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Rpm4x4
| | Posted on Sunday, June 12, 2011 - 11:40 pm: | 
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I never let mine run after riding mine. I have 12K on mine. No fouled plugs and no stator issues. I dont let it warm up either. I just ride nice and easy for the first couple of miles. I would recommend the 1125 to anyone interested in a high performance motorcycle. |
Badlionsfan
| | Posted on Sunday, June 12, 2011 - 11:50 pm: |
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Ratgin
Posted on Sunday, June 12, 2011 - 08:41 pm:
I don't know if id recommend an 1125 until there is a fix that works for the stator failures.
It cant be relied upon and there isn't a true fix only a patch that postpones its demise.
He's looking at an '08. They don't have stator issues. |
Jdugger
| | Posted on Monday, June 13, 2011 - 08:50 am: |
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> I don't know if id recommend an 1125 until
> there is a fix that works for the stator
> failures.
I've owned three of these bikes and put probably 75,000 on them combined total.
I've NEVER had a charging issue, never had a stator failure (I have an '09 and an '08 with and '09 motor), and even on the '08 that supposedly didn't have enough generating power, I ran electric gear, GPS and radar detector with no issue.
If you look back at the "issues" this bike has had since '08, almost all of the major complaints have been guys lugging them around like cruisers. "Bad fueling", "the noid", and "poor charging/stator failures" are all a symptom of not keeping the revs up.
If there's ANY advice I'd give a new 1125r owner, especially one coming off an air-cooled, push-rod, unbalanced, big-bore twin, it's "keep the revs up."
And, yes, that means cruising at 5500RPM or so... I put 35,000 canyon miles on an 08 motor running between 5000 and 7500 rpm as a general rule with the ORIGINAL flash these bikes came with! Never one charging issue, never one "snatchy" fuel delivery issue or surging, and not a single 'noid engagement. 6k on the tach is "straight forward", and I think there's a reason!
Put simply: if you lug the mill, you'll hate the bike. Instead, downshift and smile... |
Syonyk
| | Posted on Monday, June 13, 2011 - 09:53 am: |
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Buddy of mine mentioned he heard something about having to let it run a little after u get off the bike after riding. Something about the plugs fouling?
*no* clue about this... I haven't fouled a plug yet and half the time I shut it down before I even stop rolling. It's just not an issue. I suspect earlier ECU flashes may have been more prone to plug fouling, but the recent 08 flash and the race ECU that you should put on it immediately have zero issues that I've seen.
It cant be relied upon and there isn't a true fix only a patch that postpones its demise.
Well, there *is* a true fix for the *09* stator issues, called a properly rewound stator.
And the "fix" for the 08 stators is "There is no fix, they're great, ride the wheels off it." If you were to sit idling in traffic all day with the high beams on and heated gear, yeah, you might have trouble with the 08, but you'd have trouble with almost any bike out there doing that. As long as you're moving, the 08 stator is just fine.
The only real complaint I have with the bike is that it's less-than-happy starting below about 20F - mine, at least, does not want to do it. I'm going to replace the battery before this next winter & see if that helps. |
Zac4mac
| | Posted on Monday, June 13, 2011 - 10:35 am: |
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My 1125R was delivered to my door December 18th 2007.
I live just north of Denver and ride all year, except when the roads are icy.
Just shy of 27k miles now - would be more but I also have a 2009 XB12X that has added 11k since getting it a year ago.
I have had a few "issues" but nothing that has kept her down more than a week or two.
Clutch weep(fixed), bad front exhaust cam(fixed), bad fuel/timing maps(fixed), switch died in IC(replaced with 09 IC).
I started running 10W-40 in the Winter 2 years ago and decided she likes that weight oil.
I now keep 10W-40 in her, year-round(Red Line).
I LOVE this bike.
Zack
Edited to remove primary reference... thinking about the Uly's I just changed....
