| Author | Message | ||
     Agusta74 |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buell_motor_company Just started this 10 minutes ago. It's a Wikipedia page for the "Buell Motor Company" up until the first HD buy out and the name change to "Buell Motorcycle Company". If anyone wants to fill in more detail then please do... I will add more when I can. Regards Gavin RS1200 number 59 | ||
| Fahren |
Checked your link - Already deleted by Wikipedia... | ||
| Sdecp |
Somebody needs to punch Acroterion (Wikipedia Moderator) in the mouth. | ||
| Pellis |
what's wrong with this page? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buell_Motorcycle_Comp any | ||
| Davegess |
Somebody who knows how to work in WP needs to send that moderator a note explaining what the deal is. There should be a Pittsburgh Performance Products page also. | ||
| Blake |
Wikipedia is over-run with jerks like that. I too learned the hard way. I do my darnedest to avoid the place. | ||
| Fahren |
Pellis, re-read the OP's explanation, 1st post above. Motor /= Motorcycle, for the old school purists out there : - ) | ||
| Blake |
I put a comment on the "Discussion" page for your deleted page Gavin, but there is no link to perform an undelete. You'll have to re-enter your article. Another thing you might try is what they suggest prior to posting new articles... You can also start your new article at Special:MyPage/Buell motor company. There, you can develop the article with less risk of deletion; ask other editors to help work on it; and move it into "article space" when it is ready. | ||
| Blake |
I think you should also capitalize all three words in Buell_Motor_Company. | ||
| Hybridmomentspass |
was there any reason given for the delete? | ||
| Agusta74 |
Ok I give up, what a waste of my time and frustration creator that was!!!! I apologize for starting this thread, I had no idea what they were like. Pack of idiots at Wikipedia. What's wrong with the Buell MotorCycle Company page? Factually incorrect in places... I TRIED to correct it and they reversed the corrections!!! Insane. I guess history is going to be controlled by idiots at Wikipedia that know nothing. Oooooooo I am pissed. Later! Gavin | ||
| Hybridmomentspass |
Gavin, you tried and thats more than anyone else on here did, so thanks for trying. As for History, hopefully if people are researching Buell/Erik Buell etc they'll find their way here where the information is abundant | ||
| Agusta74 |
Ok, I am to stubborn to give up that easy after all... here is a first very basic draft of a potential Buell Motor Company page. Please tell me what else we should have, including descriptions of the different models and pictures of each model. Ideas and corrections welcome. Court and Dave, am I able to name your book as a reference?? I have no idea at all about the legal copyright implications that might have for you or me? Please advise! --------------------------------------- "The Buell Motor Company" was formally incorporated as a Wisconsin company February 26, 1987 by Erik Buell to build motorcycles and ran until February 3rd 1993 when Harley Davidson bought 49% and the name was changed to the "Buell Motorcycle Company". The Buell Motor Company built 443 bikes in total including race bikes. The bikes were all hand built by a small team. Models. Buell Show Bike, production 1 Lucifer's Hammer Race Bike, production 1 RR1000 1987 production 50. XR1000 Harley Davidson powered. RR1200 1988 9 produced. 1989 34 produced. 1990 16 produced. Powered by a four speed Harley Davidson XL1200 Sportster engine. RS1200 1989 7 produced. 1990 95 produced. Powered by a four speed Harley Davidson XL1200 Sportster engine. RS1200/5 1991 67 produced. 1992 30 produced. 1993 3 produced. Powered by a five speed Harley Davidson XL1200 Sportster engine. RSS1200 1991 40 and 15 kit bikes produced. 1992 68 produced. 1993 6 produced Powered by a five speed Harley Davidson XL1200 Sportster engine. RR1200 SP 1993 production 1 Powered by a five speed Harley Davidson XL1200 Sportster engine. | ||
| Hybridmomentspass |
wouldnt the RW be considered in that too? It was before any buyout | ||
| Agusta74 |
