| Author | Message | ||
     Fast1075 |
I am old for sure...I thought traction control was in the right wrist  . | ||
| Kaotikevo |
Saw this article yesterday after a funeral, and it made my friggin day!!! SPEECHLESS. Erik Buell Racing has done us all proud as hell, he just walked up to hd's doorstep , pulled out his D*** and said GAME ON!!! This article keeps givin me goosebumps. | ||
| Freezerburn840 |
Impressive Erik!  | ||
| Curve_carver |
Wow that bike is completely awesome. I just wonder how much it would've costed if harley-davidson built it. I think we should all be greatful harley davidson built our bikes and put a price tag on it that can be obtainable by the average joe the plumber. | ||
| Court |
I just spit coffee on the screen . . . .I've printed that and taped it on the wall. | ||
| Jules |
I think we should all be greatful harley davidson built our bikes and put a price tag on it that can be obtainable by the average joe the plumber. Errr - Bollocks. Or to put that another way, I respectfully disagree.. | ||
| Crackhead |
I think a Tommy Lee reference needs to be added. | ||
| Hybridmomentspass |
jules - it is partially true. Their buying power helped lower the cost. Regardless - this bike rules. I really wish I could buy two of them. One for riding, one for collecting. At present I can not afford two. Or one. | ||
| 03fatboy |
That is amazing! Congrats to Erik Buell Racing and looking forward to the common folk model so I can have another bike in the garage. | ||
| Jules |
Oh I know it's at least partially true that their size helped drive the economies of scale needed to make them cheap.. It's the "being grateful" bit I disagree with!  | ||
| Drawkward |
Court, if Erik Buell Racing is NOW in the business of selling race bikes, count me out. I want to be able to purchase a $10-12$k Buell in the future. If they have no plans for that then I'm no longer as big a supporter as I once was, to be honest. I don't think that's the case though. I think that's just you puffing up your chest at anyone who has a negative comment or opinion about the new bike...which is what you always do. This "new" motorcycle is absolutely gorgeous and deserving of its $40k price tag. But I sincerely hope it's just a segue into the general consumer market. I genuinely want to own a new Erik Buell Racing bike and not have to refinance my house...and if I can't, at least I still have my 1125R | ||
| Court |
>>>Oh I know it's at least partially true that their size helped drive the economies of scale needed to make them cheap.. The operative word being "partially". Just think if Buell had teamed up with Honda, who makes more motorcycles in a day than Harley-Davidson does in a year, and we could have bought Buells for $19.54. | ||
| Drawkward |
One more thing...if anyone knows where I can get that cooling scoop for the front caliper, let me know!!! | ||
| Buellmojo |
This is a nice looking motorcycle. I cannot share the same excitement as others, but I do like what Erik and Crew has done. This is real close to what I was expecting the motorcycle to look like, not exact, but real close. Maybe this is why the lack of excitement exists with me, plus if the price speculation is correct (40K +/-), no street duty motorcycle is worth that dollar amount in my opinion, affordable or not...And yes, the 1190RS is/was built to be used on the street, and supposedly will be marketed as such, as the 1125 "Erik Buell Racing Race ECM" was/is intended...LOL! | ||
| Reepicheep |
Lots of different threads going on now Drawkward, it can get confusing. It's VERY clear that this is the bike that can be built by a 10 person shop and that can get Erik Buell Racing in AMA Superbike this year with a no holds barred no excuses quit your whining motorcycle. It will be competitively priced with all the other bikes on the grid... if you think that GSXR-1000 out there is a $10k special right from the dealer, I have a bridge in New York to sell you... That's plan A. Other sources that are in the know have made it clear that "the next bike" is already being worked, and that it will be a more affordable vehicle. Step one is to show up and kick ass. Looks like Erik Buell Racing is absolutely on track to do that. I have no doubt that I'll be cheering for Geoff on a podium *this* year. | ||
| Vagelis46 |
If the 1190RS platform proves to be competitive or start winning races against IL4s and Ducs, then the $40.000 is a bargain. How much would it cost to bring a Jap IL4 to the 1190RS spec with magnesium wheels, Ohlins suspension, engine work etc, etc ??? Is a Bimota more worth it ??? Bimota will not race anywhere in the world. Or is a MV Agusta that blows up in every race weekend more worth its price tag ??? This bike is very relevant to all Buell owners, despite its price that makes it impossible to buy for most of us. It brings excitement, and possibly racing success. This costs more that $40.000 | ||
