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Lostartist
| Posted on Saturday, March 26, 2011 - 06:31 pm: |
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okay, trying to change mufflers, the axle seems to be stuck, does the bike have to be on a lift for the axle to turn out 15 turns? yes I loosened the pinch bolt, there's a little story there too but for now, help on getting the axle nut thing to turn, already broke a ratchet trying to get it loosened help! thinking about getting an air compressor and using some power tools |
D_adams
| Posted on Saturday, March 26, 2011 - 06:47 pm: |
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Ok, I missed something. _WHY_ are you loosening the axle to change the muffler? |
Lostartist
| Posted on Saturday, March 26, 2011 - 06:52 pm: |
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cause it says so in the book, I kinda thought that was odd too, it seems it's mainly to get the belt tensioner out of the way so you can get to the bolt on the rear clamp, cause it's way in there, but I'm wondering if I can't just get an extension or something to get a socket down in there without messing with the axle thing or the tensioner |
Greg_e
| Posted on Saturday, March 26, 2011 - 06:59 pm: |
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If the clamp is still on top, then you may need to remove the tensioner. That said a 1/4 drive with extensions and U joint may do the trick without messing with the tensioner. |
Lostartist
| Posted on Saturday, March 26, 2011 - 07:03 pm: |
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yeah the clamp is still on top, is there anyway to change that? |
Ducbsa
| Posted on Saturday, March 26, 2011 - 07:22 pm: |
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Sounds like an application of never-seize was missed. Once you get it out, you ought to follow the manual there and apply never-seize and the front axle (LH threads there), too. I reversed the rear muffler straps to have the threaded part on the left side of the bike last time I was there. (Message edited by ducbsa on March 26, 2011) |
D_adams
| Posted on Saturday, March 26, 2011 - 07:37 pm: |
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quote:That said a 1/4 drive with extensions and U joint may do the trick without messing with the tensioner.
That's the way I did it too. You have to take off the front pulley cover and the chin fairing, but that's about it. Once the clamps are off, just slide them around to the position you want them in. |
Lostartist
| Posted on Saturday, March 26, 2011 - 07:58 pm: |
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Wait, left hand threads? So I need to turn the other way? Not righty tighty lefty loosey? |
Rudy
| Posted on Saturday, March 26, 2011 - 08:44 pm: |
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The rear axle has normal threads. Turn the rear as you would normally to get it out. The FRONT axle has left hand threads. If I were you, I'd try to shoot some penetrating oil in there and then use a big honking breaker bar. I've got a 1/2" drive 18" long breaker bar for situations like this. If you could heat the swingarm while cooling the axle simultaneously, that would help, too. |
Paint_shaker
| Posted on Saturday, March 26, 2011 - 09:03 pm: |
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"That said a 1/4 drive with extensions and U joint may do the trick without messing with the tensioner." Yup. And; "I reversed the rear muffler straps to have the threaded part on the left side of the bike last time I was there." Yup |
Paint_shaker
| Posted on Saturday, March 26, 2011 - 09:04 pm: |
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Oh yeah, don't forget a little anti-seize on the axle before re-install. |
Iman501
| Posted on Sunday, March 27, 2011 - 02:50 am: |
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I hope some of this info will help! |
Lostartist
| Posted on Sunday, March 27, 2011 - 09:50 pm: |
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okay, got the muffler changed, just needed more leverage and proper tools, back to stock, changed to a stock ecm too, and the only thing that's just a bit worrisome is that it occasionally cuts out on me occasionally, usually at idle or in neutral, I haven't done a TPS reset or anything with the stock computer that's in there now, any ideas if that's all it needs? seems to run slower too, I do have a K&N air filter is that letting to much air in? I did something else stupid too, I stripped the threads in the hole for the pinch bolt, any suggestions on how to fix this? Heli Coil? can I retap it the same size? they are the top threads though, the pinch bolt still goes in but there's nothing on the top to tighten to. |
Greg_e
| Posted on Sunday, March 27, 2011 - 11:13 pm: |
