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Xodot
| Posted on Friday, July 08, 2011 - 11:55 am: |
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During tech inspection at the track yesterday it was noted I had "slop" in the throttle - that is from the "at rest" position" the throttle would turn without activating anything. A quick turning of the throttle cable adjuster knob at the hand grip took up the slack. Now a twist of the throttle results in immediate and predictable engine response without the delay that was always there since new. The results on the track were amazing and I am not much of a rider. With slop in the cable the engine would come on BANG all of a sudden as I twisted the throttle on to come out of a turn and unsettle the rider and make confidence and predictability impossible for me. Now it is a completely different beast. As soon as the throttle is rolled on, so is the power nice and smooth letting me enter turns faster and get through the turn way smoother. I had the best day on the track and it was all because of this simple and (to some one else) obvious adjustment needed. I post this up in case you too have been "slopping about" the streets. |
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Chessm
| Posted on Friday, July 08, 2011 - 11:59 am: |
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weird that you didnt notice that |
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Jules
| Posted on Friday, July 08, 2011 - 12:18 pm: |
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Some "free play" is adviseable in your throttle for a variety of reasons, including the fact that when turning the bars some of the free play is taken up as the cables turn. If you had enough free play to call it "slop" and it made that much difference then really you shpuld've noticed that for yourself some time ago and not needed a tech inspection to point it out. When was the last time you checked your TPS settings? |
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1_mike
| Posted on Friday, July 08, 2011 - 04:09 pm: |
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That's one of the many adjustments that "should" be done right after leaving the dealers floor...! The throttle, the front brake, the rear brake, the shifter, the suspension...in no particular order...just do it. I also check the axles, calipers and steering head torques...from past experiences.. Mike |
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Xbniner
| Posted on Friday, July 08, 2011 - 04:27 pm: |
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I've tightened mine twice now, I think it gradually loosens, or mine has a slight bind, though i've never noticed it. |
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Jules
| Posted on Friday, July 08, 2011 - 05:01 pm: |
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The cable will stretch over time.... |
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1125rcya
| Posted on Friday, July 08, 2011 - 08:13 pm: |
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Thanks for bring that up.. I'll pay a little more attention my next twist of the throttle. If you help one person with your thread it worth more than all of these peoples complaints! |
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Xodot
| Posted on Friday, July 08, 2011 - 11:07 pm: |
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1125rcya - thanks for that! If you had enough free play to call it "slop" and it made that much difference then really you shpuld've noticed that for yourself some time ago and not needed a tech inspection to point it out. That's the point of the post Jules. I didn't know about it and given my lack of experience with motorcycles there could be NO expectation for me to realize it. I needed a mentor and found someone kind enough to share their vast knowledge (the guy teching the bike used to race pro) with an eager newbie. Isn't mentoring pretty much mandatory for any sport to thrive? Is it not selfish to withhold one's needed knowledge? I love BadWeb because of the guys who know and selflessly share without a hint of ego. |
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Zac4mac
| Posted on Friday, July 08, 2011 - 11:29 pm: |
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You made me grin Xodot. All to easy to be pompous with a newbie, one of MY big flaws.... You are SO right about mentoring, almost all of the weird, cool things I've learned were from cool OLD people, even some from"kids". Like a trip in the woods, Enjoy the good things here and ignore the pricks.
