| Author | Message | ||
     Dannybuell |
They like it big time! http://www.cycleworld.com/motorcycle_roadtest/firs t_rides_articles/11q2/erik_buell_racing_1190rs_-_e xclusive_first_ride  | ||
| Jdugger |
I have no doubt the 1190RS deserves all the praise it's getting, but keep in mind that article was written by Steve Anderson. As a former Buell design engineer turned journalist, I don't doubt for a second he put every effort into an objective first ride, but it's hard to imagine how he wouldn't be excited, and perhaps just at a titch of a predisposition. It's nice to see Erik Buell Racing get press, though. Very nice. | ||
| Boogiman1981 |
I liked the read. I also liked the American Super Power bit in the motorcyclist magazine too. at least I think it was motorcyclist may have been cycle world. | ||
| Easyrider |
come to europe baby....  | ||
| Dirty_john |
Oh yes bring it to UK asap and I might delay the purchase of a Ducati 1198 SP that I am thinking of | ||
| Tsnake |
+1 easyrider and need some cheaper non carbon version for poor guys like me! | ||
| Boogiman1981 |
that's all bolt on o our bikes. hopefully they will get enough ahead on production to be able to offer engines and other bits like that dead sexy tail section to the rest of us. | ||
| Jdugger |
> that's all bolt on o our bikes. [...] > like that dead sexy tail section to the rest of us. That isn't "just a bolt on", unfortunately. It requires either a different wiring harness or some pretty significant modifications to the one you have. It may also require you to use a Li battery for space reasons. | ||
| Fresnobuell |
but keep in mind that article was written by Steve Anderson. +1. I enjoy the Buell love, but I will keep my fingers crossed the previous critics of Buell will start loving on the 1190RS. I have a feeling they might on this Erik Buell Racing bike. | ||
| Davegess |
former Buell design engineer turned journalist, Actually he is a former Editor of Cycle and then a Contributing Editor at Cycle World, an accident reconstruction expert and a MIT grad BEFORE he became involved with Buell. While he has been very close to Buell he has a well deserved reputation for fairness, accuracy and lack of bias in his reporting. His impression is as good as you are going to get. My only cravat would be that is he is likely understate how good the bike is to compensate for any perceived bias. This thing has to be nutty good. | ||
| Fresnobuell |
Should be pretty good press as the race bike will start its AMA season soon--just about the time of the press launch I would assume. One thing for sure. It will be exciting even tho it's not anything most of us can afford....yet. | ||
| Jdugger |
> This thing has to be nutty good. I don't doubt that it is. I still think it's reasonable to document the association as part of normal disclosure. | ||
| Ezblast |
Only if the publisher wants it there - that is always the last word on what gets printed. EZ | ||
| Court |
That is an excellent assessment of how I'd describe it as well...... | ||
| D_adams |
Mounted under the swingarm at the back of the motor for more mass centralization.  | ||
| Ratbuell |
That is an excellent assessment of how I'd describe it as well...... Court...are you going to make me dislike you by telling me you've also ridden the 1190RS? Ok. Tell me how it was first (this is your "reminder")...THEN I'll proceed to dislike you. | ||
| Sportster_mann |
I'd like to know if they've resolved the clutch leak issue ! | ||
| Court |
>>>Court...are you going to make me dislike you by telling me you've also ridden the 1190RS? I have not. I've never even thrown a leg over an 1125R. I'm more enthralled with the process and people at this point . . the development of this bike has been nothing short of miraculous. It will take many folks . . who are thinking this is a "hopped up 1125R" a while to figure out this is nearly a ground up new bike. Amazing people . . amazing product. . and an amazing write up. | ||
| Jdugger |
> Mounted under the swingarm at the back of the motor for more mass centralization. There's a spot for an Li battery in the 1190 subframe under the seat. It's on the rider's right, parallel to the shock. I'm not sure there's a logical space under the swingarm, honestly, that also serves the purpose well of protecting the battery. At least, not with an 1125r swing arm. That mounting approach would also introduce a lot of unsprung weight... | ||
