coming on.

As a result its back in shop again..

week 6 so far this summer.
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Dmfb88
Posted on Saturday, July 23, 2011 - 10:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I was thinking of engine ice also since it does get below freezing here in Michigan. However I thought I read here that engine ice does not have the lubricants added for the water pump seals. Is this correct or am I mistaken
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Rodrob
Posted on Saturday, July 23, 2011 - 10:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

245 on the track.
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Skntpig
Posted on Monday, July 25, 2011 - 10:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I read on here that engine ice isn't recommended don't remember why.
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Jdugger
Posted on Monday, July 25, 2011 - 11:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

> I read on here that engine ice isn't
> recommended don't remember why.

To my knowledge, no good reason has ever been stated.

Here's the original post where Anonymous, of dubious authority, posts "don't".

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/290 431/473852.html?1246469102
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Jrfitzny
Posted on Monday, July 25, 2011 - 12:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hit my 230+ for the first time yesterday...but I was stopped. Once I started moving, she settled back down to ~219
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Blake
Posted on Monday, July 25, 2011 - 01:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Jdugger is mistaken about the "dubious authority". The anony poster's qualifications were in fact verified and approved.

"Ethylene glycol and propylene glycol play differently with different materials. Check the service manual. It calls out ethylene glycol specifically and there is a reason (a tested and confirmed reason)."
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Jdugger
Posted on Monday, July 25, 2011 - 02:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

> Jdugger is mistaken about the "dubious authority".

Great, then what were their credentials?

As has been stated before, sometimes "just trust me" isn't very convincing.
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Spank
Posted on Monday, July 25, 2011 - 02:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Put Amsoil in my bike and it's been hovering around 90+ degrees around here for the last week. City driving, I never saw it rise above 190.
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Xodot
Posted on Monday, July 25, 2011 - 02:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Is water wetter a propylene glycol based coolant ?

checked my bottle and their website but neither specify contents of the product. (IP I assume.)
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Jdugger
Posted on Monday, July 25, 2011 - 02:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

> Is water wetter a propylene glycol based coolant

No. It's a water softener / lubricant.

It provides only nominal anti-freeze properties, which is the point of using a glycol-based coolant.
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Davegess
Posted on Monday, July 25, 2011 - 03:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If an Anony poster is vetted by Blake or the other moderators than you can trust the credentials. If you don't trust Blake to be sure about this.. BTW I would say the credentials are likely to involve advanced degree in engineering along with access to Buell Motorcycle Company data.
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