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Fresnobuell
| Posted on Friday, April 08, 2011 - 04:20 pm: |
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It doesn't get any more real than that. 9.28 is very fast and Joe is kicking some ass. I have already stated I think Twin Motorcycles is dong good work, but I don't agree with the HP proclamations without baseline figures--just as I have stated in previous posts. To state the stock dyno numbers of a new 1125r which hasn't even been broken in is a bit insulting. That dyno run was probably done close to a couple years ago. Has the over 1,200 and counting dyno runs affected the calibration of said dyno? It's interesting to me it wasn't mentioned at all in the OP's opening thread, the fact this 152HP dyno run was done on an Erik Buell Racing headers/pipe, not the Torque Hammer. It would lead one to believe (if Michael hadn't interjected) that the 152HP was attainable with TM's stacks, tune and Torque Hammer. In reality, the 152HP was done with the TM intake stacks, Erik Buell Racing headers, Erik Buell Racing Sidewinder & the TM tune. Is this not false advertising? |
Puzzled
| Posted on Friday, April 08, 2011 - 04:21 pm: |
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Thanks Joe. 7hp is a nice find with the addition of a race pipe and matching tune. |
Littlebutquick
| Posted on Friday, April 08, 2011 - 05:04 pm: |
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the Erik Buell Racing side winder was not mentioned as i was not aloud to disclose any pics or information on it as it was a prototype .mike 1125r and micheal from Erik Buell Racing had alot of input into the design i just got to test it which i was more than happy to do i went to Dris as i wanted a good fuel map for the stacks and pipe and withe a 7 hp gain worth the 3 days off work and 26hrs traveling |
Ridenusa4l
| Posted on Friday, April 08, 2011 - 05:11 pm: |
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as was previously stated, Dris was told to stay hush hush on the whole thing, re-read the whole thing a little more closely...this is why i dont check in as much as i used to.. Jake |
Avalaugh
| Posted on Friday, April 08, 2011 - 05:28 pm: |
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As you say fresnobuell, dyno figures are only a guide as there are so many factors, but the fact is this, LBQ has the record for a 1125, using TM tune etc, now he has more power, 7bhp and 12 NM shown on TM dyno. Think that's proof enough, E.B.R and TM are doing good things for us all, and the efforts of LBQ and mike1125r are pioneering the way forward with said companies. Keep up the good work gents |
Dannybuell
| Posted on Friday, April 08, 2011 - 05:54 pm: |
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I have no doubt that Dris is one of the great Buell tuners. Fresnobuell is correct there was an error of omission from Dris. I suspect Dris does his marketing work after hours when he is more relaxed, less analytical... Things started going backwards when he compared a bone stock run to a drag bike with way too many variables introduced besides the stacks and tune. Dris is not a great marketer, a more meaningful comparison would have been the drag bike B4 the stacks-tune a baseline so to speak, then the stacks tune. |
Fresnobuell
| Posted on Friday, April 08, 2011 - 06:37 pm: |
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re-read the whole thing a little more closely I have read it several times. Even if the specific pipe was hush-hush there should have been a mention that it WASN'T the Torque Hammer in the 152HP run, but another "I can't name it right now" pipe with non-stock headers. That's pretty obvious unless you think it really was an honest omission. using TM tune etc, now he has more power, 7bhp and 12 NM shown on TM dyno. ...also don't forget the new Erik Buell Racing headers and pipe along with that tune. |
Ridenusa4l
| Posted on Friday, April 08, 2011 - 06:54 pm: |
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fair enough fresno, i agree with that as i thought initially it was the new revised torquehammer....twas a little misleading but i digress. Jake |
D_adams
| Posted on Saturday, April 09, 2011 - 12:18 am: |
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. (Message edited by d_adams on April 09, 2011) |
Avalaugh
| Posted on Saturday, April 09, 2011 - 12:50 am: |
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I would think this is the reason ebr shy away from posting dyno results for there products, just to many variables for the public to argue about. I look at peoples numbers and make my own opinion, but they are only ever a guide. I did not know chain drive would affect it, or sprocket sizes ? Thought that would just change the position of the torque/bhp figures on the chart, ie power comes on sooner ? |
Easyrider
| Posted on Saturday, April 09, 2011 - 10:21 am: |
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Joe is testing today, he just past the finish line with 146 miles an hour (-: gogogogogogogogogo |
Mrrickbo
| Posted on Saturday, April 09, 2011 - 11:44 am: |
