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Curve_carver
| Posted on Tuesday, May 03, 2011 - 09:19 am: |
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Well bought a 2006 gsxr 750 with an original 6200 miles on it for 5k. Hes a friend of mine so I know the odo hasnt been tampered and he just changed the tires. Its very clean!! I rode it quite a bit lately a have found myself in love with the power, handling and the flickablility. I was encountered by a person at bike night to sell my buell last week and I find myself actually thinking about dumping it. I feel like the 750 has handling like a 600 and power of a 1000. Its only 5lbs heavier than a 600. They are both good bikes but the gsxr is more powerful and imho handles better. They both have new tires( same brand). The recovery in turns are way faster on the gsxr and the shifting is ultra smooth. I don't care for the gsxr tail section for the wifey but this decision comes down to riding and performaNot looks or how cool the bike is or its american. I bought alot of stuff that's american and I can say it was junk I've bought japenese stuff and said the same. The wifey is pushing ne to only have one bike. Im gonna have to think hard and evaluate which one must go. |
Georgehitch17
| Posted on Tuesday, May 03, 2011 - 09:41 am: |
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Im heavily doubting the more power comment your making Those bikes are putting down about 120 hp at the wheel where a 1125 is more like 130 hp. On top of that our torque curve is much flatter and stronger. But its your bike it sounds like you really like the 750. But it also sounds like your 1125 had a bad suspension set up and power issues. I will add a 750 to my stable one of these days but it wont be replacing my torque monster. |
Froggy
| Posted on Tuesday, May 03, 2011 - 09:42 am: |
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Do what your heart tells you do to. If you will be happier on the zuki, then sell the Buell. Likewise sell the zuki if the Buell calls you more. Every bike is different and each one has their pros and cons, so be sure to think it over before making the (tough) decision. |
99buellx1
| Posted on Tuesday, May 03, 2011 - 09:44 am: |
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Some of the classes I race in the 750 is the main competition in the I-4 bikes. They are quite evenly matched to the Buell, IMO. |
1_mike
| Posted on Tuesday, May 03, 2011 - 09:51 am: |
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MUCH of what Curve is saying depends on the tune up on both engines..! We all know the difficulty of getting a buell to run "correctly", not just ok... We see all the time here and other boards that who's ever tuneup a person is running, it still does this, or still does that. Maybe the Suzuki is just a bit better tuned thAn the Buell. That's my bet. Mike |
Tbowdre
| Posted on Tuesday, May 03, 2011 - 10:08 am: |
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I upgraded from a 2003 GSX-R750 to the 1125R. Man that was a great bike. But it was so flat down low until like 6000rpm and seriously had no character there is just something "alive" with a twin I really dont miss the gixxer one bit |
Sprintst
| Posted on Tuesday, May 03, 2011 - 10:13 am: |
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"dumping it" Sounds like your mind is made up. |
Craigg
| Posted on Tuesday, May 03, 2011 - 11:03 am: |
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I went from a 2005 GSXR 600 to my Buell and wouldn't go back. To me the Buell handles better. There are only a few bikes that I would consider getting rid of the buell for. Aprilia RSV4, BMW S100RR, maybe the MV Agusta ( my friend has one and I'm still not sure if I like it yet or not, riding wise seems ) Like everyone says do what feels right. Every bike feels different to everyone. |
Xodot
| Posted on Tuesday, May 03, 2011 - 11:15 am: |
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... JUST KEEP THE WIFE.... any other decisions can be fixed if you are wrong so relax and enjoy both for as long as you can get away with it. |
Rogue_biker
| Posted on Tuesday, May 03, 2011 - 11:28 am: |
