| Author | Message | ||
     Cscutt |
Need some advice from all you bueller's in OH. I just relocated to SW Ohio, decided to go move my two 1125's and my driver license over. Go to the local BMV, I am told several things that don't seem right, and I can't find any information on there site: 1) OH will not honor my "M" class from VA 2) OH will not honor my MSF class taken in VA 3) I will be required to take an OH sponsored Motor cycle class ( 6 moth waiting period) 4) I can not take the above mentioned class without a valid OH drivers license. 4a) OH will not honor my VA drivers license, and requires both a written and driving test 4b) I can't take this test in/on a VA registered vehicle. 5) Once I take the motorcycle class I will have to hold a motor cycle temp permit for 6 months before I am eligible for "M" class 6) I will have to take both a written and skills test to obtain my "M" class. 7) The motorcycles have to be inspected, before they will title them at cost of $220 ea. 7a) There is no requirement on record for this area of the state for vehicle inspection Each one of the items above have $$ associated with them, big ones, with everything that is list for 4 vehicles it is going to cost close to $1000.00 just to register here, and that seem completely out of line. Virgina is not cheap, but this makes VA look like a penny caddy store. I have lived in 6 different States, my wife in 4, neither of us have ever experienced anything like this when entering a DMV with a valid US license. I will admit that I have not tried calling another BMV to see this person was just off their rocker, and will try another one. If anyone could shed some light on this crazy train it would be helpful. | ||
| Boogiman1981 |
not much better if you're coming into floriduh... | ||
| Cscutt |
Hey Boogiman, I can believe States would do things like this, seems so counter productive. If I decide to stay ( if I get the same answer tomorrow from another BMV, I am Oscar Mike) the State would get my tax revenue, so why would they make it so impossible to do simple things like register your vehicle if your moving to their State. It just seems crazy that I will have to rent a car just to take a driving test, so I can get a OH license, so I can then sign up for the $125 motor cycle class, so I can get a temp permit, just to get back an "M" endorsement that I have had for many years. It kinda makes me sick that I vowed to give my life to protect this kinda stupid bureaucratic tomfoolery. I looked up TN and KY, both of them are as I am used to, walk in to the DMV with proof of who you are, a valid US license, one picture, hot lam , and $20 later your out the door with different logo on your drivers license. One of these States will get my tax revenue if OH doesn't give me some realistic answers; and thanks for the gouge on FL, off the list now. | ||
| Xtreme6669 |
I moved to Fort Lauderdale Florida in 2001 from AZ for a couple years... They accepted my AZ license and motorcycle endorsement no questions asked and printed me out a new license on the spot.... | ||
| Boogiman1981 |
the rules in fl changed a year or two ago. i think they still accept the DL but the registration fees are completely insane | ||
| Fresnobuell |
Its all about self-preservation...self-preservation of state employees jobs. I am SURE California would bend you over even more IF you could even bring your vehicles into the Cali in the first place. | ||
| Freight_dog |
I got my motorcycle endorsement in FL a few years ago before moving back to Ohio. When I changed to an Ohio DL, I just had to take a written test and they kept all my endorsements. Either things have changed or I would check with another BMV office. According to the BMV website, there is a registration fee, license plate fee and a $3.50 inspection fee on out of state vehicles. I also licensed an out of state car (94 Mustang) just last year. Because I live in an E-check county, I had to have that done...free of charge because it was the first one and not in the due year and have the title changed into my name. I don't recall the price but it certainly wasn't that much. The license plates were the most expensive part but all told I might have spent a bit over $100 between title and plates. Fresno, in Ohio the local BMV offices are privately owned and contracted by the state, so it certainly could be some privatized profiteering going on. | ||
| Cataract2 |
Boogie, any info on what if any states DL that FL will honor? My wife is a CO resident and I'm a FL one. (Military, I can keep mine as she can hers.) Yet we plan to have her get FL residency, is there any info on what DL will be honored in FL to change over? | ||
| Reepicheep |
let me see where I can help... it's not that bad. I may be wrong now, but at one point everything I say below was right. 1) OH will not honor my "M" class from VA I don't know. Seems odd to me. 2) OH will not honor my MSF class taken in VA I think the DMV has confused two things here... Last I checked, Ohio had two paths to get a motorcycle endorsement. The first is take the written test, get your permit (can ride M without passenger and have to wear a helmet). Thats good for 6 mo to a year and can be renewed. Then take the on bike examination (more later on your questions relating to that) at a DMV station (by appointment with a waiting list but generally weeks not months, especially if you are willing to travel to other testing stations). If you pass that, you get the full M. The other way they now let you do it is to take the MSF course. If you pass the class at the end, they substitute that for your DMV site on bike test. So what they are probably saying is that you cant use your out of state MSF class to bypass the DMV site on bike riding test. You still need to either take that test at the DMV, or take the class at the MSF. (If the endorsement really doesn't transfer over, which would surprise me). 