| Ratbuell |
OK, just checking  I'm completely enthralled with my 1125CR - despite having made myself park it for a while because of other issues - and I can safely say that you are missing out. The 1125 is a spectacular platform - how could it not be, given its pedigree and its creators? - and I do recommend you throw a leg over either an 1125 or an 1190 if you get a chance. Just....no fields, OK? I, personally, cannot wait to see an 1190. If nothing else, I want to personally compare and catalog as many of the differences as I can between the platforms. I think that will be as fascinating - to me, anyway - as noting the similarities and evolution of the species. And, I love the look of the race muffler on #11. Much as I understand and appreciate the need and execution of the dual-can system...that motorcycle just looks "right" with a stubby race can tucked underneath, and no passenger pegs whatsoever. | ||
| Steve_a |
BTW, the 1190RS has a modification to the alternator to fix the stator over-temp issues that have appeared on some 2009/2010 1125s. (the 2008s had a different, lower-output alternator, and don't have any issues). The RS cools the stator with an oil jet, an orifice, if I have it right, that's newly machined into the alternator rotor, an operation that can be done, as I understand it, on old parts. When word or parts get out, I think it will be a popular modification. | ||
| D_adams |
Jim, you misunderstood where I would mount it. I said under the swingarm, but not actually bolted up to it. I'd mount it attached off the back of the motor, provided there's actually enough room there. I don't know how big (or little) that battery actually is. | ||
| Jdugger |
> I'd mount it attached off the back of the motor, > provided there's actually enough room there. Personally, I think it's going to cause exhaust/bellypan/clearance issues. The Li batteries are dramatically smaller and lighter than the stock 1125r battery, but that's still a challenging placement on these bikes. | ||
| Craigg |
Wonder if the fairings and belly pan would fit the 1125R without much effort. Though it would be pricey as carbon fiber i bet. Maybe they would make a fiberglass version. | ||
| Steve_a |
Hi Craigg, Retrofitting the fairing to a 1125R is a little tricky, as it would require the new radiator/oil-cooler package, which, because these are hand-made by a Spanish company that also does GP and World Superbike cooling systems, are a tad expensive, to say the least. The radiators cost more than the fairing does in carbon fiber. The radiators also require the 1125RR/1190RR recent exhaust system, the one with the front head pipe running straight down. The good news is that the fairing is already available in either a very high-quality prepreg glass fabrication, or the carbon. But by the time you got all the parts you needed to fit the fairing, you'd have spent very much more than you would buying a good 2009 1125 -- but a whole lot less than buying an 1190. Also, steering lock is going to be pretty limited with clip-ons and a 1125 frame. Those sexy shapes on an 1190 frame are for hand clearance. | ||
| Froggy |
Steve, thank you again for another fantastic article | ||
| Mountainstorm |
What Froggy said +2. I enjoyed every word and every picture. I now some 'splaining to do to my kids when they get older and wonder why Dad spent their college fund on a motorcycle  | ||
| Geforce |
Steve... don't tell me that you got to ride the bike and didn't happen to pop a "GoPro" or equivalent camera on your helmet or the front fairing somewhere... Video man! Video! Thank you for the article. I have always enjoyed your style of comparison and imagery that you bring along. Regardless of what others say about your "love affair" with Buell. I always enjoy the flow and detail in your work. Alright Erik Buell Racing... you got our attention again. What's next? | ||
| Boogiman1981 |
J- yes i figured it would be more than just an afternoon to swap parts. so i guess bolt on wasnt the best choice of words. they will fit the bike structurally though i guess is what i was trying to say. | ||
| Duphuckincati |
"Similarly, there’s not a hint of stand-up under braking, revised steering geometry burying that old Buell bugaboo" What is the revision? |
