| Author | Message | ||
     Matrim |
My primary gasket has been leaking so I plan to install the new metal/rubber gasket. Is there anything I should know before I try to take this on? Anything extra I'll need to get, any special tools, anything to look for while the case is off, etc? Thanks a lot!  | ||
| Hootowl |
If you've not updated your chain tensioner, now would be a good time. You may already have the new one, I don't remember when the change happened. | ||
| Fahren |
Order a spare shift shaft seal for a coupla bucks, just in case you mess up the existing one in removal/reassembly. Cheap insurance. | ||
| Rich |
What Fahren said. I always have one in my tool box. | ||
| Matrim |
How will I know if I need to update my chain tensioner? | ||
| Littlebuggles |
The metal plate will be quite thin, the old tensioners are prone to breaking. If it appears sturdy and solid you've got the new part. There are pictures here somewhere. (For comparison, my Y2K Cyclone came with the updated part, it was also a California model). You may want to replace it if it is deeply grooved as well. Maybe wrap some electrical tape around the teeth of the shift shaft before you pull the cover, it should help preserve your current seal. You've got a manual? Suggest checking your retainer clips and small springs and such on the shifter while you've got the cover off. | ||
| Kalali |
I think some folks had also suggested to cut out a cardboard template the shape of the cover/gasket and mark the holes to make sure you put the bolts in the same hole they came out from. | ||
| Buellistic |
Primary Gasket Installation Class 101, just PM me if you want a copy ... | ||
| Jramsey |
"How will I know if I need to update my chain tensioner?" On the early style the steel plate the plastic shoe fits on is about 1/8" thick, the updated one is slightly less than a 1/4". #39975-90A | ||
| Essmjay |
If you take off the cover, consider replacing the starter gasket at the same time while you are in there. | ||
| Littlebuggles |
Good point Ess, I wish I'd done that last time, or the time before, or the time before that that the primary cover was off. Mat, the sign that seal is leaking/weeping is the oil residue under the starter, and back of the base of the rear jug. Mine's been leaky for years and I keep forgetting to do it when I've got the primary drained. Side question, is that Matrim as in Cauthon? | ||
| Matrim |
Thanks for all the info guys I ordered a shift shaft seal when I bought the gasket. Littlebueggles: I do have a manual, just wondering if there were any random things I should look out for. And yes, it is Matrim as in Cauthon ESS: Thanks, I'll try to do that while I'm in there. My x1 is a 2000. Do any of you know what year the shoe was updated? If I need one I would like to order it before I get my bike apart so I could get it back together more speedily. (Message edited by matrim on March 18, 2011) | ||
| Jramsey |
>>>My x1 is a 2000. Do any of you know what year the shoe was updated? My '00 (build date 10/99) had the early style, they only cost about $23.00, money well spent IMO for piece of mind. | ||
| Littlebuggles |
2000 apparently had both the old and new, I've read others here having the old part in their Y2K models. I've still got a updated shifter in my bike parts box since my bike came with the new tensioner. I will eventually need to replace it as it wears so I've hung on to the part. Should be readily available at the HD shop. J, glad you posted approx measurements as I've not had time to pull up that pic. | ||
| Matrim |
I got all the parts in and started taking her apart today. I noticed this when I took out the bolts holding the chin fairing on on the left side of the bike.  I was wondering if this is just an accumulation of poorly applied loctite or some gasket I don't know about, or a broken bolt. Just didn't sit right with me. | ||
| Littlebuggles |
Bolt deosn't look broken, that stuff will prolly scrape off. The two bolts that are in the bottom back of the cover, where the updated shifter kit mounts, have tendency to try and come loose, and to collect fluids that seep from the bottom of the gasket. If I'm being un-clear I can post a pic, I've got a file here at work that will do. That looks like and attempt to seal it up to me. Clean the threads of those two bolts thoroughly before you re-assemble things. use a degreaser/brake parts cleaner or something of the sort and clean the threads with q-tips to make sure they're good. Maybe use some loctite blue to secure the bolts, don't use red though. | ||
| Bluzm2 |
I use a gun bore brush on those thread holes. Don't remember the cal off hand... That bolt had a rubber or plastic bushing on it if memory serves. Part of the chin fairing mounting stuff. It will chip off, it's just baked on.. | ||
| Matrim |
Thanks. Do you have a part number handy for the bushing? Do I need to remove the headers to change the starter gasket? Any advice for the job as a whole? Does this scrape on the top of my primary cover simply mean my chain isn't adjusted correctly?  My apologies for all the trivial questions; biggest job I've done on the bike is the rocker box gaskets.  | ||
| Matrim |
I also noticed this while I was in there; more curious than anything.  It looks like someone made two random drill taps. | ||
| Zenbiker |
That is how the rotor assembly was balanced. After the magnets were glued to the shell, they spun balanced it and drilled off the metal on the shell to get it into balance. Otherwise it would have shaken itself apart (yes, go figure, that motor could actually vibrate a little bit more). | ||
| Desertfox |
Undertightened chain will leave those marks in the primary. The marks you have there are really minor though. | ||
| Buellistic |
PRIMARY CHAIN ADJUSTMENT Class 101, just PM me if you want a copy ... | ||
| Bluzm2 |
Your going to have to pull the header to replace the starter gasket. Not enough room to get the starter pulled back far enough to clean both surfaces. | ||
| Hootowl |
I have removed my starter without removing the exhaust. It's tricky, but it can be done. It's a matter of rotating it just so. I think the battery has to come out if I remember correctly. | ||
| Buellistic |
PRIMARY COVER and TORQUE'ing Class 101, just PM me if you want a copy ... |