Z |
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Duphuckincati
| Posted on Saturday, July 09, 2011 - 12:09 am: |
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One must be aware of the amount of angst for many of the participants on this board. There is most likely a much higher percentage of Harley owners here than any other sport bike forum. These troubled souls were devout chromosexuals who are still dealing with their latent plastic sport bike desires, only recently feeling comfortable enough to come out of that closet and be able to find their pride with a Harley product. Sorta like finding out they can wear ass-less chaps with a bunch of other men and not feel gay. (not that there's anything wrong with that) Along with this coming out some still need to learn the more sensitive nature of the sport bike crowd compared to the rough and tumble culture of the Harley scene. So if you find yourself feeling insulted here, don't take it personally. |
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Kenm123t
| Posted on Saturday, July 09, 2011 - 12:21 am: |
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X thats was TOO funny ![](http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/clipart/bugout.gif) |
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Jules
| Posted on Saturday, July 09, 2011 - 04:57 am: |
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Quite honestly I don't give a toss whether people feel what I posted was inappropriate. It's patently obvious that there are some people who buy bikes without a clue as to how even the MOST BASIC of items operate. Personally I think they are a liability to themselves and others. Of course there is an expectation that any safelty related issue on a bike should be known by the rider... Who else is going to do it? If you don't know the basic stuff about your bike then do an evening course. If having learnt something you then share that information with others (as is the case here) I don't think it's an issue with posting that this is something everyone should know - because they should.. As for the purile comments about Harley owners etc - I seem to have stumbled into "kiddies corner" so I'll just walk out and close the door behind me... |
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Mcrbuelligan
| Posted on Saturday, July 09, 2011 - 06:09 am: |
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sensitive nature of the sport bike scene - I dont really think you have done your research well on that stereotypical comment - same goes for the comment on Harley riders havin a rough and tumble scene. Theres different levels in each bike scene fact. |
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Milezero5
| Posted on Saturday, July 09, 2011 - 08:05 am: |
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You made me grin Xodot. All to easy to be pompous with a newbie, one of MY big flaws.... You are SO right about mentoring, almost all of the weird, cool things I've learned were from cool OLD people, even some from"kids". Like a trip in the woods, Enjoy the good things here and ignore the pricks. +1 My best friends dad is that exact description, I look up to him quite a bit. The more you mention it, my throttle has felt kind of limp, time to adjust. |
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Duphuckincati
| Posted on Saturday, July 09, 2011 - 01:16 pm: |
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Jeez, you Limeys are a touchy bunch! |
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Froggy
| Posted on Saturday, July 09, 2011 - 01:22 pm: |
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quote:I love BadWeb because of the guys who know and selflessly share without a hint of ego.
They still exist? |
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Naiguy
| Posted on Saturday, July 09, 2011 - 01:34 pm: |
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Had neglected adjust for some time Did it this morning before ride down to work So much smoother Thanks for bringing to my attention |
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Mcrbuelligan
| Posted on Saturday, July 09, 2011 - 06:35 pm: |
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who said i am a limey |
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Jules
| Posted on Saturday, July 09, 2011 - 08:00 pm: |
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It's OK - he meant me... And I guess I am a limey.. Or at least I would be if this was still 1945.. But that'd make you all "septics", and I'd never say that in public. |
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Xodot
| Posted on Sunday, July 10, 2011 - 07:01 am: |
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OK Jules you got me hooked now on "septic" . I have a UK heritage but have never heard that term used. I'd like to keep that term in my back pocket to use it in an appropriate situation myself one day to stupefy those present. Can you share the meaning/source of that one with us???? Here is hoping it's cuter than the obvious.![](http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/clipart/beer2.gif) |
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Buellitup
| Posted on Sunday, July 10, 2011 - 08:21 am: |
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Sometimes I notice that a thread starts out useful and on subject, and then just spins wildly out of control with off topic garbage and people's opinions. I think the proper response to that is, "you must be new here", or "welcome to the internet". No snowflake in an avalanche feels responsible. |
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Mcrbuelligan
| Posted on Monday, July 11, 2011 - 06:00 am: |
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I thought he was refering to me being a sailor which I am not. A Septic meaning septic tank - yank . ryhming slang. |
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Jules
| Posted on Monday, July 11, 2011 - 06:38 am: |
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Back (ish) to the original topic... It's been mentioned before that the throttle cables "rub" on the fairing stay, on mine it had actually worn through the outer coating on the cable and the metal winding was exposed. it's not a big deal as the fairing protects the cables from the worst of the weather but it's still possible that some moisture could get in there and start the corrosion process. In addition, the continued rubbing on the fairing stay will mark that (lovely) piece and wear away the throttle cable itself. A strategically placed bit of tape around the cable will stop all of that... Although obviously a better looking solution is to remove the cable and slide some black heatshrink over the worn bit and shrink it in place.. It is unlikely that even if left to it's own devices this would cause any problems... it just looks "unsightly" on mine. (Message edited by jules on July 11, 2011) |