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Scottorious
| Posted on Thursday, February 17, 2011 - 05:16 pm: |
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Ok so people have insulated their tank in the past. I think I plan on removing my frame to check my valves as well as painting and insulating the frame. Anyone have any real good things to say about the frame insulation. Or has everyones adhesive started to fail and its starting to fall out? |
1_mike
| Posted on Thursday, February 17, 2011 - 05:56 pm: |
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Mine is still intact. It's been about 11,000 miles since I put it on. I also sealed the edges with hardware store aluminum (HVAC) tape to keep "stuff" out of the open edges of the insulation. Mike |
Puzzled
| Posted on Thursday, February 17, 2011 - 06:41 pm: |
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I received my product of choice this week so I decided to give it a shot and insulate the frame in an attempt to cut down on the heat transferred to the frame from the motor. I used the 3/16 material from DEI rated to 1750 degrees. While it claims to be 3/16 of an inch thick I don't think so. The entire piece I ordered 21"x24" weighed in at 1 pound exactly. I used about half of the sheet adding a half pound to the bike. While cutting the material for the frame I traced the patten onto cardboard so I have a template to cut pieces for my street bike. I'm a little curious if I'll be able to install it with the motor in place. If not I'll wait until it is valve adjustment time.
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Puzzled
| Posted on Thursday, February 17, 2011 - 06:42 pm: |
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Cleaned the frame to insure proper adhesion.
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Puzzled
| Posted on Thursday, February 17, 2011 - 06:43 pm: |
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Marking my cut lines.I originally started out using a razor knife to cut the material and later discover a good ol' pair of scissors worked better.
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Puzzled
| Posted on Thursday, February 17, 2011 - 06:44 pm: |
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The material is self adhesive and while it sticks fast fairly decent there is a little ability to manipulate it to where you need it.
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Puzzled
| Posted on Thursday, February 17, 2011 - 06:44 pm: |
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My templates with the "reversions".
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Rex
| Posted on Thursday, February 17, 2011 - 07:19 pm: |
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Would be curious to see what the temps are with this on the inside. |
Theeman23_69
| Posted on Friday, February 18, 2011 - 01:04 am: |
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any way you could post your template. I plan on doing this and it would be a lot easier if there were a template. Of course if you can't I understand, though I can digitize it if you think that would be preferable. |
Swoop
| Posted on Friday, February 18, 2011 - 04:15 am: |
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Is there a way to do it with out taking the motor completely out? |
Avalaugh
| Posted on Friday, February 18, 2011 - 01:22 pm: |
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Yes, i have read a thread where they removed airbox and throttle bodies, this creates alot more room, and by using a thin piece of wood of sorts you can press the heat proofing on. |
Tippster
| Posted on Friday, February 18, 2011 - 02:34 pm: |
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Would that tunnel shield work well for re-lining the Right Fairing Lower? Mine is beaten to hell... |
Puzzled
| Posted on Friday, February 18, 2011 - 06:57 pm: |
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If you have the room the Tunnel Shild would work well. If space is a premium than the Reflect-A-Cool would be a better choice. http://www.designengineering.com/category/catalog/ dei-cycle/insulating-materials/reflect-cool
quote:Reflect-A-Cool -------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ $10.67SKU: 010460 Reflect-A-Cool, constructed of fiberglass material backed with a layer of aluminized reflective foil to handle direct continuous temperature of 400°F has many uses such as covering firewalls, marine engine compartments, RVs, in the tub of a racecar where typical mechanical fasteners cannot be used and has many industrial uses. Reflect-A-Cool can be trimmed to fit just about any shape. Just measure, trim, face reflective side towards source of radiant heat and remove self-adhesive backing. It’s that easy. Withstands 2000°F of radiant heat Self adhesive for easy installation Can be easily trimmed to size Virtually NO clearance needed
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Zacks
| Posted on Friday, February 18, 2011 - 08:31 pm: |
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ok, this is begging to be asked: Puzzled, what the hell happened to that front tire!? |
Puzzled
| Posted on Friday, February 18, 2011 - 08:40 pm: |
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Good question, the bike in its previous life was a track day/road race bike. |
Jdugger
| Posted on Friday, February 18, 2011 - 10:08 pm: |
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> Puzzled, what the hell happened to that front tire!? That's normal for track day tires. When you pit-in, your tires are hot and sticky and will pick up bits of rubber left by other vehicles, often cars from the last session. They come off in a corner or two as soon as you are back up to speed... |
Luisemilio25r
| Posted on Friday, February 18, 2011 - 10:14 pm: |
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CHECK THIS LINK: http://s716.photobucket.com/albums/ww170/luisemili o33/ |
1_mike
| Posted on Saturday, February 19, 2011 - 11:52 am: |
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Puzzled - Interesting. I didn't put any insulation on the front of the frame, where the air intake goes...for two reasons. 1. If you use the stock air intake (snorkel), you will have to remove your insulation because the snorkle fits "very" tight to the front of the frame. Even my thinner insul. wouldn't work. 2. The front of the frame is insulated by...the snorkel... Isn't much heat gonna get past..around the air intake tube. Another question - Did you wrap the lower crossover at the back of the frame ? 1. The last place you want excess heat because of the fuel pump being right there and the closest to the injectors. 2. The rear header is fairly close to this part of the frame. Seems you want it as insulated as you can get it. I made a coupla pieces to cover this area as cleanly as I could. Just a thought... Mike |
Dannybuell
| Posted on Saturday, February 19, 2011 - 12:27 pm: |
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Zacks - those are track boogers ! Years ago I was an SCCA track worker. In those days at PIR track workers drove on the track to 'their' camping/parking area. Cars really pick up those boogers, covered the whole tire. my tread reappeared after a week or so. |
Zacks
| Posted on Saturday, February 19, 2011 - 09:22 pm: |
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Live and learn. I thought the tire had been blistered. I've seen the marbles on the outside of the corners - never realized there was snot on the track. Makes sense... |
Curve_carver
| Posted on Saturday, February 19, 2011 - 10:01 pm: |
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Way to tackle it Puzzled. LOOKS GOOD I noticed your bike has those traction grip pads on the frame in the 7th picture you posted. IDK what the rubber material is or called but where can I purchase them at? Do you think those rubber pads will also help the heat from burning my legs? ~Paul |