I think the two RW machines are not included because they were built under the Pittsburgh Performance Products company name? BUT if that was the case then the.... Buell Show Bike, production 1 Lucifer's Hammer Race Bike, production 1" ....maybe should not be included either as the Buell Motor Company was not formally incorporated when they were built? Comments from those who where their?? Regards Gavin | ||
| Davegess |
You can certainly call out our book as as reference. In fact I would appreciate it. | ||
| Davegess |
Those early bike should be under PPP I think. | ||
| 46champ |
Learn something new everyday. I didn't realize that the Vetter show bike and Lucifer's hammer II race bike wern't part of the 50 bike RR1000 production run | ||
| Crackhead |
Does Erik still own Buell Motor Company? or des HD own both Buell Motorcycle company and Buell Motor company? | ||
| Court |
Harley-Davidson owns ONLY Buell Motorcycle Company and BDC. | ||
| Hybridmomentspass |
bdc? | ||
| Court |
Sure . . Buell Distribution Corporation. Buell MOTORCYCLE Company . . . did ONLY a couple things . . . pretty much design and build motorcycles. The moment the crate broke the plane of the door it was purchased by Buell Distribution Corporation. They handled all dealer relations, contracts, parts, warranty, legal, events, shipping, media, advertising and so forth. When HD dumped Buell that was one of the questions I asked . . . what is going to happen to all the folks at BDC. Some of these folks were making good money and spending a significant portion of their time on Buell. Turns out that HD had to hire back some Elves. The story gets:
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| Agusta74 |
Thanks for the imput guys... here is my latest work in progress.... ------------------------------------------- "The Buell Motor Company" was formally incorporated as a Wisconsin company February 26, 1987 by Erik Buell. It went on to build 441 motorcycles until Feburary 3rd 1993 when Harley Davidson bought 49% of the bussiness and a new company called the "Buell Motorcycle Company" was formed and went on to built well over 100 thousand Buell motorcycles until it closed in 2009. Motorcycles that were built before the Buell Motor Company was formed were built by Erik Buell under his company Pittsburgh Performance Products. Pittsburgh Performance Products models. RW, production 2 Buell Show Bike, production 1 Lucifer's Hammer Race Bike, production 1 The Buell Motor Company built 441 motorcycles in total. All were hand built by a small team. RR1000 1987 production 50. XR1000 Harley Davidson powered. RR1200 1988 9 produced. 1989 34 produced. 1990 16 produced. Powered by a four speed Harley Davidson XL1200 Sportster engine. RS1200 1989 7 produced. 1990 95 produced. Powered by a four speed Harley Davidson XL1200 Sportster engine. RS1200/5 1991 67 produced. 1992 30 produced. 1993 3 produced. Powered by a five speed Harley Davidson XL1200 Sportster engine. RSS1200 1991 40 and 15 kit bikes produced. 1992 68 produced. 1993 6 produced Powered by a five speed Harley Davidson XL1200 Sportster engine. RR1200 SP 1993 production 1 Powered by a five speed Harley Davidson XL1200 Sportster engine. | ||
| Court |
>>>when Harley Davidson bought 49% of the business Harley-Davidson bought nothing. A new corporation was formed . . in fact two were. The one you want to talk about was Buell Motorcycle Company of which Harley-Davidson owned 49%. There were a number of other machinations to make things work but that sufficiently and accurately gets you where you are headed. | ||
| Agusta74 |
Great stuff Court, thanks! This read ok now? ------------------------- "The Buell Motor Company" was formally incorporated as a Wisconsin company February 26, 1987 by Erik Buell. It went on to build 441 motorcycles until February 3rd 1993 when a new corporation was formed called the Buell Motorcycle Company, 49% of which was owned by Harley-Davidson, 51% by Erik Buell. ----------------------- | ||
| Littlebuggles |
That post above (May 12 9:06pm) should have a permanent place in the KV(with Courts corrections). Just sayin'... If Wiki doesn't want to be the source for [knowledge of] all things Buell, Badweb should continue to be. Good stuff, thanks Augusta, keep it up! | ||
| Agusta74 |
Next might be a brief description and spec of each model.... not every detail, but enough to tell them apart etc... unless someone else beats me to it, when I get time I will write up something for each model and post them here for corrections or additions. Regards Gavin | ||