3) I will be required to take an OH sponsored Motor cycle class ( 6 moth waiting period) I think that is just one of two paths... If you want to go the MSF class route, there is a waiting list. But at least when I took it, you could show up as a provisional walk in (first come first served), and if by half way through the first class the appointee didn't show, you got their slot. So get the class times, and hope for a cold rainy day when the first one starts.  4) I can not take the above mentioned class without a valid OH drivers license. That would be new also. Its a closed course excercise on MSF provided bikes. I think people with no valid drivers license at all could take it. And again, I don't think you have to take it. 4a) OH will not honor my VA drivers license, and requires both a written and driving test Suprising to me. 4b) I can't take this test in/on a VA registered vehicle. Again, seems odd. If so, and you are near Lebanon OH (Cincinnati / Dayton area), come get my Saab and take the test here. 5) Once I take the motorcycle class I will have to hold a motor cycle temp permit for 6 months before I am eligible for "M" class I think they were confused. After the written test, you may have to keep the M temp permit for 6 months before the on bike test... but I didn't think that was true either. I think you can get the temp M permit, and walk right over to the on bike test to get the full M endorsement. 6) I will have to take both a written and skills test to obtain my "M" class. True, *if* you don't go the MSF class route. This is "option B". 7) The motorcycles have to be inspected, before they will title them at cost of $220 ea. Again, sounds wrong. When I bought my Uly from SC, I rode it back, brought it over, and paid like $7 at the DMV for them to walk outside, look at the vin, and sign some paperwork certifying that that VIN was that VIN. This paper then goes over to the title office to transfer the title to your name (provided you have the out of state title also). At that point, I had to pay tax on the purchase price. Not sure if you would need to do that, as the bike was already in your name, and not an out of state purchase. 7a) There is no requirement on record for this area of the state for vehicle inspection No ongoing vehicle inspections. We had E-Check for a while for cars, but they shut that down (thankfully). And it never applied to bikes. They *will* do a quick inspection of the bike you bring for the riding skills test at the DMV. Some testers are relaxed, some are jerks. One actually dinged me because my 1986 Yamaha Radian horn wasn't loud enough. Not that it didn't work, but that it wasn't loud enough. I looked up the law later (I got through the test by running down the street to a bike parts seller and slapping in a new horn) and it just says has to be audible at 100 feet. I should have just yelled "HONK" really loud when I pushed the button. Hope that helps, feel free to ask any followup questions or for any clarifications, and I'll answer if I can. Where are you at in Ohio? Welcome to the state! | ||
| Cscutt |
Thanks all, I did not know they were "privatized", makes sense now why when we produced our voter registration cards, we were told that was not a valid for proof of residency, then she presented a list, #4 on the list was "Ohio Voter Registration"; I pointed to it and pushed the documents her way and she said she would not accept them, and that we needed to produce a mortgage; explaining that we were currently renting here and that we were waiting for our property in VA to sell, I was greeted with an "open mouth" stair as she pushed my Voter Registrations cards back toward me. That was the point that I grabbed all my paper work and walked out. Reepinceepin, I am in Amelia OH right now, I went to the Batavia BMV, I know where you are, not to far, if I can ever get this thing sorted, we will have to ride sometime. | ||
| Usanigel |
From the BMV web site. All you need to do is the written part of the test and pass the eye test. I copied this: "Once you are an Ohio resident, you need to become an official Ohio driver as soon as possible. You are considered an Ohio resident once you: take a job, sign a lease, buy a home, register to vote, or enroll children in school. ¡Obtain a copy of the Digest of Ohio Motor Vehicle Laws. This booklet is available for download or ordering, click here. You can also get the Digest at your local license agency. Look in the Yellow Pages under "License Services" for the license agency nearest you. All of the information you need to study for an Ohio driver license test is in this booklet. ¡After you've studied the Digest, go to the nearest State Highway Patrol Examination Station for a written test and vision screening. No appointment is necessary, but be sure to check which days and hours the nearest station is open. ¡The driving test is usually waived for new residents who have a valid out-of-state license. The examiner may require one for someone who may need a license restriction. ¡Additionally, you will be required to show proof of full legal name, date of birth, Social Security number, proof of legal presence (U.S. Birth Certificate, valid U.S. Passport/Passport Card, Naturalization Papers, USCIS documents), and proof of residency. Please refer to the acceptable identification document list." When I moved to NJ from PA did the same thing, read the handbook, sit at the computer and do the multi choice thing. This is the link http://bmv.ohio.gov/new_resident_info.stm read the right side for title transfer to ohio. (Message edited by usanigel on April 22, 2011) |