(Message edited by zac4mac on June 13, 2011) |
Ratgin
| | Posted on Monday, June 13, 2011 - 11:09 am: |
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08s have clutch and ic issues.
09s have a minor clutch and major stator/vr issue.
I like my 1125r but it is not reliable until there is a factory solution that works for the stator issue and the part supply to fill the demand.
Telling me the "fix" for a bike with 2500 miles and year(s) left of warranty on it is to change out factory parts (at my expense and voiding warranty) for aftermarket parts is not a solution.
People who come here about to make a decision on a bike should be advised of the pros and the cons not just fed the cool-aid.
Awesome bike to ride on back roads.
Love sound, handling hell even the style.
BUT
It has reliability issues until the factory comes up with a solution and not a band-aid to get most people out of the warranty period |
Syonyk
| | Posted on Monday, June 13, 2011 - 11:51 am: |
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*shrug*
He's looking at an 08, so the stator isn't an issue, and the clutch/IC issues are relatively minor.
The 09 *has* a solid fix for the stator. It's just not a HD warranty solution, and they don't seem interested in doing anything but keeping bikes running until warranty is out.
If I had an 09, there's no question it would have a rewound stator on it.
I'm also fairly certain that changing out the stator for an aftermarket one doesn't void the warranty unless it's something caused by the aftermarket part - if the stator disintegrates and fills the oil with epoxy bits, yeah, that's a problem, but if the wheel bearings crap out, the stator being replaced can't void the warranty on unrelated parts.
Where in this thread did you see people being "fed the kool-aid"?. |
Froggy
| | Posted on Monday, June 13, 2011 - 03:34 pm: |
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quote:Telling me the "fix" for a bike with 2500 miles and year(s) left of warranty on it is to change out factory parts (at my expense and voiding warranty) for aftermarket parts is not a solution.
What if I told you my bike was fixed for good, under warranty, with OEM parts, and not the 2009 stator? Well, it was.
The fouling plugs thing was mostly with the air cooled bikes. What would happen is people would start the bike, show off the vroom vroom sound to their buddies, then shut it off. The bike would still be running rich due to cold starts, and often times can wet foul the plugs. The solution? Only start your bike if you are going to ride it. Regardless of brand, most wear and tear happens at startup, so avoid starting it if you aren't going to use it. |
Ratgin
| | Posted on Monday, June 13, 2011 - 05:08 pm: |
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"What if I told you my bike was fixed for good, under warranty, with OEM parts, and not the 2009 stator? Well, it was."
Then id say your dealer tossed a 2008 in your 2009 as a favor to a good customer.
Most dealers wont and just order the stock parts and toss them in.
I dont think my servicing dealer even sold an 1125r. They were redheaded step children at the dealership and i ended up riding 400 miles to buy mine from another dealer |
Ljm
| | Posted on Monday, June 13, 2011 - 05:50 pm: |
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Buy the 1125. I've had two sportsters and they are o.k., but...
The Mrs. and I have three 1125's between us and my oldest son has one. Major problems, clutch weep. Fixable with the upgrade parts. Cheap, easy to do. Otherwise, the bike has no more gremlins than any other bike or car, or whatever.
Of course you won't get the head turns the you would with the sporty and shotguns, but its a kick to ride. Well worth the money and as my son said," you get (Nissan) Skyline performance for almost nothing." FYI, his Skyline: twin turbo, 675 h.p., four wheel drive, four wheel steering fire breathing monster. Not bad company. LJM |
Rpm4x4
| | Posted on Monday, June 13, 2011 - 09:37 pm: |
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Telling me the "fix" for a bike with 2500 miles and year(s) left of warranty on it is to change out factory parts (at my expense and voiding warranty) for aftermarket parts is not a solution.
