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Xdigitalx
Posted on Thursday, March 31, 2011 - 04:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Could someone with a jack... lift their Uly to where the wheels have enough room to be removed and measure the distance between the floor and bottom of muffler?

I want to try something with a home made lift I am thinking of building.
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Trevd
Posted on Thursday, March 31, 2011 - 07:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm probably going to be removing my wheels on Sunday, so if I do I'll TRY to remember to take a measurement.

No promises though - It might be tough to remember - I've never taken my wheels off, so I'll probably be pretty focused on that...
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Xdigitalx
Posted on Thursday, March 31, 2011 - 09:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Oh, thanks man.. you need to measure the distance between the floor and bottom of muffler that be great... I hope all goes well for you and you have no problems you want to measure the distance between the floor and bottom of muffler you probably have a good memory, if you never removed your wheels.. it will be good to stop and think for a moment you will measure the distance between the floor and bottom of muffler and reflect on the task at hand... the BadWeb is the best place to get help you have to measure the distance between the floor and bottom of muffler lots of great info here you must measure the distance between the floor and bottom of muffler before you know it,...you have to measure the distance between the floor and bottom of muffler I have a good hunch you will be jacking you bike back up after you install your wheels taking measurements and posting the result on the bad web! you will be measuring the distance between the floor and bottom of muffler

Good luck !!

PS: you are going to measure the distance between the floor and bottom of muffler and post the result here on BadWeb
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Etennuly
Posted on Thursday, March 31, 2011 - 11:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Lemme tell ya what I know about that!

I use an 8" cement block(there seems to be some of them everywhere) with a 1"(measures 3/4")board on top, slide this under one end or the other of the muffler for just enough ground clearance to remove that end's wheel.

Any hint there for ya?

Oh yeah.....this is for an '06 X, the XT will be lower.

(Message edited by etennuly on March 31, 2011)
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Trevd
Posted on Friday, April 01, 2011 - 09:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Xdigital, are you trying to tell me something?

I'll do my best to remember!

BUT, Etennuly makes a good point about the XT being different than the X. I have an XT, so my reduced suspension height will make a difference of about an inch compared to your X.
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Xdigitalx
Posted on Saturday, April 02, 2011 - 12:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

haha yea...

I didn't realize you had an XT,... but 1" is close enough to use, I can just add 2.5" to your height... and I should be fine.
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Xdigitalx
Posted on Saturday, April 02, 2011 - 01:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ok Etennuly, so 8" + 3/4" is what you use. I think I might want 2-3 more inches of height.
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Etennuly
Posted on Sunday, April 03, 2011 - 01:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You may go as high as you wish.

My approach is with the bike in tripod position. On the side stand - one tire - and the block with board. I did it this way for minimal lift to surpass suspension droop for removal a wheel.


I discovered this one day in my shop when all of the bike friendly jacking systems in my shop were in use and I needed to remove my rear wheel. It has worked for many folks who don't own a jack or have access to one. Nearly everyone can find a cement or wood block, even road side in an emergency situation.
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Trevd
Posted on Sunday, April 03, 2011 - 02:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

X,

I've taken my wheels off, even though the whole time I was doing it it was like I had this little voice in my head telling me to measure the distance between the floor and muffler... weird.

Anyway, once all was said and done, I had jacked the bike up 12 inches off the ground. I needed less than that to get the rear off (about 8" probably), but I had to jack it up a bit to get the front. I probably didn't have to go the full 12 inches, but it made it easier. I suspect the next time I take the front off I won't have to raise it as much now that I know how to do it.

Trevor
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Xdigitalx
Posted on Sunday, April 03, 2011 - 03:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

12" is a good height imo. Is it easier to replace the belt if your wheels are already off> (having new tires put on asap)

Etennuly, I tried the tripod thing and it works well. I still made my lift:


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I can make another, one for front and one for the rear but... not sure now. I have eye-hooks yet to be screwed into the ends to attach ratchet straps but it seems very stable...especially when the rear is lifted.
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Trevd
Posted on Sunday, April 03, 2011 - 04:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nice lift. The one that I would be worried about is a rocking effect when doing work on one end. While I was removing my front wheel today after having taken the rear one off already, I had to hold the front of the bike down with both hands while using my foot to loosen the axle. With your setup I'm not sure it wouldn't have toppled over.

I wonder if the way to go would be to build another one like you have, but a little shorter to allow you to easily slip it under the rear or front of the muffler as needed?
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Xdigitalx
Posted on Sunday, April 03, 2011 - 05:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

yea.. I am open for ideas, I have back probs so I am gonna let is sit and soak in my mind alittle before I attempt to build the 2nd one. I am sure others could come up with better system but I think this will do for me.
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Etennuly
Posted on Sunday, April 03, 2011 - 05:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It looks good to me.

A couple of little 2x4 wedges can go a long way as wheel chocks.

Trevd, I always break everything loose before lifting my bike. Then do the final torque when it is back on the ground.
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Trevd
Posted on Monday, April 04, 2011 - 08:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I always break everything loose before lifting my bike

As I was standing on my wrench trying to get the front axle loose, I was thinking that next time I will do exactly that!
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