| Author | Message | ||
     Bads1 |
I didn't know that scorpion made mufflers for Buell's.www.scorpion-exhausts.com | ||
| Crank |
Speaking of mufflers; can anyone make a recommendation for a slip on for a 2000 Cyclone? I am not interested in anything that is "stupid" loud as those days are long behind me. Thanks for your time and comments. | ||
| Kevyn |
That's a can of worms! Your first stop should be the Knowledge Vault. My personal "opinion" is to get the Buell race header and muffler; a proven design and combination. I personally have good results with a V&H, external disk SuperTrapp and an automotive SuperTrapp. Around here, asking which muffler/slip-on to get is like asking which oil is best or how much air to put in which type of tire(tyre). Have fun, ride safely. | ||
| Leeaw |
The Buell slip-on seemed to be better than the V&H I had on my 99 M2 if that helps any. You can djust the number of disks, which is a nice feature. It is not too loud but is a great upgrade. | ||
| Bads1 |
SuperTrapps internal disc,the same thing is a good system.I had V&H on my old bike it broke at the rear mount. | ||
| Steveford |
I really like the Wileyco on my X1. All stainless, lifetime guarantee, great sound. | ||
| Lake_bueller |
I have both a V&H and SuperTrapp (one on each bike). Personally, I can't really tell the difference in performance. The revised SuperTrapp seems steardier than the V&H. If you have the means, I'd probably go with the Buell system (header and muffler). Then add a Mikuni 42mm flatslide carb for some real h.p. increases. Just my hubble opinion  | ||
| Mbsween |
Crank, I have the White Brother E-series. Cheap (around 240.00) Reliable (I have it on my X1 for 13000 miles) , and tuneable, similar to the supertrapp. And its not real loud until your past 4000 rpm. You need to work a little to get it on properly, but then its dead nuts reliable. There's a bunch of post in the KV on it, and you can see it on my web site Matt's X1 Good luck Matt | ||
| Thunderbox |
I like my Wileyco. Been on for about 10000kms now and no problems. Lifetime guarentee too. | ||
| Ftd |
Ditto Thunderbox. I have a Wileyco on my X1. No quality issues (~6500 mi.), sounds good, engine performance is fine. And a lifetime guarantee is an added bonus. | ||
| Uwgriz |
If you don't want stupid loud, by all means steer clear of the D&D. I love mine, power, sound and built to last, but it is pretty loud. My slip on is louder than many full systems. | ||
| Werewulf |
most of the mufflers i have seen, have been pretty straight foward. i have the race pipe on my m-2. the muffler is kind of big and funky looking. has anyone with this system put a straight pipe and baffle in place of the can. i wouldnt think with a 6 inch piece of pipe to hold the baffle, that you would not need the rear mount, as no weight to speak of. i have been thinking of doing just that, but im sure its been done already. any pros or cons? | ||
| Crank |
Good sounding, high quality, lifetime guarantee, I'm pointed toward the Wileyco.Thanks to everyone for your experiences and opinions. Crank | ||
| Thunderbox |
You will be very happy with the Wileyco Crank. Good choice for a great clip on. They also say no need to rejet with the Wileyco and I did main and pilot but changed my main back to the stock one not long after. Enjoy | ||
| Duck |
Wiley Co was the first one I tried on my 00M2. First one broke after 10K. The bracket snapped while I was up in NH for the Jay Hawley benefit. Luckily the shop had a Wiley Co and swapped mine for theirs. 700 miles later the next day that one snapped. Same place--at the front bracket on the elbow. Sent it back to Wiley Co and they sent me a carbon fiber can because they didn't have a replacement in stock. Put that on and the bracket snapped within another 10K. Just had it welded because I was sick of dealing with it. Ordered the Buell slip on. While waiting the rivets on the carbon pipe vibrated through and the end cap came off while riding. :>  That was interesting. The Buell slip on was great. Never any problems. Got a great deal on a race header and added a D&D race can to it. I love the D&D, but it is loud. | ||
| Thunderbox |
Hey Duck I can see that happening. I believe they changed the frt muffler mount on the Buells because they were causing the brackets to break. The one I have on the 2002 M2 is a modified one. I have also heard that a bracket problem was quite common with everyones muffler until the bracket was updated. | ||
| Mikej |
Had a gasket leak where the header flange bolts up to the leading face of the muffler. After several gasket replacements I fab'd up a gasket from copper or brass sheet and sealed it with CopperCoat stuff. Apart from that it seems to work fine. To check for a leak check the underside of the front of your primary cover right above the mount-face location. If you ever open it up to replace the packing material then bolt the face plate to the header plate flange before installing the pop rivets to help ensure a flatter mating surface which may help gasket life. I also had one of the welded-on nuts come loose inside the muffler that the flange bolts to, which is why I had to open mine up. Rewelded it, discolored the chrome plating a little, otherwise all is better now. | ||
| Duck |
Makes sense. Thanks for the update. Obviously I wasn't following their product anymore after I switched. I will say this. Their Customer Service was first rate. They emailed me directly after reading a complaint of mine on the ATC website. Just one example. I just grew tired of dealing with it. I actually still have the broken remnants of the last system sitting in my "been there, done that" Buell box. | ||
