| Author | Message | ||
     Jornum1 |
I just bought a 200 x1 with 2900 miles on it. The original owner put the miles on it and then let it sit for many years. A kid bought it from him after doing some work in his house and seeing it sitting in his garage. He had it for 6 months. Bike is cherry besides a broken header stud(fixed), broken exhaust down tube(fixed). The main issue was it had no clutch. Like nothing was there at all. I took a chance and bought it on faith. For $2k it was worth the gamble. I was hoping it was just adjusted improperly or something easy. He was convinced the original owner was rather large, and burnt the clutch up. So I pulled the primary, pulled the plates ect. Everything looked good and up to spec. I had to use my 07 xb12 manual as a reference, I have the x1 manual on order. Put it back together and I have some clutch grab now. Enough to get going, but not enough to accelerate hard or get up a hill. I do have the clutch adjusted correctly, and the cable tightened. My buddy 01lightning(Tony) on the board suggested that the spring plate might be worn from sitting for so long. Has anyone heard of this? I am apt to just replace the whole kit and get rid of the grenade plate just for good measure. So has anyone else heard of a clutch spring getting worn from sitting for a long? time(approx 7 years). It just seems like the clutch is not getting compressed enough, so the spring makes sense. Thanks in advance! | ||
| Gmaan03 |
I restored a 1973 Honda CB750 some years ago. I rember the clutch slipped then after a couple hundred miles started to grab good. | ||
| Jornum1 |
Yeah this is pretty extreme, I cant even ride it. The more I think about it, the clutch spring seems to make more and more sense. | ||
| Natexlh1000 |
Perhaps the plates are binding in the basket? Are the right number of plates in there? One other thing to remember: Just because it has low miles, doesn't mean that a previous owner couldn't have gone in there and fungled it up is some bizarre-subtle way. Are the part numbers correct and original? | ||
| Jornum1 |
Nate, What do you mean by binding? If they were binding wouldnt the clutch engage? I believe there the correct amount of pates. I do no know about the part numbers, I do not have a parts manual yet(it is ordered, but has not arrived). I also believe the bike is pretty unmolested. Its bone stock, and does not seem to have been tampered with. But who knows! Risk of buying a use bike! Thanks for the input. | ||
| Littlebuggles |
There's a S1 service manual on PDF in the Knowledge Vault. Use that. It's far more accurate than the XB manual for this application. X1 has pretty much the same tranny as a sportster anyway, just like the rest of the tubers. Congrats on your new bike! | ||
| Jornum1 |
Thanks! | ||
| Someday |
Jay, Did some work on my tuber clutch this winter, removed the "spring plate". If you want a second set of eyes/hands PM me and I'll take a ride over give you my .02$. Regards, Don | ||
| Jim2 |
I can give you a good deal on the required one fiber two steel plates needed to replace the spring plate. Mine are just slightly used. Mine are from a 2000 M2, Nor sure if they are good for a 2007 X1 but we can figure that out. PM me if interested. I wouldn't expect anything if you can't use em, only if it helps you. Check to make sure existing plates are glazed (i.e. fried clutch). Take up Don on his generous offer if you need help. (Message edited by jim2 on May 07, 2011) | ||
| Malott442 |
The PO might have put an engine treatment in there. I've seen it more than once. What you would have to do is: 1. Get bike oil up to temp. 2. Drain 3. Let cool to touch (or more) 4. Pull clutch plates and individually spray em with brake cleaner and thoroughly clean. 5. Replace oil and filter..... 6. High fives all around | ||
| Jornum1 |
Thanks Don, I appreciate it. You should come down either way, it would be good to see you. Its been a while. Thank you Jim, but I went ahead and ordered a Energy set with the extra discs. Reviews on here seem positive, and I wanted to get rid of the spring plate anyway. For what I paid for the bike, I dont mind dropping $120 on a new clutch I wont have to worry about. Malott, I will check that out when I crack it open tomorrow again. I am going to pull the whole basket as well. From doing some more research on here, I am wondering if my sifter pawl, detent plate, or the C clip could have a issue as well? Better safe then sorry. I might as well check while I have it open again. Thanks guys for all the help. Any other suggestions would be great | ||
| Someday |
Jay, If you are into it that far and you don't mind spending some more $$ I'd recommend the Baker shift drum. It bolts the shift detent plate to the drum as opposed to the "C" clip and has a modified ramp to make it easier to find neutral. Also I replaced 2nd gears in mine for a more evenly spaced ratio from 1st to 2nd to 3rd. If you're interested I'll send the part #'s. Regards, DC | ||
| Jornum1 |
Yeah I have seen them? they make a big difference? Is it a easy install? I am not familiar with that. Shoot me a PM or give me a ring, I would definitely be interested while I have it open. | ||
| Someday |
PM sent. | ||
| Jornum1 |
Sorry I didnt get back to you today Don, was very busy at work. I wanted to see where I was at before I gave you a call so we could talk about it. I will give you a ring tomorrow morning to pick your brain about the drum. I ended up playing for a bit this afternoon for a few minutes. After pulling the primary, everything looks good on the shifter/transmission side. The pawl, detent and clip all look good.  I remeasured the friction plates and realized I had misread the manual. They should measure 0.662", mine measure 0.607". So I guess is is just the discs. I just couldnt believe that someone could wear out a clutch in under 3000 miles. Well shift drum and clutch were shipped today. I should have them by Wednesday or Thursday. Hope to be riding by the end of the week finally. Its killing me staring at this beautiful bike sitting on my lift! Luckily I still have this to play with.  | ||
| Natexlh1000 |
Wow! just baked the clutch before the second oil change??? Is that a record? Did the previous owner just leave it in 5th all the time? | ||
| Jornum1 |
Ha yeah I dont know damn! Like I said I didnt know the original owner. The kid I bought it from picked it up from the original owner the way it was last fall. He was going to fix it up, but decided he was in over his head. He did say the original owner was very "large" and thought he bought the x1 as his first bike. But still! Hopefully I dont find any more surprises once I get it rolling! Got my shipping confirmation, looks like my clutch and shift drum will be here Friday. | ||
| Hootowl |
What kind of pod covers/fairing is that? | ||
| Jornum1 |
Its the solobuell soc cup kit. Very high quality, great fit and finish. | ||
| Buellistic |
CLUTCH "INFO" Class 101 for anyone that wants it, just PM me ... | ||
| Hootowl |
Sure looks nice. Is it the same material that the stock pods are made of, or is it fiberglass? |