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Which pinch bolt, the one on the axle? That would be bad and you should get a helicoil in there fast just to make sure the axle doesn't spin out (shouldn't but you never know). |
Lostartist
| Posted on Monday, March 28, 2011 - 12:46 am: |
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yup, that pinch bolt, will take care of it next weekend, won't ride until then. |
Greg_e
| Posted on Monday, March 28, 2011 - 01:13 am: |
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I forget since I haven't even looked at my cycle since November, does the bolt hole go all the way through the swingarm? If not drilling it for a helicoil is going to be impossible since the drill and helicoil are much larger than the bolt that goes in. |
Lostartist
| Posted on Monday, March 28, 2011 - 09:15 am: |
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if worse comes to worse I can replace the whole swing arm, how hard would that be? |
Iman501
| Posted on Monday, March 28, 2011 - 11:08 am: |
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i think you'd have a harder time finding a swing arm than actually having a hard time replacing it! lol (and an extra swing arm is something i dont have haha |
Iman501
| Posted on Monday, March 28, 2011 - 11:18 am: |
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ebay item # - 190516113403 i lied haha |
Lostartist
| Posted on Monday, March 28, 2011 - 12:07 pm: |
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before I go all crazy with buying swing arms, can't I re-tap the hole? or helicoil it? JB weld? what are my options? |
Wolfridgerider
| Posted on Monday, March 28, 2011 - 10:20 pm: |
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well I can't tell you how many miles I rode without a pinch bolt in the swing arm but it was a lot.... I wouldn't go getting your panties in to big of a bunch... You would need to ride backwards for a ton of miles to make the axle even think about backing out. It might over tighten its self... but I don't think you need to worry about it backing out |
Clrobins
| Posted on Tuesday, March 29, 2011 - 03:25 pm: |
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I agree, there are millions of bikes out there without pinch bolts in the swingarm. Tubers included. |
Lostartist
| Posted on Tuesday, March 29, 2011 - 07:48 pm: |
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cool, I'll re-tap it the best I can and check the torque on the axle once and awhile, and I think a TPS reset will take care of the rough idle/stalling problem, got a cable on the way hopefully with the program as well. |
Iman501
| Posted on Wednesday, March 30, 2011 - 01:55 am: |
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good to know, did you get the Cable/map package on ebay?.... I had read someplace that a few guys who bought the cable on ebay had some problems getting it to connect to the PC. Hopefully yours works good! if not I'll find the thread for you that described how they got it to work |
Lostartist
| Posted on Wednesday, March 30, 2011 - 02:18 pm: |
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I got it from: http://www.vtwintunerconnection.com/index.html hope I don't have too many problems with, going to use this as an excuse to wipe my old laptop clean and restore it, it's way cluttered up with crap and I barely use it, kinda wanna buy a netbook though too |
Lostartist
| Posted on Wednesday, March 30, 2011 - 08:13 pm: |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jfev2eMN3Ss&feature =player_embedded making me think twice about that pinch bolt |
Wolfridgerider
| Posted on Wednesday, March 30, 2011 - 08:28 pm: |
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no worries http://www.badweatherbikers.com/cgibin/discus/show .cgi?tpc=4062&post=2021849#POST2021849 |
Glitch
| Posted on Wednesday, March 30, 2011 - 10:32 pm: |
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At the beginning of Spring last year I got a new set of tires. At the end of Spring I needed a new set. When I was taking off the rear tire I noticed I hadn't replaced the pinch bolt. The rear axle was just as tight as it was with the bolt in place. |
Iman501
| Posted on Thursday, March 31, 2011 - 01:49 am: |
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http://www.buellxb.com/Buell-XB-Forum/Buell-Firebo lt-XB12-XB9/ecmspy-FAILED-TO-GET-COM-PORT--Arrrggg hhhhh here is the thread i was thinking of earlier and that video you posted with the rear tire coming off was part of motorcycleUSA's "create a caption wednesday" thing today! haha |
Firebolt020283
| Posted on Thursday, March 31, 2011 - 03:01 am: |
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umm I had no Idea there was a bolt there until I read this and then i looked in th part manual and I have had my wheel on and off since I have owned the bike but tomorrow I am going to go check if it is there or if it is just loose. (Message edited by firebolt020283 on March 31, 2011) |