| Bomber |
I'd be interested to hear if Wileyco is still in the tuber can buusiness . . . . I thought someone on the board found that they no longer made them . . . .I'm so pleased with my (carbon-fiber), that I'd buy another, if I could, whjen this one goes south eventually | ||
| Thunderbox |
Yes Wileyco still makes mufflers for the Tubers. They are available in stainless, titanium and carbon fiber. They also make them for the new machines to. Check them out on www.wileyco-racing.com they have a dyno report on the xb9. | ||
| Thunderbox |
Hey Bomber, you don't have to buy another as the carbon fiber ones are also guaranteed for life. I believe that Wileyco is the only manufactureer to lifetime warranty the carbon fiber cans. | ||
| Bomber |
yessir, you're right . . .. .from a practical viewpoint though, if it goes south in the middle of July, I ain't waiting til november for a replacement to come through . . .. . it's a great product for me, just the right amount of noise (more than stock, not crazy loud), the right tone (going through a tunnel last week by the Gap, it sounded like a P-47 strafing a train!), looks good, and has held up for about 12K mikes by now . . . . . | ||
| Bads1 |
Bomber if it goes South in July you buy yourself a new one and send the old one in for replacement.When you get the new one back sell it and recoop money lost if not all at least some.  | ||
| Bomber |
just exactly my plan (along with aquiring some more C-F for the Ma Deuece this winter) my last week at the Gap etc with Grounder reminded me why I love that bike so much . . . .I ain't NEVER parting with it! | ||
| Thunderbox |
Hey guys I have some real good news. As long as you sent in your warranty card when you bought the exhaust from Wileyco you would get a replacement in no more than 4 days. I know this for sure because I sell them here in Canada. I get any order in 2 Days working direct from Italy. I have been very pleased with there delivery times. | ||
| Steveford |
Put my 02 X1W on the Dyno today (race ECM, Buell Pro Series air cleaner, Wileyco stainless cannister) and got an even 80 HP at the rear wheel. Similar S3T but with the Buell race exhaust (headers and cannister) did 86 HP yesterday. I still like the Wileyco but it kind of sucks not being able to beat a customer whose bike is in for new piston rings! We have a really old Dyno, though, so will do some runs on a newer one and see if our readings are accurate. | ||
| Ray_maines |
That's just too funny! I didn't save all of that stuff, but I understand just exactly what you're talking about. The breadbox, a few muffler brackets, turn signals, broken belts, a couple of breather bolt gizmos, broken header bolts, a half dozen empty tubes of LocTite Blue. How about a couple one gallon milk or bleach bottles that you've tried to cut and use to keep the oil from your oil filter from dumping all over the voltage regulator, exhaust header, front of your bike and the garage floor? Only to be run over by at least one of your tires and soil at least one knee of your favorite jeans. I've still got two chunks of a license plate that stayed bolted to the bike when the plate broke and fell off. The lady at the Dept. of Licensing laughed when she noticed the plate had been on a Buell. | ||
| Bomber |
I've got a been there done that box too! I just didn't know it! the only thing about the wileyco that confuses me is the inlet pipe necking down in diameter . .. .can't help the top end, but may bosst midrange (?) . . . can anyone shed some light on that? | ||
| Werewulf |
im still trying to get some feed back on the homemade muffler thing. since i already have a race pipe on my m-2, it would seem to me that if i added about a 6 inch piece of tubing and put a baffle in it, that it should perform as good as the race muffler, with out all the bulk. my real question, is weather or not the front muffler hanger is strong enough to support things. i cant see that much weight would be on it. as far as loud goes, it shouldnt be any louder than some of the v&h pipes on the harleys. all they are is a pipe with a baffle, nothing high tech. im sure someone must have tried something like this in the past, i cant find anything in the search engine. | ||
| Josh_ |
You need a strap in the back to hang it from - don't depend on the front clamp to keep it on. You might also get a short/straight "cherry bomb" muffler that's about 19" long, 2.5" in and out and 4" dia body. Carquest (among others I'm sure) carried a muffler clamp that should work with the "Z" bracket. | ||
| Hootowl |
Werewulf, If your M2's engine is stock, you're not going to gain much from aftermarket pipes except noise. The stock can works well with the cams in the M2. $.02 Jeff | ||
| Werewulf |
my m-2 is stock, except for the race kit. it runs exceptionally well for a bike with minor mods. it is much stronger than my x-1 was. my main interest is customizing. the race muffler is pretty primative looking and i wanted a different look. not much available in the aftermarket and i was thinking of building my own, like i did on my v-rod. | ||
| Bluzm2 |
Mr Wulf.. Post a note for Al Lighton either here or on SacBorg. He had Stainless Steel Specialties in Fl make him a straight through 2 1/2" muffler to replace the race can. It winds up looking just like a regular Daytona Boss pipe (they are no longer available) without the curved inlet pipe. They sound really good and perform well. Brad |