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The 2012 GSXR 750 puts out 125-130 rwhp. So your 2006 is probably around 115-120 rwhp? It's also in the 50 ft. lbs. range in terms of torque. Not sure but it should be around there. The 1125R should be around 120-130 rwhp but with at least 80 ft. lbs. of torque. The GSXR 750 weighs around 450 lbs. wet in '06. The 1125R weighs around 450 lbs. wet. I'm not going to put down the GSXR's because these are kick-azz bikes. Is it better than the 1125R? I believe the newer ones are. But an '06? I don't think so! Not sure what kind of 1125R you have but I'm sure it's at least an '08! So your '06 GSXR750 is actually an "outdated" sportbike compared to the Buell. Also, you are comparing an inline 4 displacing 750cc's to a V-twin displacing over 1,000 cc's! Not fair! The inline 4 is all top end. The Helicon V-twin is all flat torque curve AND good top end. Look at the performance figures and I'm sure the 1125R beats' an '06 GSXR 750. To me, it's no contest. The GSXR 750 may feels good to you right now because it's different. I don't know what condition your 1125R is. If it's in the same condition as the GSXR 750, which I will assume is very good condition, then the 1125R should stomp all over that Gixxer--more power, more torque, more comfortable, way better wind protection, better handling, etc. 1125R is on par performance wise to the 1098 Ducati and beats the old Aprilia RSV1000. Ultimately, it's up to you. Your wife is right--the practical thing is to sell one bike. If your heart is telling you to keep the GSXR because it feels better to you, then do that and move on. Personally for me, I wouldn't make that trade. I would trade my '08 1125R for an '09-'11 R1, or an RSV4 or Ducati 848/1198, but I would NOT trade it in for an older bike of whatever make or model. I certainly would not trade it in for an older, lesser performing bike. Having said that, if you got a screaming deal on your GSXR 750 and you are not happy with your 1125R's reliability or whatever, then you should be good to go and be happy to sell the 1125R. |
Georgehitch17
| Posted on Tuesday, May 03, 2011 - 12:09 pm: |
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^^^^^AGREED |
Curve_carver
| Posted on Tuesday, May 03, 2011 - 12:18 pm: |
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My buddy has one and it ran 10.35 stock. He ran my buell and it ran 10.70s . It is a little faster |
Rogue_biker
| Posted on Tuesday, May 03, 2011 - 12:33 pm: |
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C'mon Curve....just because your buddy ran a 10.35 on a 750 and you ran a 10.70 on your 1125R don't mean jack. All it means is your friend is a better rider than you in the 1/4 mile. I could be wrong. Can someone do some research and find out what the performance specs of the 2006 GSXR 750 is vs an '08 1125R ridden by professional riders? I think that is a wiser comparison than you vs your buddy. |
Fresnobuell
| Posted on Tuesday, May 03, 2011 - 12:37 pm: |
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It is a little faster Even if the 750 is .35 faster in the quarter mile, it means little to anything other than your ego. |
Rogue_biker
| Posted on Tuesday, May 03, 2011 - 12:43 pm: |
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On another note is the 1125R is a better street bike. It's nice to have 85 ft. lbs. of torque vs 50 ft. lbs. It's nice to have that huge fairing and more comfortable riding position. It's nice to have those quad headlights and maintenance free belt drive. OTOH, the GSXR is more reliable and has tons of aftermarket support. It looks sleeker. Easier to maintain (no engine rotation). More popular and has more street credibility. It's your choice. Just don't say it's faster because it isn't! |
Curve_carver
| Posted on Tuesday, May 03, 2011 - 01:23 pm: |
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He rode both of them in a quarter mile. Its not an ego thing either. I also look at gas milage and the 750 seems to get farther on less gas. Idk I just have to think about it. I don't drink buellaid like some folks but I don't drink zukiaid either. I just have to make a smart economical choice . Bikes are investments and the value the bike retains also means alot to.me. |
Curve_carver
| Posted on Tuesday, May 03, 2011 - 01:26 pm: |
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Idk my fiend and I ran em and he really blows my doors off at 100mph. So ya the 750 is faster. But that's not what ill be looking at the most. Handling and reliability is big to.me. can anyone did up some dirt or recalls on the 2006 gsxr 750. |
99buellx1
| Posted on Tuesday, May 03, 2011 - 01:30 pm: |
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quote:Also, you are comparing an inline 4 displacing 750cc's to a V-twin displacing over 1,000 cc's! Not fair!