| Drawkward |
Reepie: That "next bike" is the one I'll get REALLY excited about. Until then, I'll just be watching a super expensive motorcycle brand in AMA, hopefully on the podium. | ||
| Fresnobuell |
I see underslung exhaust, fuel in frame, perimeter brake on the front end--anyone know if Erik Buell Racing has made a deal with HD for this intellectual property or if EBs intimate knowledge of the patents allowed him to circumvent any kind of infringement? I guess my point is if its the former, EB might not be able to whip it out and piss on HD like we all would love. If it's the latter, EB is more of a genius as this would allow much easier transition to a future merging with..........Bombadier! And affordable streetbikes for public consumption. Didn't HD kill the two offers from Bombadier? If Erik Buell Racing has truly cut ties with HD, then what would stop this momentum now? Court? | ||
| Fresnobuell |
It brings excitement Here and elsewhere. Really, how often does the motorcycle world get to see a new creation such as this from a shop of 10 people. Amazing! Hopefully people will realize what an accomplishment this is--regardless if they are Buell fans or not. | ||
| Froggy |
All technologies that are not patented by HD/Buell. Erik wasn't the first to do any of the above, and won't be the last. | ||
| Froggy |
Teaming up with Bomberaider isn't as great of a decision that many are thinking. What if they start pouring in tons of money, then they start trying to throw their weight around? They wouldn't be much better than Harley in the long term. | ||
| Blake |
How much did the RW750 sell for? The blind impatience exhibited by some is bewildering. The failure to grasp the vital need for a competent sport bike business model, a plan for success is bizarre. "I wan' my cheap bike now!" What the? If Erik could poo solid gold bricks into our laps, some people would whine about it. Sometimes its just best to be quite. Curve Carver, >>> I think we should all be greatful harley davidson built our bikes and put a price tag on it that can be obtainable by the average joe the plumber. To the good folks at Harley who first brought Erik on board and shared his desire to engage the sport bike market head-on, I agree. They are mostly gone from H-D, have been for some time. To the succeeding dim bulbs at H-D who imposed a heritage cruiser marketing model upon Buell, no friggin' way! They are incompetents of unprecedented magnitude and some acted out of pure spite and miserableness toward Buell. I may pray for 'em, but I will not thank them. HMP, >>> Their buying power helped lower the cost. You might want to consider how many engines and at what cost HDMC sold to Buell. HDMC would quote a new engine, the Blast and XB platforms for instance, and then completely blow the budget leaving Buell with a grossly overpriced engine that blew their marketing strategy out the window. My sense it that if what was perpetrated by HDMC wrt to Buell occurred in the open market, people would likely go to prison over it. I've seen it too many times among corporate rivals, even among inter divisional groups. It destroys companies. It destroyed Buell Motorcycle Company. Let this be the end of that topic diversion. DrAwk, >>> if Erik Buell Racing is NOW in the business of selling race bikes, count me out. He's barely in business at all at present. If by race bikes, you mean repli-racer street bikes. I guess you'll be sitting out for a while, but have patience. And hey, weren't you the guy recently running a track day with your 1125R pitted next to my good friends Kieth and Steve? >>> I want to be able to purchase a $10-12$k Buell in the future. If they have no plans for that then I'm no longer as big a supporter as I once was, to be honest. You'll be happy to now that your concerns are unwarranted. See the various interviews posted and linked to in the "Buell News" topic here. The future is bright! But it is the future. We'll have to wait a bit for it to catch up with our enthusasm. Buellmojo, >>> the 1190RS is/was built to be used on the street Dead wrong. The Buell 1190RS was built to obtain homologation approval for racing in AMA Superbike. As such it must meet mandaotry government requirements for street bikes, but it is a racing machine, just as a Ducati 1198R is a racing machine. Yes, they are "street bikes", but without racing, they would not exist. | ||
| Blake |
