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Mountainstorm
Posted on Friday, May 06, 2011 - 07:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I can see the cord under the rubber in the center of the rear. That's usually when I bite the bullet and stop riding until I can sling on a new skin.

How about you guys?
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Chessm
Posted on Friday, May 06, 2011 - 07:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i might let it get to chords if im jsut commuting but if its raining a lot, or i have along tour coming up, or a trackday. i dont let it get that far.


i have PR2s that still have good thread on it on my XB but they have over 10K miles on them now with probably more heat cycles than the tire was designed for. the tire is staring to slip here and there. also the profile is pretty squared off as it was mostly used for commuting and so its now adversely affecting handling.

the tires are getting changed next week.
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Chessm
Posted on Friday, May 06, 2011 - 08:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

oh just to add, i just installed PR2s on my CR as its taking over the commute duties and the XB is taking over the track/canyon duties
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Dannybuell
Posted on Friday, May 06, 2011 - 08:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mountainstorm - In decades of riding last week was the first or second time I got to the cords. Part of the problem was deciding on a replacement brand of tire so I too quit riding until I could decide. I chose the Michelin Pilot Power 2ct. I have about 200 miles on them and they are great. They are much pointier than the Pirellis, more like the Dunlops I have used for years!
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Froggy
Posted on Friday, May 06, 2011 - 08:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I ride to the cords, or to the point that I don't think I can finish whatever long weekend jaunt I have planned. As I rely on 2 wheel transportation for commuting duty I get as much as I can out of the rubber.
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Brumbear
Posted on Friday, May 06, 2011 - 08:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

cords on the rear steepled and or cupped on the fronts
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Duphuckincati
Posted on Friday, May 06, 2011 - 08:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Next time you "ride to the cords" guys have the old tire off, feel how little material you've been riding on. You're either much braver, stupider, or cheaper than I am.
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Friday, May 06, 2011 - 08:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Next time you "ride to the cords" guys have the old tire off, feel how little material you've been riding on. You're either much braver, stupider, or cheaper than I am.


And you think an extra 1/8 of rubber is going to protect you from what exactly? Most if not all of the strength of a tire is in the steel belts.
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Duphuckincati
Posted on Friday, May 06, 2011 - 08:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

A 1/8 inch stone or bit of metal. And I don't go to the last 1/8 inch. Check the wear bars.
We are riding expensive toys. Don't cheap out on getting another day or two out of a questionable tire. Flats are a pain in the ass at best, deadly at worst.
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Froggy
Posted on Friday, May 06, 2011 - 09:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You might like this tire then. It is so bald it can stand up on its own! : D



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Dannybuell
Posted on Friday, May 06, 2011 - 09:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Duphuckincati - you are absolutely right on all counts!!
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Duphuckincati
Posted on Friday, May 06, 2011 - 09:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks. My mother always told me I'm smarter than I look.
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Forerunner
Posted on Friday, May 06, 2011 - 09:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I wear them down to the cords. I also plug my tires when I get a nail.

Failure of the tire to hold air as a result of either of these actions very rarely results in a catastrophic blow-out. Most likely outcome is a leak to flat and an inconvenience.

I'm ok with those odds.

YMMV,
Nels
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Brumbear
Posted on Friday, May 06, 2011 - 10:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

First off rightous ones I have never started a ride on the cords or the wear bars. They just ended up that way when I got home or at some point during the ride. The roads hear are mostly rougher asphalt and can really eat a tire on a summer afternoon, Here is a pic of a corsa III I had less than 1000 miles on and halo'd it in one afternoon of hard riding.

. I guess you have enough moneyto buy tires at a whim I sometimes have other obligations. You never looked at a tire and said yeah I can get another day outa it it aint on the bars yet? If you answer with anything other than yes I have done that your flat out full of shyt.
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Drawkward
Posted on Friday, May 06, 2011 - 11:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What are you insinuating about the bluing of your tire?
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Duphuckincati
Posted on Friday, May 06, 2011 - 11:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey Brum, I know you guys back in Jersey had a hard winter, but it's spring now so you can relax some. I remember what it's like back there. No need to get all pissy here, we're all buddys.

Looks like Sunday's going to be nice there. Have a good ride and some pizza.
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Skntpig
Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2011 - 12:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Too high pressure will create the blue.
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Sprintst
Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2011 - 01:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yeah, down to the cords on the rear. Didn't plan on getting quite that low.....
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Fast1075
Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2011 - 01:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My old ass is worth more to me than a $150.00 tire...I use my tires up...that means at the first tiny blister, they come off...they usually have lost their quality bite by then anyway.

How about if you had a bike that would use up 2 rear tires in less than 10 miles?? It would also use up nearly $130.00 in fuel and "oxidizer"...just sayin'.
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Pizzaboy
Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2011 - 03:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

my tires start life on the track, until i wear out the sides, then i finish burning them off on the street until the cords touch ground. theres about 250 miles in between when the cords show, until when they touch the ground. the moment one breaks, it gets replaced.

it helps to have two sets of rims :P
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Echo15
Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2011 - 08:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Those two small contact points are your only connection to the road; I don't scrimp to get a few more miles on them.
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Usanigel
Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2011 - 08:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

1mm tread and they get changed. showing cords, no way!
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Mountainstorm
Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2011 - 02:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If I have the money for it I like to keep fresh tires on the beast. With the rear I can feel the difference between almost cords and some rubber by the way the bike twitches around when I am in a long sweeper with the throttle open. It's not a confidence inspiring feeling.

My riding style counts on the front tire staying hooked up...I am used the rear moving around. So as long as I have some tread up front I will ride it until I see cords under rubber on the center of the rear. I have never ridden after that until cords actually show. I have a long gravel drive to go up and no desire to walk after the tire lets loose.
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Hybridmomentspass
Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2011 - 02:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've went to the cords before, but didnt mean too, didnt realize they were that worn, dont like wearing them that much

I just use my judgment, when I look at them and see there is no tread left in the center then its time to replace the rear.
For the front - when it starts cupping.

I will, also, plug a rear if its still got a lot of life in it
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Fullthrottle2008
Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2011 - 04:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Does anyone know what legal position it leaves you in if you have an accident when your tyres are worn down to the belt? (we have a legal minimum here in the uk)
BTW I have ridden down to the cords before..!
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Bueller4ever
Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2011 - 06:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Once the tire starts showing a significant flat spot, I start looking for a new one. I like new tires. I've never ridden down to the cords.
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Pmjolly
Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2011 - 10:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

+1 Buell4ever
The neighborhood kids put my old tires on their Jap bikes. My rejects are much better than some of their current in use tires.
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Rob_l
Posted on Sunday, May 08, 2011 - 12:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

All you that ride um to and past the cord are my hero's. I can't do it. New tires when they get to the side wear bars, no question about it.
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Jules
Posted on Sunday, May 08, 2011 - 02:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

All you that ride um to and past the cord are my hero's.

Can't tell if that's sarcastic or not but you're definately not my heros..

I'm all for personal choice so feel free ride to the chords, it's your choice how you risk your lives after all.

In the UK you'd get a fine, and 3 points per defect (so hiked insurance costs etc) and if deemed "unroadworthy" they'd stop your fun right there.

My tyres are currently about as low as I ever let them get, they're beyond the wear indicators but still have visible tread all over, when the first bit of tread goes, so will the tyre.
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Dannybuell
Posted on Sunday, May 08, 2011 - 02:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Jules & Fullthrottle2008 - We have similar rules in the US its just that the LEO's are too busy for that type of thing. If there were an accident it would most likely be the time a complaint/citation would be filed.
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