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So I am not to familiar with NM rating. So, I do an unit conversation. I was surprised to see that 120 NM's is 88-89 foot pounds of torque! That is awesome! I wonder what the stacks would work like with the HPE race pipe. |
Jdugger
| Posted on Saturday, April 09, 2011 - 02:45 pm: |
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Fres, Don't go posting anything skeptical or involving common sense on this board. It's not tolerated. |
Littlebutquick
| Posted on Saturday, April 09, 2011 - 04:14 pm: |
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just got back from testing ran a 9.26@ 146mph and backed up the mph with another 146 mph but as it was just a run what you brung day non prepped track and with all the extra beans put in the bike spinning the rear so my 60ft was down by 6 hundreds so on a good track or trying different launch techniques there a 9.1 in that bike for sure this bike now with the right map from Dris in it for the twinmotorcycles stacks and Erik Buell Racing pipe pulls harder than a school boy with a playboy mag .i have the run on vid post it soon |
Mike1125r
| Posted on Saturday, April 09, 2011 - 05:03 pm: |
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Congrats Joe!!! Looks like we have some good competition this year. Hope to give you some faster numbers soon lol great job!!! |
Littlebutquick
| Posted on Saturday, April 09, 2011 - 05:48 pm: |
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http://youtu.be/WhzshRBbosI here is the run |
Dannybuell
| Posted on Saturday, April 09, 2011 - 06:05 pm: |
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Wow! |
Littlebutquick
| Posted on Saturday, April 09, 2011 - 06:33 pm: |
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me with my helmet off
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Dannybuell
| Posted on Saturday, April 09, 2011 - 06:48 pm: |
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that fatherly support with dad hiding... LOL! |
Avalaugh
| Posted on Sunday, April 10, 2011 - 03:32 am: |
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Priceless picture |
Blake
| Posted on Tuesday, April 12, 2011 - 12:03 am: |
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Tinybutquick? |
Easyrider
| Posted on Sunday, April 24, 2011 - 07:37 am: |
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and a new PB for Joe 9,24 on the 1/4 mile and a new pb on the 1/8 with 5.96 earlier this morning still a lot of potention left all progress here: http://www.twinmotorcycles.nl/artikelen.asp?cid=6& aid=74 (Message edited by easyrider on April 24, 2011) |
Mike1125r
| Posted on Sunday, April 24, 2011 - 09:44 am: |
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Great job Joe!!! Hope you find some more time in her. Hopefully I will be testing next weekend. Good luck be safe!!! |
Kinder
| Posted on Sunday, April 24, 2011 - 10:32 am: |
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Excellent run! Congrats! That's S1000RR and 'Busa territory! |
Easyrider
| Posted on Monday, April 25, 2011 - 12:04 pm: |
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And again à new record 9.22 i post timeslip tomorrow |
Littlebutquick
| Posted on Monday, April 25, 2011 - 03:45 pm: |
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just got back from racing 9.5 bike found it hard to run a 9.5 et i was shutting off at the 1000ft and still running a 9.4 et at 120mph most of the field the 4 pots were struggling to run the number on a full pass but i managed to run a 9,549 which was a number 2 qualifier but ended up as number 6 after 3 days qualifying but i was busy trying for a pb and running full passes i was pleased with a 9.24 @147 mph all these passes were made on the hottest weekend ever recorded for time of year with no air quality .i was looking forward to a night pass with good air and a good track but as we were just about to run and a comp bike rodded his motor and the track was closed who knows what that pass would of been .to day was eliminations i got through the 1st round but pulled a red in the 2nd but saw it and went balls out and ran a 9.22 et many thanks to Dris and twinmotorcycles for this fuel map and stacks Erik Buell Racing for the side winder pipe and mike1125r for all his input and help
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Easyrider
| Posted on Tuesday, April 26, 2011 - 01:56 am: |
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nice very nice... |
Easyrider
| Posted on Sunday, May 01, 2011 - 04:54 am: |
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Joe Just run a new record with the Buell 1125R, 9.18 at 146 miles an hour 60ft was 1.54. No wheelybar (-: way the go Joe (Message edited by easyrider on May 01, 2011) (Message edited by easyrider on May 01, 2011) |
Blake
| Posted on Sunday, May 01, 2011 - 05:10 am: |
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Wow! He must be approaching the limits of the laws of physics. |
Easyrider
| Posted on Sunday, May 01, 2011 - 06:25 am: |
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And again a new record... We are goining to enter the 8 seconds. He just run a 9.10 with a 1.52 60ft hiiihaaaa Would this be the first stock Buell 1125R entering the 8 seconds.. (Message edited by easyrider on May 01, 2011) |