From the very article that prompted this thread... "...be assured that Erik Buell doesn’t plan on being in just the boutique sport bike business; he intends to follow these $40,000-plus machines with more affordable versions." | ||
| Clk92vette |
Court: I am not sure what your point was exactly about a Honda owned Buell costing the melodramatic price of $19.54. In 2008 the CBR1000 msrp was $11,599 while the 1125R was $11,995. As far as I am concerned these two bikes are contemporary rivals and given the choice of either I would take the 1125R. And though I have no intention of dropping $40k on anyone's motorcycle, let's not forget that Erik's first "mass produced" Buell was the RR1000 Battletwin which had an msrp of $12,495 in 1986. That equates to about $25k in today's dollars which is still quite a bit shy of $40k. But it is a start, and I am very hopeful that with time will come less expensive offerings. If not I will just have to ride my R until my riding days are over which I am quite sure will still keep me grinning over the next 20 years! | ||
| Fresnobuell |
All technologies that are not patented by HD/Buell. Erik wasn't the first to do any of the above, and won't be the last. If this is the case, what are some examples of the critical Buell-created intellectual property HD owns? What if they start pouring in tons of money, then they start trying to throw their weight around? I think this go around EB will protect himeself from this going into the deal. He was in a much difference position when he sold his soul to HD. As far as I can tell BRP is a much different company. It showed alot to go after the Rotax platform not once but twice when the shit hit the fan. I venture to say if we ever hope to throw a leg over another Buell creation, Erik Buell Racing will have to get involved with a large corporation. | ||
| Elvis |
What Harley never seemed to understand (until it was too late) was that if they had made 1000 of these bikes at $40,000 each, they could have sold 50,000. . . or 100,000 Uly's, 1125R's, XB12's etc. and nobody would have turned their noses up at those bikes because they would have just been variations on that fire-breathing superbike. Now it's too late to go back and Erik Buell Racing couldn't make and sell 50,000 bikes if the market was screaming for them because they don't have the manufacturing facilities or distribution network to handle that. So they'll have to build back slowly and I have no doubt EB would like to be making inexpensive sport tourers, standards etc. This is the first step. I probably can't afford one either, so I'll just go to the local races, buy T-shirts and hoodies from Rat-Pak, fill all my vehicles with AMSOIL and watch SPEED-TV every race weekend until they've got something I can afford. | ||
| Drawkward |
Blake, I don't like quoting myself but... DrAwkwArD:
I also didn't say "repli-racer" either. If the R1 is considered a "repli-racer" and EB R will be building motorcycles like that then count me IN...all the way IN! I understand that this was the move that EB R indeed needed to make. Building an expensive street legal AMA bike to compete and get their name out there...and I am excited about it. But like I said, I'll be even more excited when I can purchase one without selling one of my kidneys, or a part of my liver (I don't drink alcohol, so my liver should be a good candidate). And yes, I was pitted next to Keith (who is a great guy, glad to have met him) and Steve (who I met last year and helped me out a lot, now operating Fastline, the TD Org I prefer). And yes I do have my Buell on the track...and I always brag about it, because I'm very PROUD of it (not the brakes though). I'm a Buell fan for life, but I'm certainly not blind. I can happily critique everything they've done with my own ideas and still be a fan... I won't be on the 1125R as much this season though. It is mentally holding me back...I don't want to wreck it and I know if I ride to my potential, a wreck is a real possibility. I'd rather wreck the mint 99 CBR I just bought for 600 bucks. I'd want to uncontrollably sob if I wrecked my 1125R. (Message edited by drawkward on February 18, 2011) | ||
| Davegess |
This is the first step Actually this is step six. Much pain was incurred while taking these steps but the really painful part was how steps one, two and five ended. Steps seven to ten are going to be even more exciting than step six and hopefully much less painful than those first six. | ||
| D_adams |
I got one for Christmas, I'm pretty sure my kid paid $11.95 for it. | ||
| Geedee |
The operative word being "partially". Just think if Buell had teamed up with Honda, who makes more motorcycles in a day than Harley-Davidson does in a year, and we could have bought Buells for $19.54. You crack me up Court  |
