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Bigsherm9r
Posted on Tuesday, October 14, 2003 - 02:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Finally! Does anyone have a reason these aren't a good idea? Seem simple enough to make the mounts at home and get the sliders from the local shop. Why didn't I think of this?

View them here-
http://www.satoracing.com/xb9rframeslider.htm

I've been afraid something would happen to all my hard work here-
too vulnerable
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Martin
Posted on Tuesday, October 14, 2003 - 02:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Polished frame is a work of art!
Has it altered running temperatures?
I get the impression (or, more significantly, parts of my body do) that the frame is part of the cooling system
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Stoobr2
Posted on Tuesday, October 14, 2003 - 02:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Wow that frame looks awsome,I was planning the same treatment to my 9s frame & swinging-arm this winter,but unfortunatly I got wiped out a few weeks back and alas the r/hand side of the frame took most of the impact !

I reckon the crash bungs would of saved the frame,a good investment for XB owners.
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Bigsherm9r
Posted on Tuesday, October 14, 2003 - 03:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Stoobr2-

Take the opportunity when getting your frame replaced to polish it and the swingarm before they're installed on the bike, not that that's what happened to me, um, ahem, cough, uh, yeah, honest!

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Dynarider
Posted on Tuesday, October 14, 2003 - 07:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Just by looking at the mounts on those sliders they look kinda cheezy. Small bolts & with the long length of that slider there is bound to be a lot of leverage there.

Granted anything is better than bouncing your frame/tank off the ground, but I just dont know if those would actually work or if they would cause more damage by screwing up the frame where they are attached.
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Daves
Posted on Tuesday, October 14, 2003 - 08:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That's what I was thinking Dyna. I don't think there is any way those will work,help in a crash over parking lot speeds. Looks like you'll end up breaking the tabs off the frame to me. I also don't think it's a good idea to take off or cut a hole in the air scoop.


Ride to the edge!
Dave
Iowa HD/Buell (Buell Cycle Center)
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Glitch
Posted on Tuesday, October 14, 2003 - 08:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

damage by screwing up the frame where they are attached
If you look at the bike where these are attached, they look as though they would just break off the tab they are bolted to, or as Dyna pointed out, the small bolts may just bend or break. I hate to see wrecked bikes, but I'd like to see how these hold up.
For just a hundred dollars more you could get the carbon fiber from Daves...
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Glitch
Posted on Tuesday, October 14, 2003 - 08:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

you could get the carbon fiber

OOoopps...sorry, you need the frame to show...
Duh...my bad...
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Buckinfubba
Posted on Tuesday, October 14, 2003 - 09:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

God dang Dynas right!!!!!

those would just brake more stuff. I am sitting herer staring at the bike and it is saying to me in low painful whisper. No not that and please don't take my airscoop away.
heck I have got used to my dent in my frame. It makes it a custom frame in my eyes.
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Leeaw
Posted on Tuesday, October 14, 2003 - 10:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I will be calling Dave for some carbon fiber covers way before I would put those things on.

They have that Rube Goldberg look.
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Dynarider
Posted on Tuesday, October 14, 2003 - 04:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Come on now, who wants to be a guinea pig & get a set of those? Drop the bike & let us all know the extent of the damage:D

Im sure there is a way that bolton sliders can be utilized for the XB's, but thats not it.
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Captainplanet
Posted on Tuesday, October 14, 2003 - 04:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Has anyone been down with any of the currently available frame sliders?
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Usapitbullz
Posted on Tuesday, October 14, 2003 - 05:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I think the Carbon Fiber frame protectors are the way to go. I will probably get a set this winter, for next seasons track days.



L8R, JM
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Skully
Posted on Tuesday, October 14, 2003 - 06:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have to agree. The sliders from satoracing look like they might do more damage than they save. The carbon fiber covers for the frame are the best I've seen to date. I have not seen a bike that has crashed with them though.

Keith
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Leeaw
Posted on Tuesday, October 14, 2003 - 08:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The real question is whether it is better to get the carbon fiber covers before or after a crash.

You think Daves can pull through and test it out?
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Coolice
Posted on Tuesday, October 14, 2003 - 09:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Doesn't Force racing? from UK make some frame protectors? I think Daves has them available to him.
GO CUBS!!!
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Daves
Posted on Wednesday, October 15, 2003 - 08:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yup, got a couple sets of those coming with the next order.


Ride to the edge!
Dave
Iowa HD/Buell (Buell Cycle Center)
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Hippo888
Posted on Saturday, October 18, 2003 - 11:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I just went down on my XB9S. Strangely enough, the frame wasn't scratched at all. The steering was at opposite lock (turned all the way left while the bike was sliding down the road on its right side).

The parts that touched the ground were the handlbar (bent), the swing-arm (rash on the axle too), the rear cylinder exhaust header (dented in and scraped) and the front & rear brake lever.

I was just wondering if the 'S' models fair better/worse (than the 'R' models) when laid down because the wider 'S' bars keep the frame off the ground? Anyone have any observations/experiences? Maybe if my bars had been turned the other way (towards the side that hit the pavement) I would have faired worse.

Paul in MI
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Spike
Posted on Sunday, October 19, 2003 - 07:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Paul,

I think it's luck of the draw. We had the owner's grandson lowside our XB9R demo at ~60mph with zero frame damage. On the other hand a certain person I know dropped a certain XB9S while pulling out of his driveway and managed to bend the handlebars and scratch the frame. Basically, if your handlebars stay in place you should be fine.

Maybe stronger handlebars could function as makeshift framesliders?

Mike Luddy, Jr.
'04 XB12R (hopefully won't need sliders)
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Hippo888
Posted on Sunday, October 19, 2003 - 09:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Spike,

That's a great idea! Maybe something like longer and stronger and more solidly mounted bar end weights could be used to take the brunt of falling over.

Paul in MI
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Trojan
Posted on Monday, October 20, 2003 - 10:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Why not have the best of both worlds? Bolt on carbon/kevlar frame protectors with built in nylon crash pads and integral scoops. They still allow the polished or painted frame to show through.

Available from Trojan-Horse via DaveS at Iowa.left fitting inc scoopright side fitting
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