| Agusta74 |
My next post will be my latest draft of my Buell Motor Company wiki page work in progress... I have no ego in this so if I have made mistakes or omissions then please tell me so we can get it right. My specs for the RR models need expanding but I don't have much info to hand. Did the RR1000 have 16 inch wheels? The RR1200 17 inch?? What was the spec and history of the RR1200 SP built in 1993? Regards Gavin 1990 RS1200 Number 59 | ||
| Agusta74 |
2 hours later and I have a new version already so I deleted the one that was here and will post the new one here now..... History "The Buell Motor Company" was formally incorporated as a Wisconsin company February 26, 1987 by Erik Buell. It went on to build 441 hand build motorcycles at his farm near Mukwonago, until February 3rd 1993 when a new corporation was formed called the "Buell Motorcycle Company", 49% of which was owned by Harley-Davidson, 51% by Erik Buell. The new company went on to built well over 100 thousand motorcycles until it closed in 2009. Motorcycles that were built before the Buell Motor Company was formed were built by Erik Buell's company Pittsburgh Performance Products. Pittsburgh Performance Products models. RW750 1984, 2 produced. Square four two stroke engine. Buell Show Bike 1985, 1 produced. Powered by a Harley Davidson XR1000 engine, debuted January 1986. Lucifer's Hammer 2 1986, 1 produced. Powered by a Harley Davidson XR1000 engine, AMA racer. The Buell Motor Company models. RR1000 1987, 50 produced. Powered by a four speed Harley Davidson XR1000 engine. Fully faired with a single seat. RR1200 1988, 9 produced. 1989, 34 produced. 1990, 16 produced. Powered by a standard four speed Harley Davidson XL1200 Sportster engine. Fully faired with a single seat. RR1200 SP 1993, 1 produced. Powered by a standard five speed Harley Davidson XL1200 Sportster engine. Fully faired with a single seat. RS1200 1989, 7 produced, all Curacao Blue Metallic 1990, 95 produced, Curacao Blue Metallic, red or white. Powered by a standard four speed Harley Davidson XL1200 Sportster engine. Three quarter fairing with most of the engine exposed. 17 inch Performance Machine wheels and Works Performance rear shock, Marzocchi M1R 42mm forks with ACT anti-dive. Triple disc brakes, Gambler rear caliper. Very early bikes have 4 piston Buell front calipers, later machines have 4 piston Performance Machine calipers. Two into one Supertrapp exhaust under the engine to the left of the rear shock. All fibre glass body work with a flip up back rest for the pillion. RS1200/5 1991, 67 produced. 1992, 30 produced. 1993, 3 produced. Powered by a standard five speed Harley Davidson XL1200 Sportster engine. Three quarter fairing with most of the engine exposed. 17 inch Performance Machine wheels and Works Performance rear shock, White Power inverted forks (without ACT anti-dive). Single 320 front disc brake with 6 piston caliper, Gambler rear caliper. Two into one Supertrapp Exhaust under the engine to the left of the rear shock. All fibre glass body work with a flip up back rest for the pillion. Colours included Candied Ruby Red, White Pearl, Curacao Blue Metallic and Gunmetal Gray Pearl with custom colors available. Some things changed over the three year production run, the most obvious change is the one piece fairing on the 1991 machines being replaced with a three piece fairing for 1992 and 1993. RSS1200 1991, 40 complete and 15 kit bikes produced. 1992, 68 produced. 1993, 6 produced Powered by a standard five speed Harley Davidson XL1200 Sportster engine. Three quarter fairing with most of the engine exposed. 17 inch Performance Machine wheels and Works Performance rear shock, White Power inverted forks (without ACT anti-dive). Single 320 front disc brake with 6 piston caliper, Gambler rear caliper. Two into one Supertrapp Exhaust under the engine to the left of the rear shock. All fibre glass body work with single seat. Colours included Candied Ruby Red, White Pearl, Curacao Blue Metallic and Gunmetal Gray Pearl with custom colors available. Some things changed over the three year production run, the most obvious change is the one piece fairing on the 1991 machines being replaced with a three piece fairing for 1992 and 1993. The RSS has an oil temperature gauge on the dash and an oil cooler. (Message edited by agusta74 on May 14, 2011) |
