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Xodot
Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2011 - 03:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have set my rider sag front and rear correctly and moved on to experience the effect of compression and rebound adjustments.

I found I had been riding pretty close to the minimum damper settings for compression and rebound on the shock and forks (even on the track).... so I set everything to the extreme minimum damper settings for comp and reb and am trying that out for comparision.

The bike was originally set up with almost no dampening and was quite the bother trying to manage around a bend.

Rides fine for me now at 185 body weight on the early '08 R.

Anyone else with similar adjustments??
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Zac4mac
Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2011 - 09:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I weigh maybe 160 in full gear and find "just firmer than minimal" setting on my 08 just right for general riding.

My last ride in the hills, with a friend, I was in 4th-6th running 60-65 thru the 25-30 mph twisties.
It was SMOOOOTH like riding a Softail thru the cornfields, just a little faster.

Zack
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Mountainstorm
Posted on Friday, May 13, 2011 - 02:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

With my other Buells I spent hours and hours tinkering with the settings. Ride, tinker, ride, tinker. The Uly seemed to benefit the most from these attentions.

For the 1125r I just adjusted it to the suggested settings for my weight and it seems just right. I was truly surprised. So after that initial set up I left it. If I were doing some track days I bet letting the Computrack guys set it up would be a real eye opener for me, but for the street it seems perfect as is.
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Thefleshrocket
Posted on Friday, May 13, 2011 - 03:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I often like to ride around wearing just my underwear and some sunglasses.

Oh wait, that's not the kind of minimalistic rider that you meant?
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Bueller4ever
Posted on Friday, May 13, 2011 - 05:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What do you mean by minimal damping? do you mean you set rebound by turning it to full soft (couter clockwise), then turn it back clockwise until it stops pogoing?
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Ratgin
Posted on Friday, May 13, 2011 - 08:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ive had lunches that weigh more then Xodot
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Xodot
Posted on Friday, May 13, 2011 - 08:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What do you mean by minimal damping?

I mean setting the compression and rebound to the minimum setting - yes Buellforever, turn to full soft, as soft as they will go but then leave it there. I don't have any pogo action at full soft comp and rebound.

Mine had been set by an a pro (in other words he charged me for his work) and they were only a 1/2 in from full soft comp and rebound. I had no complaints. I didn't know what they were set to until I got "tinkering" with them the other night. So I went to full soft with no ill effect on the street. Handles better around town with full soft.

I have a track day next week and I'll try a session with them full soft and see if I can notice a difference. I anticipate needing to firm them up a 1/2 turn each. Just curious enough to try. I am still learning about suspension effects on handling. It's all new to me.

Mountain - I have gone to the book values and found the settings too firm for my liking/ability.
Fleshrocket - nice one!
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Bueller4ever
Posted on Friday, May 13, 2011 - 09:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you bounce the front of your bike, it doesn't keep bouncing? When you hit a bump, the rear end doesn't come up and kick you in the butt? Do you ride aggressively?

I can't imagine hitting a bump, while leaned way over in a corner, with no rebound damping.
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Xodot
Posted on Monday, May 16, 2011 - 01:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Bueller4ever-
If you bounce the front of your bike, it doesn't keep bouncing? NO

When you hit a bump, the rear end doesn't come up and kick you in the butt? NO

Do you ride aggressively? I TRY!

I'll be on track Thursday and see how it feels. Last track day was my best time out and the comp and rebound were set almost to full soft.

I think there must be some damping at those "full soft" settings - there must be or else I would get handling like you describe.??? NO?
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Bueller4ever
Posted on Monday, May 16, 2011 - 05:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well your weight is damping the rebound of the forks and obviously the oil is always acting as a damper. Naturally their is some damping going on even at full soft, but if you bounce the front end without you on the bike it will continue to bounce like a car with blown shocks. If it doesn't, then something isn't right.
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