| Author |
Message |
    
Blake
| | Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2011 - 11:35 pm: | 
|
>>> The srories of the XB’s or 1125’s catching up on the mountain pass etc are a nice idea, but in reality are BULL!!!
Tell that to the guy on the R1 who I passed going over the Hawk's Nest in NJ on my Cyclone, fully loaded with saddle bags and tail bag. It's not bull. It's also not the bike. I agree that it comes down to the rider and individual comfort zones or even proper suspension setup and tire pressures.
I pretty much agree with the rest of what you state.
That said, the results of Eslick indicate handling is amazing. The results of Pegasus Race Team indicate a lot more to come. No one is claiming any Buell to be a world beater, yet.  |
Rodrob
| | Posted on Friday, May 06, 2011 - 10:31 am: |
|
There are two adjustments that I have made that have improved the handling of my bike more that anything else.
1. Adjustable footpegs. Put in a more forward position, I am now able to keep my weight more centered (I'm 5'8"), especially during braking and turn entry.
2. I routinely ride with only my finger tips and thumbs on the grips, or one handed.
The latter improved the handling and stability of my bike more that any of expensive hardware mods that I have done. Both exercises have taught me how to ride without using the bars for support and have eliminated the erroneous steering inputs that are transmitted from the bikes movement on the road, through my arms, to the bars. Steering dampers have a place, but mostly dampen unnecessary steering inputs from the rider, unless the bike is way out of whack. As I have improved in this technique, I have been able to reduce my steering damper setting to almost 0. |
Thefleshrocket
| | Posted on Friday, May 06, 2011 - 11:05 am: |
|
In regards to the 600 vs. 1125, I'll throw in my 2 cents. On a tight, twisty, bumpy road, I have a hard time keeping up with my buddies on 600s when riding my 1125R. I can catch up on the straights, as we generally keep our speed up in the corners but don't go blasting down the straightaways. On that same road with either my F2 or my 675, I have no problem running with the lead bike. The 1125 simply isn't as flickable or nimble as the smaller displacement bikes.
Now when it comes to higher-speed roads with sweepers and the like, the 1125 can stretch its legs and outrun the smaller-displacement bikes.
It's been my experience that a bike's nimbleness is inversely proportional to its engine displacement--the larger the engine, the less nimble the bike will be. That's why a 750 would theoretically be the best compromise between power and flickability--I'd like a bit more power than my 675 has, but not at significant cost of nimbleness. |
Fresnobuell
| | Posted on Friday, May 06, 2011 - 01:16 pm: |
|
Flesh--Have you made it a habit to keep the RPMS down a bit while trying to flick the bike? I remember someone saying Danny Eslick had to short shift going into some corners (chicanes?) because the gyroscopic force of the big twin would make it too hard to flick. I have since felt what he was experiencing.
There is a BIG difference in the flickability of the bike at mid range RPMs versus the top of the rev range. |
Thefleshrocket
| | Posted on Friday, May 06, 2011 - 02:36 pm: |
|
No, I haven't tried short shifting. On the tight twisty road, I usually have the RPMs up (much of it is first or second gear stuff) so I can rely more on engine braking. I'm sure the gyroscopic effect of the motor does affect flickability, so I'll try that road a little differently next time. |
Blake
| | Posted on Monday, May 09, 2011 - 02:05 pm: |
|
Speaking of riding on public roads as if on a race track, "trying to keep up with", etc always concerns me. It's a REALLY dumb thing to do. It also speaks much more to relative rider comfort level than anything else. The faster riders in a group will always be the faster riders, pretty much no matter what sport bike they are on.
Be safe out there, please. |
Dannybuell
| | Posted on Monday, May 09, 2011 - 03:12 pm: |
|
The decelleration is sometimes a confidence issue with me. Feeling the decel feedback assures me of contact with the road. |
Buellrain
| | Posted on Monday, May 09, 2011 - 04:10 pm: |
|
I agree with “Flesh”, I used to have an F3 a while ago and remember it feeling more flickable then my CR, however there’s no denying that the Buell’s are a lot of fun to ride, apart from my ritual of hitting the button on the cluster to select the voltage output and find myself permanently monitoring it while riding… anyone else do that??
On another note, regarding my earlier posts of 600’s etc keeping up, aren’t the 1125’s running against 600’s in the AMA Sportbike? Or are there different classes within the same race??
Lastly, a bit off topic but I emailed these guy’s http://www.buell-parts.com/uk/index.html last night to find out pricing structure for the Typhon kit, it will apparently come in three phases.. Not sure if any of you already have an idea of the cost? If you do please post it. |
Crackhead
| | Posted on Monday, May 09, 2011 - 04:45 pm: |
|
Don't relay on engine braking in the turns. It wears out your rear tire faster, don't set your bike up correctly for turn transitions, and it is not as controllable as using the brakes.
With that said, I use engine braking as times but never when I am pushing my speed. |
Echo15
| | Posted on Monday, May 09, 2011 - 11:11 pm: |
|
1+ as to the obsessive monitoring the voltage output... I even get sucked in by the instant mileage readout. I am so ashamed. |
Bosshound
| | Posted on Monday, May 09, 2011 - 11:27 pm: |
|
I was riding with a bunch of 1000cc bikes this weekend and never had a problem keeping up. It's all about the Rider |
Jules
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 10, 2011 - 11:09 am: |
|
1+ as to the obsessive monitoring the voltage output
Buy a tri-state LED monitor, it just sits there a lovely shade of green most of the time (occassionally changing to Amber) and you can just glance at it every so often..
The display on the IC is so slow to respond you're not seeing a true voltage anyway...plus it's hard to read... |
Jules
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 10, 2011 - 11:13 am: |
|
I was riding with a bunch of 1000cc bikes this weekend and never had a problem keeping up. It's all about the Rider
+1
I'm confident I can hang with anyone in my riding group...if they do something silly/dangerous just to be "faster" I know I'll make steady ground on them all the time so my safety margin is higher.. |
Mountainstorm
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 10, 2011 - 03:51 pm: |
|
Maybe why my rear tire is gone in 3000 miles is my tendency to use engine braking instead of brakes.
I have noticed the bike seems more responsive in a chicane at lower RPM. A Decade of riding an X-1 has me counting on torque to grunt through them. I rarely have the revs over 6K. |
|