What would be a fair I4 comparison then? Rogue, you keep talking like the 750 is a slouch, and I can guarantee you it is not. As I posted before, they are in the same race class as my 1125, and it's that way for a reason. These two bike are very close. |
Fresnobuell
| Posted on Tuesday, May 03, 2011 - 01:31 pm: |
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I just have to make a smart economical choice The economical choice would have been to NOT buy a second bike. HOwever, since you have already done that, the economical thing to do now is sell the Buell as it's obvious from your orginal post you prefer the Gixxer. Not sure why you would have created this thread other than to imply your 750 is a better bike than the 1125R--unless you haven't actually bought the Gixxer quite yet. |
Sprintst
| Posted on Tuesday, May 03, 2011 - 02:48 pm: |
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Sell the Buell. Let someone else enjoy it, you like the zuki, it's all good |
Smit3833
| Posted on Tuesday, May 03, 2011 - 03:27 pm: |
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I bought the buell 1125R and came from a 2002 gsxr 750 dyno'd to 122rwhp. The gsxr was easier to ride by far. Softer suspension and it seemed like more travel. The Buell is way more fun to ride around town though. I don't need to fish through gears and rev up to 8k rpm to get the go fast feeling. Just twist the throttle. The Buell with a pipe and ecm is as fast as I will ever need. I've been doing some 1/8th mile drag racing recently and it may not pull the fastest 0-60ft times (can get traction safely) but my trap speed is about 3-4mph faster than gsxr 1000s. |
Rogue_biker
| Posted on Tuesday, May 03, 2011 - 04:32 pm: |
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99BuellX1, I know very well the performance of the GSXR750. At the top end it approaches the GSXR1000--basically it slots right in between the 600 and 1000. Yes, I also understand the specs on these bikes are very close and I stated that in my original post. What I meant about the comparison not being fair was actually in the engine department and not the overall bike, which I mentioned in my original post as well. In fact, I feel the GSXR750 has a big disadvantage in torque, which makes it more demanding to ride fast. It's basically a 600 with 10 more ft. lbs. of torque, while the Helicon has 30 more!! A fair comparison would be against the 1098/1198 and RSV1000. In fact road tests of the 1125R had it pitted against those bikes and not the GSXR 750. Whatever the case I NEVER said the GSXR 750 is a slouch, although I think that's all you "heard" in my post. |
Rogue_biker
| Posted on Tuesday, May 03, 2011 - 04:36 pm: |
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The economical choice would have been to NOT buy a second bike. HOwever, since you have already done that, the economical thing to do now is sell the Buell as it's obvious from your orginal post you prefer the Gixxer. Not sure why you would have created this thread other than to imply your 750 is a better bike than the 1125R--unless you haven't actually bought the Gixxer quite yet. That was exactly my impression of the post as soon as I read it. I think Curve has already made up his mind and that's why he bought the GSXR 750. Congrats anyway. The GSXR seems to fit your wants and needs better and will probably hold on to some more resale value. |
Albert666
| Posted on Tuesday, May 03, 2011 - 04:40 pm: |
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i borrowed a cousins gsxr 1000 k3 today to take to a dyno to get the pc set up, yeah it'll do 100 in first, has plenty of top end grunt, but it does absolutely nothing for me, i actually took the wifes xb12 out afterwards and much preferred that so next time i jump on my 1125r i'll like it even more, it just suits the way i want to ride |
Rogue_biker
| Posted on Tuesday, May 03, 2011 - 04:43 pm: |
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Bikes are investments and the value the bike retains also means alot to.me. Not picking on you Curve. Just saying--bikes are a poor investment. In fact, it's never an investment unless you are buying a Confederate Wraith or a Motus or an Erik Buell Racing 1190RS Full Carbon and keeping it in a garage and not riding it. Most any vehicle in the USA is a poor investment. Only Real Estate Property, improvements to your home, your 401k, and any type of Cash type commodity is an investment in this country. In other countries bikes and cars can be investments because the price of new bikes and cars are incredibly expensive, so used ones hold their value. But here in N.A. they depreciate fast! |
Ljm
| Posted on Tuesday, May 03, 2011 - 04:55 pm: |
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Ride what makes you happy. Life is too short to wish you had. LJM |
Crabby
| Posted on Tuesday, May 03, 2011 - 08:34 pm: |
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Ride what you want to ride. I personally like the Buell.. never gonna give her up. |
Kinder
| Posted on Tuesday, May 03, 2011 - 08:57 pm: |
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http://www.sportrider.com/news/146_motorcycle_perf ormance_numbers/ You can click different manufacturers and see performance numbers sport rider has recorded over the years. One can easily argue that 'maybe it was a bad day/rider/tune/tack/tire etc for the Buell but the same can be said with all the stats. FWIW the diff in the 1/4 between an '06 GSXR750 and an '08 Buell 1125R is within .02 RPM acceleration can and does make a difference. (Message edited by kinder on May 03, 2011) |
Dirty_john
| Posted on Wednesday, May 04, 2011 - 02:10 am: |
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GSXR 750 v Buell 1125R? - each to his own with personal values and riding styles meaning you have to make your own mind up regardless of the views of others. Each bike has its plus and minus points, I wish I could fit the Brembo brakes from my Suzuki track bike onto my 1125R road bike but that is not immediately a viable prospect. Personally I would never have any other engine in a street bike other than a vee twin but good luck with your decision, Why did you buy the Suzuki before selling the Buell I might ask? |
Not_purple_s2
| Posted on Wednesday, May 04, 2011 - 08:53 am: |
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This would be tougher if you had the 750 and were thinking of getting a 1125 or if you had the 1125 and were thinking of getting a 750. But since you have both bikes it shouldn't be too hard. Which one is getting the most seat time? Does one of them do something for you that the other can't? Do you really need both? It sounds like you like the 750 more and that it's the best bike for you. It sounds like you and that bike fit. They're really similar bikes in theory, kinda between the 600 and 1000 classes. So there's not really a point to having both. |