When you buy the bike at a crazy cheap blowout price, throwing another $130 at it doesnt seem like that big of a deal. If you want to stick it to HD and make them fix it on principle then so be it. Just dont say there is no solution because there is. Your warrantee would only be void if the failure was due to the part you installed. |
Thefleshrocket
| | Posted on Monday, June 13, 2011 - 10:47 pm: |
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I disagree with "keeping the revs up" as a necessity to compensate for potential charging issues on an '08. When I'm commuting or riding casually on my '08, I cruise at 3500-4000rpm and upshift at 4500rpm or so. A lot of the reason for having a liter-class twin is having a wide powerband so you don't have to live in the upper part of the RPM band if you aren't hauling ass.
When I had the stock ECM, the battery light NEVER came on. With the EB R ECM, the only time I've seen the battery light is when I shut the bike off hot, which lets the fans run for a minute or so, and then turning the key on a short time later, when the fans kick on full speed as soon as the key is turned on. Even when the battery light comes on under those circumstances, the bike starts easily and the light goes off within 5-10 seconds of starting it up. |
Fio835
| | Posted on Monday, June 13, 2011 - 11:11 pm: |
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Bought It! Picking it up this weekend
Thanks guys for the great tips!
Im glad that if I have any questions I can ask you guys. Thanks again,
Hotrats I'll be in touch |
Rpm4x4
| | Posted on Monday, June 13, 2011 - 11:18 pm: |
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I disagree with "keeping the revs up" as a necessity to compensate for potential charging issues
X2 I short shift all over town to keep my pipe from bothering people. I ride however I feel like riding. |
Rpm4x4
| | Posted on Monday, June 13, 2011 - 11:20 pm: |
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Bought It! Picking it up this weekend
Congrats! |
Jdugger
| | Posted on Monday, June 13, 2011 - 11:25 pm: |
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> I ride however I feel like riding.
I'd never suggest otherwise. My comments are purely from the perspective addressing bike issues with "you can adjust the bike, or adjust the rider."
In my case, I found it easier to just adjust me. |
Hybridmomentspass
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 14, 2011 - 09:02 am: |
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Did you buy it from Greensboro HD? |
Ratgin
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 15, 2011 - 07:46 pm: |
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"When you buy the bike at a crazy cheap blowout price, throwing another $130 at it doesnt seem like that big of a deal. If you want to stick it to HD and make them fix it on principle then so be it. Just dont say there is no solution because there is. Your warrantee would only be void if the failure was due to the part you installed."
First off your assuming i bought it after the blow out. I didn't as it was bought before the US fire sale.
Secondly Magnuson–Moss warranty protection is an American Law and does not apply to Canada.
Thirdly there is currently a debate going on if the rewinds are failing as well due to heat.
So please find someone who has went through the dealer for a 09 repair under warranty who has it replaced with 09 parts and the repair has lasted a decent time say 10k miles.
Until then there is no HD approved fix and until some people have 5-20k on there rewinds its all speculation that this repair is the cure. |
Therealassmikeg
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 15, 2011 - 11:04 pm: |
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So in a nutshell...
Yes You should buy it, and No You shouldn't.
Glad to hear you went for it! |
Tom_b
| | Posted on Thursday, June 16, 2011 - 12:24 am: |
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Buy it.. love my 08.. runs great thru corners and will bust 160 mph in a straight line.. Never had a plug or any other problem. a friend had an 08 till he totaled it with 13k miles,, never a reliability issue. reason i bought mine. best 6k i ever spent on a bike. the bike i wish my x-1 had been |
Fio835
| | Posted on Sunday, June 19, 2011 - 02:33 pm: |
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Bike is amazing! Put 90 miles on this morning. Love it. I have a minor clutch weep, i know it can be fixed easy under warrnty. Just wondering if its something I can do in say a few weeks or something I should get on right away? |
Pariah
| | Posted on Sunday, June 19, 2011 - 02:55 pm: |
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Mu! |
Carbonrider
| | Posted on Sunday, June 19, 2011 - 03:17 pm: |
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Very good decision, a great bike.
Grüße aus Ostfriesland
Hans |
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