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Syonyk
Posted on Wednesday, May 04, 2011 - 12:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Currently, I've got Amsoil in the Blast. I did this before I realized just how much oil these things like to dump overboard at high RPM... and most of our riding is highway.

What's a good oil for them that's cheap in bulk? Diesel truck oil? I know some people who like Rotella.

I'm not looking for dirt cheap oil, just something that's not $10/qt to rustproof the side of the bike under the airbox.
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Wednesday, May 04, 2011 - 12:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You might want to consider going to a heavier oil for the summer. My guess is your weather is warm enough to get away with it. If I'm not using Redline, I use Valvoline and never anything under 20w-50, so I'm not much help there.

Have you done the PCV breather modification?
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Wednesday, May 04, 2011 - 12:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

PS Why does your profile say 1125R?
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Ezblast
Posted on Wednesday, May 04, 2011 - 12:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mobil 1 15/50
EZ
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Wednesday, May 04, 2011 - 09:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mobil 1 comes in 20w-50 now. Its a better choice for the Blast or any of the twins.
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Syonyk
Posted on Wednesday, May 04, 2011 - 11:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm running Amsoil 20W-50 in the Blast right now (and the 1125R).

Heavier than 20W50? I didn't know one could easily obtain such things. I've not done the PCV modification - just turned the nozzle away from the carb intake when I had the airbox cover off. On my list...

My profile says 1125R because I hadn't updated it with my other two Buells. The Blast is mostly for my gf, but I maintain it.

I'll see what the cost on Mobil 1 is - I thought it was comparable to Amsoil.
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Ezblast
Posted on Wednesday, May 04, 2011 - 06:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Motorcycle oil is 20/50, car oil is still 15/50 - and still the preferred of most long term riders - lol
EZ
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Syonyk
Posted on Wednesday, May 04, 2011 - 06:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Huh... I ran 20W50 in all my RX-7s.
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Ezblast
Posted on Wednesday, May 04, 2011 - 07:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Castrol sucks - we are talking synthetic only - Mobil comes in 15/50 for cars rather inexpensively, or the motorcycle oil that is twice as much at 20/50 weight. The differences are very minor. I'm still waiting for Penzoil to come out with a synth 15/50 - so I can switch to that - lol -
EZ
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Wednesday, May 04, 2011 - 10:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

40w is readily available. 50w is somewhat available. 60w can be found. Usually Valvoline, and Kragen seems to carry the 60w. Kendall also makes engine oil up to 70 weight. And Redline makes a 20w-60 specifically for Harley engines.

Above 60 deg. you can use 50w. Above 80 deg. You can use 60w.
Heavyweight oil and getting rid of the PCV hose to the airbox completely should reduce oil consumption. The heavy oil isnt any more expensive either.
The Blast will go through thin oil very, very, quickly, especially in the desert climates.

Whenever someone has a problem the first thing I check is the profile for related information.

I'd still never trust an air cooled HD engine to anything less than 20w-50, synthetic or otherwise, unless it was winter. I've seen them go through thin oil at an unbelievable rate.
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Syonyk
Posted on Wednesday, May 04, 2011 - 11:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hm... alright, I'll look at going with a straight heavier weight. It's definitely going through about a quart per 1000-1500 miles, and given that it's averaging 1000 mi/mo right now, that's significant : )
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Ezblast
Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2011 - 12:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ahhh - they are like Irishmen, keep feeding them their drink and they are good! I like to keep keep it slippery, If I loose a bit in the process - I just break out the flask and add some more! -
lol
EZ
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Swampy
Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2011 - 08:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

How many miles do you have on the Blast? It takes 4-5 thousand miles before they get in their groove and break in....

Are you over-filling the Blast?

The way to check oil is engine hot immediately after shutting the engine off.
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Themagster
Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2011 - 09:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I had have had good luck with Mobil 1 15/50. Couldn't really say how much I go through because I always keep a quart in my saddlebag and check every other gas stop, never letting it drop below the bottom mark. I change it every 3,000 miles and add more to my saddlebag as needed, so I guess I am not much either, other than to say I like the Mobil 1. I did use Amsoil for a while some years back FWIW, didn't notice any real difference between it and the Mobil 1 other than price/availability.

Just my two cents.
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Nurider
Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2011 - 11:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wow it still surprises me the amount of information on this forum... I love it!!
Anyway I see there was a mention of a PCV modification can someone provide me a description or a link to what that is? My PCV valve is broke right now.
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Ezblast
Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2011 - 05:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Get a new grommet as well. Its just a hose reroute - face valve so hose is pointed towards the front, then loop it around to the back, remember to put on some foam tape where it will touch the frame edges.
EZ
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2011 - 09:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Concur. Thats all it is and its very simple to do. You can run it anywhere you want. Just remember that oil may spew out of it in large amounts, so down low is the best option (at least until you find out how much oil your Blast will spew).
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Titusand
Posted on Monday, May 09, 2011 - 09:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The Harley dealer sells conventional for $6.75, why not use that?
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Monday, May 09, 2011 - 10:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

cuz its cheaper just about everywhere else?
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Monday, May 09, 2011 - 10:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Not that theres anything wrong with it. I just figure if you dont want to shell out for synthetic, go for the cheapest you can find.
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Ezblast
Posted on Monday, May 09, 2011 - 11:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You can get Mobil at a great price at Wally world -
EZ
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Titusand
Posted on Monday, May 09, 2011 - 11:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just discovered how CHEAP Wal-Mart sells synthetic oil- that's the place to go. It's amazing.
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Ezblast
Posted on Tuesday, May 10, 2011 - 12:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yuppers - for 3 quarts at Kragen I can buy 5 at Wally world, and the Blast filter in the Mobil number is there inexpensively as well - so you can go top shelf pretty inexpensively. Being an accountant - I look for those things - lol
EZ

(Message edited by ezblast on May 10, 2011)
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Swampy
Posted on Tuesday, May 10, 2011 - 04:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

They don't sell 20W-50 at our Wally Worlds, it is too cold for anybody to run it.....but me!

So I have to use Amsoil, because they are the sponsor for Erik Buell Racing!
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Ezblast
Posted on Saturday, May 14, 2011 - 03:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Amsoil is it!
EZ
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